Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: What does Rick have up his sleave?

  1. #1
    Wasting Light Hicks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    52,585
    Mood

    Default What does Rick have up his sleave?

    It sure sounds like he's cooked up something different to throw at the Pistons.

    http://www.indystar.com/articles/5/151216-6395-179.html

    Carlisle coy about Game 6 strategy

    Associated Press
    May 31, 2004


    AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- Judging by the way he dodged specific questions today, Rick Carlisle could have a surprise up his sleeve for Game 6 of the Eastern Conference finals.

    "I'm not going to talk about lineups, matchups or anything like that," Carlisle said on the eve of the Indiana' Pacers biggest game of the season.

    Carlisle's surprise, if he has one, likely would involve finding a way to defend Richard Hamilton, whose 33-point outburst in Game 5 gave control of the best-of-seven series to the Detroit Pistons.

    Indiana has had some success when Ron Artest has been the main defender against Hamilton, although Reggie Miller has started each game with that assignment.

    And while Artest has been lobbying publicly to take over as the primary Hamilton-stopper, Carlisle feels Artest is equally or more effective as a weak side defender against Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace.

    "Any move you make like that is going to have an impact somewhere else in the game," Carlisle said. "We've got to figure out the right percentages and where to put people in those situations."

    Artest missed practice today because of a migraine headache, and Jermaine O'Neal (knee) and Jamaal Tinsley (leg injuries) were listed as game-time decisions.

    O'Neal declined to speak to the media, and thus did not clear up the confusion over whether his injured left knee was drained of fluid. The Pacers coaching staff said it was drained Sunday afternoon, although O'Neal claimed it wasn't.

    Miller also left practice without speaking to reporters, thereby offering no insight into what he feels would work best against Hamilton, who is averaging 24.2 points in the series.

    Many of the other Pacers expressed disappointment -- some even said it was embarrassing -- to let the Pistons come into their building and take control of the series.

    Indiana has to win Game 6 on the road, then win Game 7 at home, in order to become just the eighth team in NBA history to come back from a 3-2 deficit.

    "Knowing that we beat them in that building twice this year, there's no reason we can't do it again," said Austin Croshere, who was 0-for-7 from the field in Game 5 after being the difference-maker in Game 4. "I think we need to bring the energy that we had in Game 4 and find a way to slow Richard Hamilton down.

    "How do you do that?" Croshere continued, "maybe it's with energy, maybe it's with throwing more bodies at him. Obviously it's important to do it early, because when he gets into a rhythm like that he feels he can hit anything he throws up there. He's hitting runners, floaters, one-dribble shots, two-dribble shots, spot-up shots, you name it."

    Among Carlisle's options against Hamilton could be a continued increased role for second-year guard Fred Jones, who played 26 minutes in Game 5 and tied for team-high scoring honors with 13 points.

    Carlisle noted that Jones and Miller have had some success chasing Hamilton around screens, though he acknowledged Artest has been the club's best defender against Hamilton in one-on-one situations.

    Deciding who defends Hamilton is only one of the many questions Carlisle must answer. Among the others:

    -- What will he do if O'Neal's knee injury makes him as ineffective as he was in Game 4 when he scored only 11 points and took just 10 shots?

    -- How long will he stick with Tinsley, whose injuries to his ankle, knee and hamstring have left him limping around the court?

    -- Could there be a role for Kenny Anderson, the former All-Star starter who's now the third-string point guard behind Anthony Johnson?

    The challenge for Pistons coach Larry Brown will be to coax his team into playing with the level of intensity they've displayed during their best performances of the postseason -- Game 7 against New Jersey in the second round; Games 2 and 5 against Indiana in this series.

    "You have to make the most of it because it doesn't happen to every team," Brown said. "This team went to the (conference) finals last year and got beat four straight, but I told them, you don't always get back to the finals. To have an opportunity to go to the NBA Finals is an incredible achievement, so hopefully we'll understand that."

    The Pistons have won their last five games when they've had an opportunity to advance -- vs. New Jersey and Milwaukee this year, against Philadelphia and Orlando last year and versus Toronto in 2002.

    "This series has taken so many turns in the last few days, and it could take another one if we don't take care of business," Pistons guard Chauncey Billups said.

  2. #2
    Member Snickers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    True
    Age
    27
    Posts
    1,615

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Al and Freddie will start. You heard it here first.

    Unless you heard it somewhere else already.
    Official Member of the Anti-Alliteration Association

  3. #3
    White and Nerdy Anthem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    23,715

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Al and Freddie will start. You heard it here first.

    Unless you heard it somewhere else already.
    Start where? Al for Cro and Freddy for Tinsley?

    Sure, why not?
    Welcome to Pacers Digest! New around here? Here are three tips for making the forum a great place to talk about Pacers basketball.

    • Log in. Even if you want to read instead of post, it's helpful because it lets you:
    • Change your signature options. You can hide all signatures by choosing "Settings" (top right) then "General Settings" (middle left) and unchecking the box "Show Signatures" (in the "Thread Display Options" area).
    • Create an ignore list. I know it may seem unneighborly. But you're here to talk about the Pacers, not argue with someone who's just looking for an argument. Most of the regular users on here make use (at least occasionally) of the "Ignore" feature. Just go to "Settings" -> "Edit Ignore List" and add the names.

    Enjoy your time at PD!

  4. #4

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    He has nothing.
    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

  5. #5
    Pacer Junky Will Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    9,990

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Al and Freddie will start. You heard it here first.

    Unless you heard it somewhere else already.
    I thought those were your wings flapping, but I guess they're your gums!

  6. #6
    Tree People to the Core! indygeezer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Cumberland
    Posts
    14,833
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Nope. Bender at center. Outside offense...who does he have to guard? Against the Pistons we don't have to play a true center anyway (You call Foster/Croshere a true center?) Give him the minutes to get his legs under him and he can produce.
    If you get to thinkin’ you’re a person of some influence, try orderin’ somebody else’s dog around..

  7. #7
    PistonsDynasty
    Guest

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Al and Freddie will start. You heard it here first.

    Unless you heard it somewhere else already.
    Start where? Al for Cro and Freddy for Tinsley?

    Sure, why not?
    Trust me Freddie isn't going to start for Tinsley. Larry would have Lindsey out there so quick putting tons of pressure on him trying to bring the ball up. Half court traps, full press etc if they try to have Freddie play the point against the Pistons.

  8. #8
    sweabs
    Guest

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Freddie starting for Reggie? The Bender idea is actually quite intriguing...I wonder how that would pan out???

  9. #9

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Nope. Bender at center. Outside offense...who does he have to guard? Against the Pistons we don't have to play a true center anyway (You call Foster/Croshere a true center?) Give him the minutes to get his legs under him and he can produce.
    I actually like that idea. If Bender played with some confidence, he could dominate.

    JB
    JO
    Ron
    Reggie (with Fred ready to come in sooner than normal)
    AJ (for injured Tins)

    I'd like to see JB or Al start to shake things up.
    The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!)

  10. #10

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    [quote="pacertom"]
    If Bender played with some confidence, he could dominate.
    I am a JB fan, but let's be honest. He was very tentative in his brief appearance in game 5.

    I'm afraid JB needs some serious playing time before we really see what he can do. Even a grizzled vet has trouble playing well when the appearances are brief and spotty.

  11. #11
    Administrator Unclebuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    31,949

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    At this point I would not change the lineup. In fact I might go back to Foster. Now is the time to circle the wagons, play the players who got you this far.

  12. #12
    Member Dukins's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Brownsburg
    Posts
    906
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    I agree UB. We have to get offensive rebounds and the little things Foster brings. There is no one under the hoop with Croshere shooting from threesville. Also i think Artest on Hamilton and Reg on Prince would help. We would have to switch on Hamilton should he go wild.

    Rick needs to make better in game decisions.


    2006 WORLD CHAMPION INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

  13. #13
    Oh What Could Have Been! fwpacerfan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Fort Wayne
    Age
    43
    Posts
    1,086

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    At this point I would not change the lineup. In fact I might go back to Foster. Now is the time to circle the wagons, play the players who got you this far.
    I agree w/you on this one UB. I actually think Carlisle should have started Foster in game 4 with the idea being you bring in Croshere at the first break. I think that would have messed w/Brown's gameplan a little. They were ready for Croshere in game 4 and took advantage of him being matched up w/Sheed.

    The one change I might do for tonight is start KA at the point. I would also like to see the Pacers start out in a zone to see if that might slow Rip down a little.
    "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
    - Benjamin Franklin

  14. #14
    Administrator/ The Real Jay ChicagoJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Chicago
    Age
    44
    Posts
    17,000

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Unless Rick has a healthy Tinsley in one sleeve and an healthy O'Neal in the other, it probably doesn't matter.
    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


  15. #15
    Grumpy Old Man (PD host) able's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    London UK
    Posts
    8,622

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    Rick's sleeves are empty, were and are.

    Perhaps.......


    let the guys play as they want, let them free, do what they want, let them do it their way, or die their way.

    It's very obvious that such is what the players want.
    So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

    If you've done 6 impossible things today?
    Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!


  16. #16

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    I feel that "what brought us here" can't get us a win tonight, because JO and JT aren't healthy enough to get it done.

    There is risk in using Fred, Jonathan, and Al more because they are more mistake-prone than the starters. Yet, they are capable of great things as well.

    I guess I'd hope that they would grow up tonight. I'd take that chance. It could blow up and you lose by 20. I think the consevative approach, to rely on the injured and the aged, get you beat by 10.
    The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!)

  17. #17

    Default Re: What does Rick have up his sleave?

    We have come to a crossroad.

    Why not play polly?


    But I agree, unless Jtins got a new leg and Jermaine touched the magical hindu cow...there is not much we can do to fool the Pistons tonight.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •