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    Is there such a thing as, and is there any merit to a strategic loss?

    If a team is expected to lose a certain amount of games throughout the
    season, are there times when due to scheduling it might be best to plan
    for when some of those losses occur?

    I am wondering whether or not last nights loss to the Wolves might have
    been a strategic loss.

    The first game of a back-to-back where the opponent is in the Western
    conference, is not that good, and will clearly only be seen twice this
    season. The second game of the back-to-back being of much greater
    importance since it is against an inter-conference opponent who we
    could see plenty of down the road.

    It just seems that had the Pacers kept playing at a high level after building
    up that big lead against the Wolves, they would have buried them and won
    the game in blowout fashion. But they did not, and seemingly shut down
    their attack to allow the not-so-good Wolves to get back in and cruise to
    a comfortable victory.

    What would be a good reason for this?

    1. Knowing we have a much more important game the next night, to not
    increase odds of an injury occuring, and conserve energy to be more rested
    than if putting the "metal to the petal" the entire game.

    2. If we are to suffer a loss it should be against a team that can be least
    damaging to us in the long run. A loss that in the "Grand Scheme" of things
    is relatively unimportant.

    3. A byproduct would be to "help" the NBA by letting a struggling team get
    a much needed win, so if nothing else, their fans don't get more down and
    depressed, and feel more "ripped off" than they might already. Possibly a
    behind the scenes "politics" sort of deal.


    Do teams look at their schedule and say "if we expect to lose X amount
    of games then this should be one of them to increase our odds of
    winning the next" ?


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    I want to win every game.
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    Strategic implies that you planned on losing.

    Assuming that's true, it might be the silliest idea I've ever heard.
    Last edited by Kstat; 12-23-2007 at 02:20 AM.

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    *shakes head*

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    Default Re: Strategic Losses?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat View Post
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    Strategic implies that you planned on losing.
    True.

    I know that it sounds ridiculous.

    Perhaps I should have worded it differently. Ok, rather than saying "planned
    on losing", say "planned on holding back from giving 100% effort".
    Holding back on enough effort that the other team can get the win if they
    really bring a strong effort.

    Doing so (especially in a back-to-back games situation) so you have more
    to give the next night.

    I know it sounds wrong, and silly even, but it just seems that was what
    happened in Minnesota. We just turned it off like a light bulb against a
    supposedly inferior team. That was such a drastic and improbable turn-around
    that yes, it seemed to me like the Pacers intentionally allowed it to happen.

    Did it result in us having more energy to bring at home against the Wizards?
    Quite possibly.
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    I'm sorry, but if a team that uses a 9-10 man rotation feels it needs to tank a game against Minnesota on the road one night in order to have a chance to beat Washington at home the next, it doesn't deserve to be called a playoff team. That would be incredibly pathetic.

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    Frankly wins are at a premium with any team so I don't see it.

    Though to be honest I could see it if the situation was reversed. That is we found ourselves down to Miny by 20 early in the game give players like JO, Marq, Tins a rest and basically phone it in the rest of the way to give yourself a better shot at winning the next game.
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