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Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

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"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

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We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

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Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

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  • #16
    Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

    Originally posted by NorCal_Pacerfan View Post
    Stern and Co are idiots for not televising the Pacers even once this year (nationally).
    One of the games vs. Boston has been added to ESPN's schedule.......
    PSN: MRat731 XBL: MRat0731

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    • #17
      Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

      Originally posted by Suaveness View Post
      Buck, I'm confused, did you love the defense?
      YES!!!!!!!

      Sorry I wasn't clear

      I know you are joking

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      • #18
        Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

        One of the funniest things was in the post game show. Our assistant coach O'Neil (spelling?) was saying. "Reb..I love ya...we've been good friends for a long time...but quisey for threesy is cheesy" lmao.

        Than they showed a picture of Jermaine watching from the bench and Quis had just hit a three. You see Jermaine roll his eyes, look straight into the camera and say "did you hear that? that's got to go" and then laughed real hard.

        That was a fun game, lets keep this rollin. Get well soon Jamaal and hopefully Ike will be back soon enough too. It's just crazy this team IS getting better and they still have many improvements they can make...think about that. I love this team

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        • #19
          Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

          Did anyone see the post-game clip of JO's reaction on the bench to the "Quisy for Threesy" call? That was hilarious. (Dangit.. TheDon beat me to it. The assistant coach was Dan Burke btw). I'm loving the way Rush and Quis played together as well.


          Oh and Memphis beat San Antonio tonight too. And Charlotte over Utah! And the Hawks over the Heat (although that's not really an upset anymore this year). Crazy night in the NBA. I love it!
          Last edited by D23; 12-19-2007, 10:36 PM.

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          • #20
            Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

            Originally posted by rabidpacersfan View Post
            Ahhhhhhhhh why, oh why, did I not get league pass this year. This is what I get for not having faith.
            Should've listened to we faithful few, my brotha.

            What do I do... order it now or wait until the price drops to 50? I don't want to wait until the Golden State game to see this team again.
            You may want to wait until the All-Star break when you get League Pass at a rock bottom price. Otherwise, paying for 2/3 season ain't too bad if you can't wait.
            Sounds like another solid win.
            Yes, it was as well as the last three. I think the Pacers have played some pretty good basketball since mid-November starting w/the game against the Jazz, but ever since that game against the Suns on 12/04, they've gotten better and better IMO. So, yeah, you should've gotten NBA-LP much sooner, dude.

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            • #21
              Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

              I expect us to go 4-0 this week. Lotta good games on tonight!!!

              I have to get back watching!!!

              Great win for the Pacers, Marquis is the man, like I been telling people. And they wanna laugh
              R.I.P. Bernic Mac & Isaac Hayes

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              • #22
                Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                Originally posted by rabidpacersfan View Post
                What do I do... order it now or wait until the price drops to 50? I don't want to wait until the Golden State game to see this team again.
                Gotta get it now, dude.

                Most cable companies let you spread out the cost over like 3 or 4 bills, so it's not amazingly noticeable either way.

                And aside from the Pacers, you gotta start watching New Orleans, Boston, Utah and GState. Those are my favorite four non-Pacer teams to watch and plus you always got Nash, Dallas and San Antonio. And with the way LeBron has been playing so far, dude is required viewing.

                Step up.
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                • #23
                  Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                  Originally posted by D23 View Post
                  ... Memphis beat San Antonio tonight too. And Charlotte over Utah! And the Hawks over the Heat (although that's not really an upset anymore this year). Crazy night in the NBA. I love it!
                  Don't forget the Pistons beat the golden boys of the East, the Celtics (although part of me wanted the Celtics to win just so the Pacers could close the gap on the Pistons, but I'll take the Pistons beating the Celtics just to prove my point that the Celtics really haven't faced many real challenger to date.)

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                  • #24
                    Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                    Onbe thing that has surprised me is how good Rush's defense is. When he comes into the game, the Pacers defense picks up noticeably. He gets a lot of deflections, and he can contain his own man pretty well. He and Daniels make a vry good backcourt defensive tandem

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                    • #25
                      Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                      I can feel it...this team is gelling! Who really wants to play a hungry and gunning pacers team in the playoffs!? NO ONE! and if we get homecourt it's on!
                      "GIMMIE DAT!"-DANGER

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                      • #26
                        Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                        Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
                        Onbe thing that has surprised me is how good Rush's defense is. When he comes into the game, the Pacers defense picks up noticeably. He gets a lot of deflections, and he can contain his own man pretty well. He and Daniels make a vry good backcourt defensive tandem
                        I'm not sure about your last point, because I think 'Quis was simply ON after the first half, but I did observe some good defense from Rush - he's not as one-dimensional as I first thought.


                        We didn't play very well tonight. We beat Philly, but this kind of effort will get us buried in a game against Detroit.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                          I'll bring up the biggest negative in the game, IMO. Granger missed 6 layups (one was blocked, he just flat out blew 5) if I counted them right.

                          No way am I in the Granger completely sucks camp, like da smash, but I'm getting very tired of him making the same stupid mistakes over and over. He makes me nervous everytime he puts the ball down on the floor lately. It's either a charge, a bad pass or something else negative. His basketball IQ seems to be getting worse as the season goes on. He has the skills to be a much better than he's playing right now.
                          "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"

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                          • #28
                            Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                            stat of the night:

                            Andre Miller 35:17 - 4ast, 5 TO
                            Jeff Foster 16:21 - 5ast, 0 TO
                            This is the darkest timeline.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                              Originally posted by avoidingtheclowns View Post
                              stat of the night:

                              Andre Miller 35:17 - 4ast, 5 TO
                              Jeff Foster 16:21 - 5ast, 0 TO
                              That's awesome.
                              "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"

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                              • #30
                                Re: Post Game Thread 26 (W): Terrific defense

                                Originally posted by JayRedd View Post
                                Gotta get it now, dude.

                                Most cable companies let you spread out the cost over like 3 or 4 bills, so it's not amazingly noticeable either way.

                                And aside from the Pacers, you gotta start watching New Orleans, Boston, Utah and GState. Those are my favorite four non-Pacer teams to watch and plus you always got Nash, Dallas and San Antonio. And with the way LeBron has been playing so far, dude is required viewing.

                                Step up.
                                I really enjoy watching Memphis games, because I like to watch a young, up-tempo team squander a sizeable lead almost EVERY night. Iavaroni needs to shape up or ship out. And Nate McMillan for COY?

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