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    A lot of the talk about the Pacers this year emphasizes the 3-pointer. And it is true that the team is taking more shots (about three more per game) from behind the arc than their opponents.

    But what may be more important is the Pacers' ability to score from up close.

    Through 25 games, the Pacers have scored one fewer point than their opponents collectively.

    The Pacers have scored 600 points on 3-pointers, to their opponents' 546. That is an advantage of 54 points.

    But the Pacers have scored 166 more points in the paint than their opponents. They've outscored their opponent in the paint 19 times in 25 games.

    It seems to me the Pacers have a nicely balanced offense. They don't take too many 3s (they took the most during the early six-game losing streak), but they use the three to worry the opponent's defense.

    Maybe it is time to reconsider the "Live by the 3, die by the 3" formula.
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    A lot of the talk about the Pacers this year emphasizes the 3-pointer. And it is true that the team is taking more shots (about three more per game) from behind the arc than their opponents.

    But what may be more important is the Pacers' ability to score from up close.

    Through 25 games, the Pacers have scored one fewer point than their opponents collectively.

    The Pacers have scored 600 points on 3-pointers, to their opponents' 546. That is an advantage of 54 points.

    But the Pacers have scored 166 more points in the paint than their opponents. They've outscored their opponent in the paint 19 times in 25 games.

    It seems to me the Pacers have a nicely balanced offense. They don't take too many 3s (they took the most during the early six-game losing streak), but they use the three to worry the opponent's defense.

    Maybe it is time to reconsider the "Live by the 3, die by the 3" formula.
    With a healthy Ike ( returning to the lineup soon ), JONeal and Harrison , I suspect that we will begin to score more in the paint. I just hope that JONeal continues to take his good/high-percentage shots ( like he has been taking lately ) rather then his patented "fadeaway clanker".
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    Without looking I think Dunleavy and Tinsley are probably at the top for us in points in the paint. Dunleavy gets his by cutting hard on his man and Tinsley just abuses whoever is guarding him in the low post.

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    Thanks for the numbers.. pretty interesting. I wonder, if our total points are practically even, but we've got the slight advantage in 3-point shooting and big advantage in paint points, does that mean we're getting burned by players that excel in the mid-range game? I guess the balance of the equation could also be explained by the free-throw disparity. Either one could be the result of too much dribble penetration, which I think needs to be the Pacers' primary focus on shoring up the D.

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    I guess the balance of the equation could also be explained by the free-throw disparity.

    That's it. We're down 151 (627 - 476) on free throws, and the balance of the difference is from two-pointers outside the paint.
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    Where do you go for points in the paint, Putnam? I couldn't find them anywhere last time I was looking.

    Interesting stuff though. And I think we had like 100 points in the paint against NY.
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    Where do you go for points in the paint, Putnam?

    Uh, usually you go down almost all the way to the end of the court, and then you stand right under the glass thingie and thrown the big orange ball through the metal ring with the net stuff hanging off it. See it there? It's right above you.


    Oh, you meant where are the game stats to be found? Where does Putnam procure points in the paint?

    The nba.com game final for each game lists points in the paint, fast break points and a couple of other bits.
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