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    since i still see no real back up and we did free roster space is there any point guards out there we can use ? tinsley cant do this on his own
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    Default Re: do we need a Back up at the point?

    this is going to be the most lop sided poll in the history of Pacers Digest


    its not a question of us needing it...its a question of us finding one that is good...and at the moment my guess is we'll be stuck with what we got....

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    Default Re: do we need a Back up at the point?

    Personal opinion about the current events of said player aside.....

    We do in fact need a backup PG. Perhaps we can address this issue in the upcoming NBA draft after this season (pending we DON'T trade this years #1 pick with a player around trade deadline time)

    ...unless we dont have a #1 pick this year from any trade we did in the past.

    If it were me, Id be picking us a PG this upcoming draft. I wanted us to go after a PG back when we drafted Shawne....This years upcoming draft should be pretty decent with the PG position. Here are a few names that stand out, not sure if we'd have a shot at getting any of them:

    - Derrick Rose
    - Tywon Lawson
    - D.J. Augustin

    Id rather draft a PG and groom him, rather then trading for a aging vet. just me .2 cents.
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    Not only does Jamaal need a backup, he apparently needs people "covering his back."

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    JT and JO for Heinrich/Wallace.

    Or Heinrich/Duhon for Tins/Ike.

    Or Heinrich for Ike/Shawne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McKeyFan View Post
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    Not only does Jamaal need a backup, he apparently needs people "covering his back."

    beat me to it. I think I read "bodyguard" instead of "backupguard".

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    Default Re: do we need a Back up at the point?

    Of course we need a backup pg. Jamaal cant play every minute of every game and apparently we don't have anyone else who can play point.

    I am not sure what before all hell breaks loose is supposed to mean.

    Why this team cant sign someone like Brevin Knight is beyond me. He was available, fits into Obie's system and would have been fairly cheap.

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    I am not sure what before all hell breaks loose is supposed to mean.
    I was thinking it had to do with things like high speed chases, bullet ridden cars, AK 47 assault rifles, shattered elbows, and, at worst, a bullet lodged in our starting point guard.

    Thankfully, all hell hasn't broken loose just yet.
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    I was thinking it had to do with things like high speed chases, bullet ridden cars, AK 47 assault rifles, shattered elbows, and, at worst, a bullet lodged in our starting point guard.

    Thankfully, all hell hasn't broken loose just yet.
    I was unaware there was a high speed chase involving Jamaal when did this happen? From what I read he just drove downtown. And he was not one of the people who chased after the people who shot at them.

    Certainly he should feel lucky he is not dead and I hope he stops going to places where this might happen.

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    I was unaware there was a high speed chase involving Jamaal when did this happen? From what I read he just drove downtown.
    Well, you gotta figure if someone is shooting an AK 47 at your car and hitting your homey in the passenger's seat in the elbow, then you're probably not trying to get away at the speed limit.
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    Well, you gotta figure if someone is shooting an AK 47 at your car and hitting your homey in the passenger's seat in the elbow, then you're probably not trying to get away at the speed limit.
    Uhhh, the car was parked when the shooting occured and I'm not sure I'd call the Pacers equipment manager Tinsley's "homey".

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    I was unaware there was a high speed chase involving Jamaal when did this happen? From what I read he just drove downtown. And he was not one of the people who chased after the people who shot at them.
    You're very right. That was James Tinsley. Not Jamaal Tinsley.
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    Default Re: do we need a Back up at the point?

    Yes we need a backup. I was saying that when Tinsley was enjoying some fan appreciation.

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    Does Quis count?

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    Default Re: do we need a Back up at the point?

    We should get a backup PG and probably sooner rather than later, but we shouldn't trade Shawne, Danny, or Ike for the PG unless it is a young guy with equal or greater potential to one of those three.

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    Default Re: do we need a Back up at the point?

    We're lucky that we're not discussing the need for a starting PG.

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    No we don't need one at this time.

    We gave Travis Diener 5 million dollars for a reason. I am more than willing to give him, and Andre Owens too for that matter, more than 20 some games to prove their worth.

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    No we don't need one at this time.

    We gave Travis Diener 5 million dollars for a reason. I am more than willing to give him, and Andre Owens too for that matter, more than 20 some games to prove their worth.
    Every time I think about the 5 mil we gave Diener I

    For 4 mil over two years the Clippers got Travis Knight

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    No we don't need one at this time.

    We gave Travis Diener 5 million dollars for a reason. I am more than willing to give him, and Andre Owens too for that matter, more than 20 some games to prove their worth.
    I am also not ready to give up on these 2 just yet. Diener is a great shooter. He'll get it back if we don't give up too soon. Owens can be a defensive stopper in time. It could cost some games until they get more experience. I'm willing to endure that.

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    Diener is a great shooter.
    You know what makes somebody a great shooter? Hitting shots.

    Travis has hit 51 NBA threes in his life. IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER, only 51.

    How can you even hope to claim "great shooter" status for somebody who's only hit 51 shots in his life?

    Moreover, he's a career 36% shooter from behind the arc. That's not much for a "great shooter."
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    Default Re: do we need a Back up at the point?

    We've needed PG back-up since the season began. (Anthony Johnson!!! 2.86 mill @ hawks) Diener and Owens are there, Marquis is there, Rush handles the ball well, BUT it would be nice if we could have come into the season with a tried and true utility PG (Darrell Armstrong!!! 1.2 mill @ nets).
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    I went with wait and see till the deadline, but even then I'm not sure I'd be willing to give up Shawne or Ike which is probably what it would take to get a decent backup. IMO Marquis is starting to look more comfortable running the point and I think he's actually a better option than most of the players that have been discussed as trade options on here. If we can find a player that can help us without taking away our young talent I'd be for it, but otherwise I think we should wait and draft one this year or sign a free-agent.

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    No.
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