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  • #91
    Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

    Originally posted by Evan_The_Dude View Post
    Thank you. Everybody wants to jump the gun so quickly that they're ignoring the major contradiction in that article that has now been said TWICE.
    I just can't figure it out... the first article seems to say both things. I guess "involving Jamaal Tinsley and his three brothers" could just mean that the brothers were there, and they were in Jamaal's car.
    This space for rent.

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    • #92
      Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

      Originally posted by Anthem View Post
      I just can't figure it out... the first article seems to say both things. I guess "involving Jamaal Tinsley and his three brothers" could just mean that the brothers were there, and they were in Jamaal's car.

      What I got from the articles that I have read (and I could be wrong), is that Tinsley was there at the club and was in one of the three cars who were being followed. But he was not present when a member of his party fired shots back. I read in one of the articles that two of the three cars with Tins, took off in pursuit of the guys following them, while the third (presumably with Tins inside it) stayed at the hotel where they pulled into. It was during the chase that the shots from his brother were fired.

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      • #93
        Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

        Originally posted by benjaminooo View Post
        8 seconds saloon
        Cloud 9

        The only logical explanation is that Tinsley is huge numbers fan and is planning his next "incident" at club TEN (yes, the lesbian bar at 12th & Penn).

        One would also expect that after that there will only be one more occurrence after TEN since the Tin-man sports the number 11 on the court.

        Does Jamaal have plans to open his own club 11 thus sealing the fate of this numbers game?

        Stay tuned!
        I made a movie trailer about my numbers theory.. warning there is some adult language!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye8sTLPA9Jk

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        • #94
          Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

          Yeah, the article is confusing but Tinsley was present.
          I think KP is a Captain Planet fan. He believes that the collective will of five decent starters can outweigh the power of top-level talent. Too bad Herb won't cut the check for their Planeteer rings.

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          • #95
            Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

            Originally posted by MistyRo76 View Post
            What I got from the articles that I have read (and I could be wrong), is that Tinsley was there at the club and was in one of the three cars who were being followed. But he was not present when a member of his party fired shots back. I read in one of the articles that two of the three cars with Tins, took off in pursuit of the guys following them, while the third (presumably with Tins inside it) stayed at the hotel where they pulled into. It was during the chase that the shots from his brother were fired.
            That's consistent with my interpretation of the articles I have read.

            You never do know for sure whether something written is ever true. By golly, maybe it was Granger and his brothers involved in this incident. lol.

            None of this has changed my view of Tinsley. Just get him back on the court right now!

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            • #96
              Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

              Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
              That place looks pretty nice. Non-smoking, no jeans allowed, business attire. Seems like a nice place.


              I'm not upset at Tinsley for this incident, I am simply not, There is no crime about being out at 3:30 AM, there is no game until Tuesday - who knows the pacers might not even have a practice today.

              I'm just thinking about the past year and the number of times I've been out past 2:00 AM and at no time did I think, well if something bad happens to me it is my own fault for being out this late - nor did I think being out that late should reflect poorly on my character or anything like that

              Well said Unclebuck! I still love to go out and see bands play at clubs all around San Diego where I live now and I'm 41 years old with kids. Most bands don't start playing til 10pm and typically play til 2am. Can't blame him for going out with friends! Smart of him to head to a public place hoping the idiots following him would pass on their attack.

              Shade mentioned something about not addressing how bad west 38th had gotten and I have to agree. I grew up just north of Indy and used to hang out at the Lafayette Square mall...hell, rode my moped there when I was 15, see movies at night, dinner etc. That was a great area of town!!! Just a shame to see what it has turned into.

              Glad Tinsley is ok.

              Water

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              • #97
                Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                Originally posted by mike_D View Post
                I agree I'm glad he is okay.Which is the most important thing.

                In todays world employers do have the right to tell you what you can or cannot do. I'm a cop , my job tells me who I can or cannot hang out with, where I can or cannot hang out, how much i can drink, where I can work a second job and ect.I could go on and on.You know what if I screw up I make the front page of every local newspaper, and I lose my job and my pension.There nothing I can complain about because I signed up for it.Now people will say well cops are held to a higher standard and I agree with that but anybody reguardless of where you work that makes your employer look bad your probably going to get fired, thats the way it works.

                Tinsely in the same situation, he's in the public eye, he's an important piece to this team, if he screws up he can seriously damage his employers reputation and if he does it enough times he could see himself without a job.This is an organization that has had way to many outside incidents and thats a problem considering this organization is having problems bringing fans to the game.I have no doubt in my mind alot of it is due to the off the court issues.

                Tinsley has to understand everywhere he goes, everthing he says,everything he does will be scrutinized.That comes with the job. He's not just representing himself but the Pacers as well.He needs to understand that and I don't think he truly gets it.He needs to choose his friends wisely and by that I mean stay away from trouble makers and known criminals stay away from night clubs that have a history of problems(not saying cloud 9 has a rep because I have no idea) It stinks but he's going to have to sacrifice a little bit, he's going to have to decide what is more important to him. If he doesn't want to make any sacrifices he can always be his own boss and open his own business. No one is forcing a gun to his head to stay in the NBA.

                All this only applies if his employer is actually willing to terminate him. Perhaps some truly ugly incident could result in that, but not this one unless something comes out other than what we know. It appears confusing as to when or if he was present. In any case, based on what we know so far, it does not appear he was in the wrong.
                I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

                -Emiliano Zapata

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                • #98
                  Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                  Originally posted by Elgin56 View Post
                  Well I no more said that the Tinman was winning me over one game at a time and now this situation. I wore myself out on Jackson and his many off court transgressions and I have nothing left for Tins misdeeds. Play ball!
                  Amen brother. There's nothing left. No more complaints from me. Just keep on shooting...lol.

                  Just don't wanna see any serious crimes like murder or rape.

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                  • #99
                    Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                    Maybe indianapolis needs to clean up there city. Its quite the hood your building down there in central indiana.

                    Originally posted by Aw Heck View Post
                    Obviously they're more selective about where they go at night.

                    Tinsley needed to exercise better judgment about where he went last night. Other than that, I don't think there's anything else to blame him for. Unlike previous incidents, it sounds like he didn't start it and he tried to avoid it.

                    This doesn't bother me as much as Club Rio or 8 Second Saloon. Although he really needs to figure out that there are certain places he shouldn't be late at night. Who knows, maybe after being shot at and having someone get hit, maybe that will finally hit home.

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                    • Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                      Emotions mixed after latest Tinsley incident
                      http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/tinsl...nt_071209.html


                      By Conrad Brunner | Dec. 9, 2007
                      Relief. Frustration. Confusion. Uncertainty.


                      The Pacers were dealing with a jumble of emotions Sunday in the aftermath of another early-morning incident involving point guard Jamaal Tinsley, whose party was fired upon by an assailant armed with an assault rifle in front of the Conrad Hotel Sunday morning. Pacers equipment manager Joe Qatato was wounded in both elbows and remains hospitalized.
                      “Upset,” said team President Larry Bird when asked his first response to the news. “I really didn’t know what to think about it. I was just hoping everybody was alright. You feel bad any time your players are in some situations, you feel bad for everything that happened. I don’t know enough about everything that went on to talk a lot in detail but I just feel bad for the organization. I’m very passionate about this organization, always have been, and we’ve had some things that’s happened here that have really bothered me and bothered our fans and really the whole state. We’ll get through this but it’s tough right now.”

                      According to police, the incident began at “Cloud 9,” a club on West 38th Street in Indianapolis, where Tinsley’s group was being chided about their expensive cars – including a Rolls Royce – and obvious wealth. Tinsley’s group left the club but was followed to The Conrad by a gray Chrysler and a dark pickup truck. That’s where the shooting began, with the Rolls Royce struck by several bullets and another vehicle on Tinsley’s caravan taking five bullet holes, adding the suspected weapon is a .223 caliber assault rifle.
                      It was the third time in a little more than a year Tinsley has been involved in events rooted in nightclubs in the same area. He is scheduled to stand trial next month in charges from a fight at the 8 Second Saloon last February. He was also present but not charged in October 2006 when former teammate Stephen Jackson fired gunshots in the air after a car ran into him in the parking lot of Club Rio.

                      “Jamaal put himself in a situation that was very, very dangerous,” said Coach Jim O’Brien. “These guys have every right to go to a nightclub. I have a right, everybody here can be out till 3 or 4 o’clock in the morning. As a professional athlete, where we’re in an environment nationally that has seen professional athletes targeted, it was not a good decision and that’s basically it. It was not a good decision. I’m sure he knows that and I’m sure there will be a lifestyle change for him . … But, to the best of our knowledge he was a victim. He wasn’t out there causing problems, he was victimized from everything we understand. The police will get to the bottom of it and we’ll move on.”
                      Tinsley did not practice with the team Sunday at Conseco Fieldhouse and will meet with Bird and O’Brien Monday morning to determine the franchise’s course of action. The Pacers next play Tuesday in Cleveland.

                      “We’ll deal with it,” Bird said. “We’ve got to find out the information first. We don’t know anything that’s going on. We can talk about what we’re going to do but until we know everything that happened, if our players are at fault, they’ll be punished. …
                      “This is something we can’t just put right behind us and walk away from. It’s something we’ll have to discuss. I don’t know how long it’ll take and we’ll continue to talk about it. We have to make a change, there’s no question about it.”
                      Team captain Jermaine O’Neal spoke for the players after Sunday’s practice, saying they would lend Tinsley their support.

                      “As players we understand the situation and we understand the backlash that comes,” O’Neal said. “As players we have to understand when we step out our house we are targets. We make a lot of money, we drive nice cars, people idolize us, but people also envy us. We have to make sure that we put ourselves in better situations. Not to say Jamaal wasn’t in a good situation, but we have to know what the situation is every time we leave our house.
                      “It’s very unfortunate, especially considering the type of year he’s having. He’s our early-season MVP. We need him to play very, very well. We’re going to support him. I know this city has been down this road with us before. Let the judicial process play itself out and continue to support us. This team is hitting its stride where we’re really starting to get healthy. We don’t want to be distracted. We know it’s a little bit of a distraction, but we’re going to play basketball and let Jamaal handle his situation and move on.” Police were investigating whether to file charges against Tinsley's brother, James, who returned fire. He had a permit for his weapon. The assailant escaped.
                      Last edited by indyman37; 12-09-2007, 04:24 PM.
                      I think KP is a Captain Planet fan. He believes that the collective will of five decent starters can outweigh the power of top-level talent. Too bad Herb won't cut the check for their Planeteer rings.

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                      • Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                        Here's ESPN's take:

                        http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3147811
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                        • Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                          Yeah and if you look here, there are plenty-o-ignorant comment:
                          http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/3147811

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                          • Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                            ESPN actually covered it with taste. I'm glad they stated that pro-athletes have become targets. Because after reading this entire thread thats what I was thinking about. Athletes and the amount of money they make are what is causing this. Someone mentioned jealousy thats a big part of it. These guys on the Pacers,Colts and any pro franchise are going to have to realize that they are going to be in confrontations because some are looking for an easy lawsuit. As long as CNN,ESPN and others plaster the criminals faces on TV others will follow looking for their 15 minutes of fame. IMHO... Tins did nothing wrong.
                            "He wanted to get to that money time. Time when the hardware was on the table. That's when Roger was going to show up. So all we needed to do was stay close"
                            Darnell Hillman (Speaking of former teammate Roger Brown)

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                            • Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                              As long as Tinsley did not shoot or fight with anyone....then I don't see him doing anything wrong here. This could have happened to any pro athelete out there.
                              Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                              • Re: Jamaal & The Tinsley brothers involved in shooting

                                Originally posted by aceace View Post
                                ESPN actually covered it with taste. I'm glad they stated that pro-athletes have become targets. Because after reading this entire thread thats what I was thinking about. Athletes and the amount of money they make are what is causing this. Someone mentioned jealousy thats a big part of it. These guys on the Pacers,Colts and any pro franchise are going to have to realize that they are going to be in confrontations because some are looking for an easy lawsuit. As long as CNN,ESPN and others plaster the criminals faces on TV others will follow looking for their 15 minutes of fame. IMHO... Tins did nothing wrong.
                                Poor Jamaal. Three incidents in one year. Must have broke a mirror or something.

                                Reggie Wayne, Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Dwight Freeney, Danny Granger, Mike Dunleavy, etc.......all of them just must be lucky. LOL!

                                What a pile of

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