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    So, since Marbury is obviously on his way out in New York and the Pacers need a point guard, something could be worked out right? For purposes of this discussion, we're going to assume that JO will not opt out.

    Stephon for JO works straight up, but JO is worth more than Marbury, even though Marbury's contract is two years shorter.

    So, they have to either give us more or take someone we don't want.

    Marbury and Tinsley cannot coexist. So we add Tins to the trade. That means New York has to add about $6 million in salary.

    Possible guys include: Quentin Richardson (2 years after this one), Jamal Crawford (3 years), Malik Rose (1 year), Jerome James (2 years). Richardson and Crawford make more than Tinsley.

    Options:

    Marbury, Richardson or Crawford, David Lee for JO, Tins, Rush/Graham/Diener/Harrison.

    Marbury, Rose, Lee, and a 1st round pick for JO, Tins, Harrison.

    There are more, but they pretty much fall into those two categories.

    The first deal with Richardson (because he's cheaper than Crawford) seems like the most likely deal for me.

    Why:

    Pacers - They save about $40 million by getting rid of JO for Marbury. His contract will be up in two years when Ike, Danny, Shawne, and Lee will want extensions. They get a stop gap at PG in Marbury for 2 years, and some nice young talent in David Lee.

    Knicks - Marbury cannot stay. JO and Tins both played well under Isaiah and reportedly had good relationships with him. Nate Robinson is not a viable starting PG. Richardson is an overpaid backup in New York. Curry and Randolph are both terrible defenders. JO can play with either of them and really shore up their interior defense. Isaiah must win now or get fired.

    Pacers lineup after the trade:

    PG - Marbury, Diener, Owens
    SG - Dunleavy, Richardson, Daniels
    SF - Granger, Richardson, Williams
    PF - Lee/Diogu (in some order)
    C - Murphy/Foster (in some order)

    It's just an idea, I'm not even sure if I like it. It does give us a lot of cap relief in a couple years while still giving us a competitive team.
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    Default Re: Marbury/JO deal

    Uhh, the Knicks have Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry. Where are they going to start JO at SF?

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    Default Re: Marbury/JO deal

    Does Marbury bring his boxing gloves?

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    i came up with the following idea, incorporating LAL.

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    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +1.7 ppg, +4.5 rpg, and -1.4 apg.
    Incoming Players
    David Lee
    6-9 PF from Florida
    9.0 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.5 minutes
    Malik Rose
    6-7 PF from Drexel
    1.3 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.0 minutes
    Stephon Marbury
    6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
    15.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 6.8 apg in 37.1 minutes
    Andrew Bynum
    7-0 C from St. Joseph (HS)
    10.3 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 1.5 apg in 24.1 minutes
    Kwame Brown
    6-11 PF / C from Glynn Academy (HS)
    6.0 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 22.2 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    David Harrison
    7-0 C from Colorado
    4.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.8 minutes
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-1 PG from Iowa State
    10.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 7.6 apg in 32.8 minutes
    Troy Murphy
    6-11 PF from Notre Dame
    12.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.3 apg in 24.3 minutes
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    13.2 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 3.2 apg in 29.4 minutes

    New York Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: -7.9 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +3.3 apg.
    Incoming Players
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-1 PG from Iowa State
    10.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 7.6 apg in 32.8 minutes
    Troy Murphy
    6-11 PF from Notre Dame
    12.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.3 apg in 24.3 minutes
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    13.2 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 3.2 apg in 29.4 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    David Lee
    6-9 PF from Florida
    9.0 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.5 minutes
    Malik Rose
    6-7 PF from Drexel
    1.3 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.0 minutes
    Eddy Curry
    6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
    18.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 32.9 minutes
    Stephon Marbury
    6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
    15.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 6.8 apg in 37.1 minutes

    L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +6.2 ppg, -6.9 rpg, and -1.9 apg.
    Incoming Players
    David Harrison
    7-0 C from Colorado
    4.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.8 minutes
    Eddy Curry
    6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
    18.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 32.9 minutes
    Outgoing Players
    Andrew Bynum
    7-0 C from St. Joseph (HS)
    10.3 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 1.5 apg in 24.1 minutes
    Kwame Brown
    6-11 PF / C from Glynn Academy (HS)
    6.0 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 22.2 minutes



    we go into full blown rebuild mode. between brown, marbury, and rose, that's around 40 million in expiring over the next two years (right when, granger, ike, lee, and bynum would be up for new deals).

    we would obviously be terrible this year, but we could draft a nice young PG like rose.

    rose/dinier
    dunleavy/quis
    granger/williams
    ike/lee
    bynum/lee

    that team could be very nice in a few years.
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    Default Re: Marbury/JO deal

    The Lakers would never do that. Ever.

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    Uhh, the Knicks have Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry. Where are they going to start JO at SF?
    Sounds perfect to me and probably (very secretly) to JO.

    No, but Marbury for JO? It's like trading MRSA for AIDS.

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    Sounds perfect to me and probably (very secretly) to JO.

    No, but Marbury for JO? It's like trading MRSA for AIDS.
    I don't like Marbury, but he goes away 2 years sooner than JO and if JO takes Tins with him, it just may be something I can live with.

    There are 96 PF/C minutes available in every game. JO should play about 30 of them. That leaves 66 to split between Randolph and Curry.

    Right now they're playing a total of 69 minutes per game. The only other big NY has that's worth playing is David Lee. If he comes to Indy in the trade, there is not a significant minute problem.
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    Default Re: Marbury/JO deal

    marbury's contract is only 1 year shorter than j.o.'s.

    imo, marbury is a chemistry killer. i'd rather trade j.o. for no-name expiring contracts, if it comes to that.

    in theory, 96 pf/c minutes for j.o., zach, and curry sounds reasonable. in practice, who are you going to bench? i'll bet none of them are willing to come off the bench.

    plus i agree that the lakers wouldn't touch it.

    so that 3-way trade is too much of a fantasy trade, imo. and i don't want marbs anyway.

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