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    & thats not our friend in Iraq!

    The fantasy league that we've had on here for 7 years or so is just about done.

    The Sports.ws site has given no clue as to weather they will be open for the 07-08 season. In the past they have either been open by now or had a sign on thier main page saying the site would be open on what-ever date.

    So far nothing.

    On top of that, their help desk has not responded to my e-mails. I also found an e-mail address for the founder of the site. That was a dead end too.

    I have not had any updates from Able on the site he was working on. It was a long shot at best & knowing how busy he is I really can't see him pulling to much time & energy away from projects that pay the bills.

    I have searched the web but nothing comes close to what we had with the old site. The NBA.com league we did last year just wasn't the same & even thou we could go back to it. Why bother, it wasn't that much fun & most of us lost interest rather quickly.

    Unless some one has a site that they've found that looks promising it looks like the only things left to do are pull the plug & switch off the lights.

    Barring a sudden rise from the dead for Sports.ws it pretty much looks like the end.

    Thanks to everyone past & present that made the league work.

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    That sucks. I was looking forward to it. I actually didn't mind the NBA.com setup, once I got used to how it worked. Too bad I punted a few games before I figured it out, though.

    Thanks for your hard work, Jose.

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    Bummer.
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    Default Re: ABA's future is in doubt

    What's wrong with Yahoo's?

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    What's wrong with Yahoo's?
    It's better than that NBA one. I thought that interface was horrible.

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    If you continue on, and there are any openings this year, I'd be willing to give it a shot again, things haven't really slowed down, but I don't have the birth of a son putting things in flux this year.....

    I'd be ok with Yahoo, it's not as nice as the WS, but it still works.

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    maybe we should try to contact this person who said they may be able to help that blogger:

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    contact me on backboard@hotmail.co.uk and I may be able to help.
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    I've already sent an e-mail.

    I'll let you know what I find out ASAP.

    As far as Yahoo is concerned, if I remember correctly there were several members of the board that had played there in the past & not thought too highly of the site. I also think they limited the size of their leagues to 16. Since our league was larger I don't think it was considered for that reason as well.

    With the state that we find our league in now, I would consider almost any site that the majority could agree to play on.

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    The guy at the backboard@hotmail.co.uk address has set up his own Pacers Digests style web site.

    Within that site are a series of fantasy basketball boards that require a password. I'm working on getting a password & once in, I'm sure to have more info.

    The only thing I can tell you now is that they have a keeper league that has been around 5 years & they play on a system based on a 240 minute game.

    Sounds very familiar & I hope just as promising.

    More, as I know it.

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    That's great Jose!

    I've never played at Yahoo so I can't comment on how it is.

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    The latest is that the site is running several different leagues & might form another. There could be openings for a few of us but I doubt we could bring in enough for either the ABA or the KL.

    Thats not written in stone but its the impression I get.

    Once again, I'll pass along more when I know it.

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    This is tragic news and I have already half completed my draft plan, I hope your workings Jose come to realism as I'm just not ready to give up on my team yet.........

    NO QUITING NO.... as much as i disliked nba.com I will go back if it's the last option..... Howard, Harrington, Kirelenko, Bogut... you will live to see another day..


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    Well I got no reply at all form that email addie, so for now I assume he chooses not to answer me

    The total project of building the site for future comm purposes has been in a slump when I had a hard time getting the additional coders, however it is something that is still on my "todo" list.

    I will wait a few more days/weeks (yes I know when the season starts) and then simply work out a dbase solution myself, have a chat with Doug to do the parsing and write a routine that will update the db every day, it will be nowhere near as functional as sports.ws, but I can guarantee you the same scoring system and a "simple" webpage to view results and standings.

    It may be more "difficult" (I.e. not drag and drop) to change line-ups but it will work.

    it would however only be for the ABA league

    Any help from people with dbase experience is welcome btw
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    I can now say with 100% certainty we will have a site, within the next 4 weeks.

    cheers
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    Thanks Able

    Thats GREAT to hear, if you can, try to keep us upto date on how all this is going?

    Since we can only have the one league, how 'bout we just run with the KL.

    The owners commitment is proven & they're already in place. Also, teams were constructed based on that scoring system.

    If Sports.ws does open up then we can try to get the ABA back up & running.
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    Well when I said one, I meant the KL but perhaps we can run two, I am checking out some open-source stuff that is used for football and I can most likely adept that handily.
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    Well when I said one, I meant the KL but perhaps we can run two, I am checking out some open-source stuff that is used for football and I can most likely adept that handily.
    Thanks able - I'd reply in more depth but I have the weekend of Sept 15 penciled in as when I'll put some serious KL work in. I'll drop you a PM then once I start wrapping my brain around fantasy bball again.
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    OK now you all could make my life a little bit easier if there were one or two ppl available that are good in php/mysql, is so then pls email me, as I am about 35 pm's behind on here and really have no time to look at them

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    Thats awesome news Able.... awesome...

    I'd love to help if there is anyway i can...... not really good with PHP or SQL but any routine figures matching or etc etc, just let me know

    very excited....


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    Not a PHP guy, plus I'm swamped right now anyway.
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    still the guy I was looking for Doug

    I don't need that much help and I have two options atm, which I will discuss later tonight but I might need your parser and some adeptions if possible but we have 8 weeks for that

    Also the draft will have to be done manual, as I see that as rather unimportant for the functionality of the program in this stage

    It looks like I will be using Oracle after all, and the other option is to adept a football game in PHP/MySql but for future purposes I prefer Oracle as it is more sturdy

    Anyway, will post about it later tonight
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    still the guy I was looking for Doug

    I don't need that much help and I have two options atm, which I will discuss later tonight but I might need your parser and some adeptions if possible but we have 8 weeks for that

    Also the draft will have to be done manual, as I see that as rather unimportant for the functionality of the program in this stage

    It looks like I will be using Oracle after all, and the other option is to adept a football game in PHP/MySql but for future purposes I prefer Oracle as it is more sturdy

    Anyway, will post about it later tonight
    Manual Draft isn't a problem - we've done that before with the KL anyway.

    We could even enter trades in manually if we had to.
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    Ok as I said, I ahve two horses in this race atm, 1 is adepting an open-source football game, which means about 100 hours of work (or 200) to change a lot, advantage, the base is there, beit that all the algo's need changing, ut it looks a million bucks, has draft etc and some hooks for parsers.

    the laternative is to use some new oracle tools, learn rapid and bukld it from scratch with some help from a friend, advantage it will work better, is more scaleable and can do a gazillion leagues in the future.
    Negative on that one is that it will look **** ni the early days and there are no draft/trade options to start off with.

    Ideally I would like to to the Oracle one, because it is scaleable and I can use the algo's used by (or likewise, you nay need to be a math genius to work them out) sports.ws.

    either way it will be done, but as I said, count on the draft and trades for the time being outside of the program and perhaps in the early days some scores may have to be put in by hand as well, but we'll see
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    Thanks for all the work.

    Sounds like option 2 is our best bet.

    As Displaced Knick mentione above, the KL draft will be no biggie. Its just 3 rounds anyway. Theres seldom a trade in the KL but if we have one I'm sure it can be figured out.

    If we don't get the ABA back up this fall at least we'll have something to build on down the road.

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