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    Default 2007 FIBA Olympic qualifiers thread

    TEAM USA's roster:


    C: Amare Stoudamie
    PF: Dwight Howard
    SF: LeBron James
    SG: Kobe Bryant
    PG: Jason Kidd

    Bench:
    Tyson Chandler
    Mike Miller
    Chauncey Billups
    Tayshaun Prince
    Carmelo Anthony
    Michael Redd
    Deron Williams

    Schedule:

    8/22: Venezuala
    8/23: Virgin Islands
    8/25: Canada
    8/26: Brazil
    8/27: playoffs begin

    Notable NBA participants:

    Canada: Samual Dalembert (Sixers)

    Argentina: Carlos Delfino (Raptors)
    Luis Scola (Rockets)

    Brazil: Leandro Barbosa (Suns)
    Rafael Araujo (Jazz)
    Anderson Varejao (Cavs)
    Nene (Nugets)
    Tiago Splitter (Spurs)

    Uruguay: Esteban Batista (Hawks)

    Puerto Rico: Carlos Arroyo (Magic)
    Jose Juan Barea (Mavericks)


    Other than Argentina, Brazil and Puerto Rico, there aren't any olympic-quality teams here other than us.

    This is the best group of talent we've had since 1994. We better sweep this year, no exceptions.
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    Default Re: 2007 FIBA Olympic qualifiers thread

    I'm surprised that Stoudamire, Howard, and Chandler are the only big guys. If two of them get in foul trouble, Team USA is gonna struggle.
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    We better sweep this year, no exceptions.
    Why is Olympic team the only team held to such ridiculous expectations? If we drop a group game but win the whole thing I'd still be pretty happy. I just find it silly that unless we win every game by about 20 people complain. It ain't '92 any more.

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    Default Re: 2007 FIBA Olympic qualifiers thread

    Aggreed bulldog. Seems like someone is not taking history lessons as seriously as they should. There's no question the US has the best talent, has the deepest team and has an enormous amount of flexibility.

    However, the International game is a little different, players from other countries usually play more games together, creating better chemistry and/or feel for each other (during the games), usually have some NBA players themselves aswell as better average knowledge on players they will be facing (because the NBA is widely viewed) and expectations are much more realistic, not too mention that playing against the US and actually making it a very tight game or even winning is seen as a victory and in itself makes these teams extremely motivated against the US team a lot of times rising about their usual level.

    And then there is the matter of the US team actually beying expected to beat each opponent and by double digits while at it. This creates tension and not the positive sort I would think.

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    Not sure this relates to 2007 FIBA at all, but it's about international bball and I found it rather interesting. Basically it's about Luol Deng and possibly others with Great Britian ties playing for them largely to get a British passport.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/spo...ll/6950315.stm


    NBA star gets GB ball rolling

    Report: Deng predicts GB success in 2012

    Playing in front of 450 spectators in Sussex is a long way from megastardom in the US with Chicago Bulls, but for Luol Deng, it is just as important.

    On Thursday night the Chicago Bulls star made his home debut for Great Britain against Ireland in Crawley, in a warm-up match ahead of key Euro-basket games against Georgia and Croatia.

    But the 22-year-old hopes it will be the first step on the road to the 2012 Olympic Games, and the start of a revolution in British basketball.

    When the London Games come around, the Sudan-born player will be 27, and on the basis of his current form, would walk into any Olympic team in the world.

    Last season he was the National Basketball Association's Sportsman of the Year, and is poised to sign a new four-year contract, which would put him above Premier League stars such as Wayne Rooney and John Terry in terms of earnings.

    But for £70 a day, Deng has chosen to play for Britain, a country which, in its one previous Olympic basketball tournament - also in London, in 1948 - lost all three games.

    The burning question is - why?

    Partly as a way of saying "thank you" to a country which granted his family political asylum after his father, a government minister in Sudan, was jailed in a coup.

    And partly because this is where he learnt to play the game, with the Brixton Topcats.

    After that he won a basketball scholarship to the United States and never looked back - but as a result he never got a British passport either.

    This is where British Basketball comes in.

    Their coach, an energetic American, Chris Finch, has very clear views on how Britain can build a world class team.

    The only way to do it by 2012, he reckons, is to encourage NBA stars with British links to sign up.

    And so with the help of a letter to the Home Office from Lord Coe, Deng's passport was granted last year.

    Pops Mensah Bonsu of the Dallas Mavericks is also on board, and Kelenna Azubuike of the Golden State Warriors is waiting for his passport to go through.

    Admittedly, the policy has raised a few eyebrows - after all, is not the point of the London Games to encourage a whole new generation of children to take up the sport, not import ready-made stars?

    Sue Campbell, the chair of UK Sport, has made it clear she will not tolerate any sport chasing so-called "passports of convenience", but she is happy that basketball has so far stuck to the guidelines, only targeting players with legitimate British links.

    And watching Luol Deng this week at a basketball camp for 290 children, I was left in no doubt that his presence has given the sport in this country a huge lift.

    Basketball in Britain is crying out for role models to inspire young players, and keep them interested.

    If Luol Deng can do that, then £70 a day may feel like the best wage he has ever earned.

    Story from BBC SPORT:

    Published: 2007/08/17 06:09:51 GMT

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    I'm surprised that Stoudamire, Howard, and Chandler are the only big guys. If two of them get in foul trouble, Team USA is gonna struggle.
    I think the feeling is that the international game is more perimeter-oriented. I'm just glad Chris Bust didn't make it. Phew!

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    Not sure this relates to 2007 FIBA at all, but it's about international bball and I found it rather interesting. Basically it's about Luol Deng and possibly others with Great Britian ties playing for them largely to get a British passport.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/spo...ll/6950315.stm
    I believe Ben Gordon is a British citizen as well - could be an interesting squad they put together there. Don't wanna forget Joel Freeland either.

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    I'm surprised that Stoudamire, Howard, and Chandler are the only big guys. If two of them get in foul trouble, Team USA is gonna struggle.
    lebron and carmello are probably considered 4s during international play.
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    lebron and carmello are probably considered 4s during international play.
    Which is why Argentina kept getting to the rim without a problem.

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    ESPN's preview: http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/...t&lid=tab1pos1
    Standard listing of which NBA players play for which teams, nothing special.

    Except that Nolan Richardson is coaching Mexico. Weird.

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    What are the chances we don't earn an Olympic berth this year?

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    What are the chances we don't earn an Olympic berth this year?
    Considering the top two teams from the Americas make it in, and the next few advance to a wild card bracket?

    Highly unlikely.

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    We'll almost certainly make it, I just don't think we'll necessarily win every game by 20.

    Us and Brazil maybe? Argentina's already in, they have no incentive.

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    Are these games going to be televised, and if so, on what channel?

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    ESPN 2

    the first two games are at 11PM, the 3rd will be at 3pm, the 4th will be 9pm.

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    the first two games are at 11PM, the 3rd will be at 3pm, the 4th will be 9pm.
    Great! Thanks, Kstat. I might be able to watch these depending on my work schedule.

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    It's listed on ESPNCL tonight for me, but ESPN2 tomorrow.

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    Anybody else watching the game?

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    Im watching it, really not much of a game though.

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    Yeah, USA is rooooooooooooollin'. This team is a ton better than the team in Greece. Much better ball movement.

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    Default Re: 2007 FIBA Olympic qualifiers thread

    Seems like everything is better. Defense, hustle, ball movement, overall communication. You can tell they have some chemistry. With that being said, how good is Venezuela though?

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    the team looks better because the talent is way better.

    The USA has brought their top PG, SG, SF and their best rebounder, as well as a host of their best role players.

    This is a grade-A team USA for the first time since 2000. If they bring this squad to Shanghai, they should win gold. This team is a cut above anybody the world can put together. You couldn't say that about the last few teams.
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    Anytime the United States national team plays, it should appear on regular cable TV so the whole nation can observe. This ESPN Classic stuff is just ridiculous. It's a real shame.

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    Can anyone find out when the Croatian national team plays its first internationally-televised game? I'd like for everyone to get a look at Stanko and share in my praise for BaracStar.

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    Anyone got a schedule for the coming games/dates/times/channels?

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    ESPN summary of the Venzuela game:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/...ory?id=2987531

    Does Stanko play for Croatia or Bosnia?

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