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    in the book "The Last Season" by Phil Jackson, it talks about the Minny vs LA game 7. this is what Phil Jackson has to say about Kareem "I am very proud of Kareem, In practice he went all out during 3 on 3 matches." " I played him extensive minutes in the 4'th for that exact reason but 2 questions still remained, 1. will he make the big shots, and 2. will he get the calls." "he is the second most athletic guy under Kobe on this team" (which i remind you had Gary Payton). It mentions that at first he didn't take basketball seriously and that his brother (former UCLA star JaRon Rush who failed to make it into the league) lived in his house and started to distract him. Hopefully that is over with. I like Kareem and I hope he learned some things from Kobe. I expect him to be playing in clutch situations. I hope to see some good dunks too. Does anyone else think he might become a starter by the all star break??
    Or will he be the underachiever who got waived by Charolette??
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    I actually have high hopes for Kareem. Maybe I shouldn't. I don't know. I have just always loved the guy. This is definitely the ideal fit for him. I don't know on how many other teams he could legitimately start right now but here it's a definite possibility and he's in a very shooter-friendly offense. There's no reason why he won't be able to average at least double-figures this year.

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    I'm glad we signed him... I would imagine after quite a bit of time of not being in the league, he's humbled a little bit and will look to make an impression being on this team.

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    I thought this thread was about Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, and Neil Peart!

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    It really wouldn't matter. If he sucks he gets cut after this season. If he excels then he jumps ship. I am simply not a fan of short-term stop gap players unless you are contending. That's just me.

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    It might not be all that big of an achievement for Kareem to reach starter status for the Pacers this season by the All Star break.

    When you look at the depth chart, plus consider injury history in front of him, and then realize we could also be experimenting due to the team looking for a spark... it's just not that big of a leap having him potentially reach the starting 5.

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    It really wouldn't matter. If he sucks he gets cut after this season. If he excels then he jumps ship. I am simply not a fan of short-term stop gap players unless you are contending. That's just me.
    I kind of wish that we would have signed for three years with a team option or something similar.

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    I kind of wish that we would have signed for three years with a team option or something similar.
    i agree... that's why i am not all that thrilled with the Diener signing either. if we're going to invest on these kids, might as well set it up to work for us... unless of course they're just temporary stop gap measures. to me that's a waste of time unless you are contending. just look at Maceo.

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    i agree... that's why i am not all that thrilled with the Diener signing either. if we're going to invest on these kids, might as well set it up to work for us... unless of course they're just temporary stop gap measures. to me that's a waste of time unless you are contending. just look at Maceo.
    Well, I feel like we kind of let Baston go. Even the Diener signing is not bad...though you kind of wish that last year wasn't player option...

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    C'mon guys, I don't think we'd be happy with Rush's contract either way. A lot of people were ****ed at the signing anyway, could you imagine the reaction of "Kareem Rush signs three-year deal with Indiana Pacers"?

    I think the problem is with the way Bird Rights are established, not neccessarily the signing itself. I think Bird Rights should start at season one, especially since they restructured how long the deals are. 3 years for Bird Rights isn't long when guys are regularly signing 7-year deals. When most guys are getting 4-5 year deals, committing 3 to a guy who might be a bust is a huge risk.

    Back on topic, however, I think Rush can have an impact. If we're struggling to hit those wide-open threes, I think he can even start. I suppose it just depends on how Tinsley and Daniels are going to be utilized.

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    I have high hopes for Kareem. I actually wished the Pacers would have drafted him. He could have benefited greatly playing behind Reg for a few years, and Freddy didn't have his size. I know he was a top scorer for the Bobcats so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him become a 10-15pt scorer right away.
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    One thing Rush has going for him is that he is the only true pure shooting guard/2 on the squad.

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    One thing Rush has going for him is that he is the only true pure shooting guard/2 on the squad.
    I expect him to start, but play less than 30 mpg, for that very reason. He may be a good on-court compliment to JO, which is more important than the so-called negatives.
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    I thought this thread was about Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, and Neil Peart!

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    Well, that would have been sweet. But I'd rather listen to them than read about them. Greatest Canadian rock band ever!

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    Well, that would have been sweet. But I'd rather listen to them than read about them. Greatest Canadian rock band ever!
    Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmmaybe you forgot about these guys...

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    Will Rush get the starting 2-Guard role? Well, that all depends on if mgmt pushes the "pay scale" angle over talent or vice versa.

    I expect JOB will take a real hard look at player's skills and try to determine which players work well together and which do not per his offensive scheme. Kinda goes w/o saying, but sometimes as fans we tend to want what we want and not see the big overall picture, i.e., I know there are 5 very good players on the roster, but do they work well together? And even if they do, are they doing what I want them to do as a team (unit of 5)?

    My philosophy is simple: If you have 5 very good "position" players and they buy into your system, those five get to represent the team as starters. Still, it takes time to properly evaluate that talent and determine if that unit cohensiveness is truly there.

    Do I expect Rush will be a starter? It's very possible, but I suspect MDjr will get the knod first w/Quis coming off the bench and Rush getting those clutch minutes to close the half and/or the 4th. Is that ideal for him? No, but unless MDjr doesn't come through o Quis sustains yet another injury, I don't see him being a starter just yet...just a clutch shooter at this point which would serve the team very well.

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    Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmmaybe you forgot about these guys...
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    Well, that would have been sweet. But I'd rather listen to them than read about them. Greatest Canadian rock band ever!
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    Greatest Canadian rock band ever!
    Ummm....No.


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    I'd like to see Daniels and Rush play their butts off all season long to earn each others minutes.

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    "The Band" sucks. For one, you have to be pretentious ******** just to call yourself "The Band" - like you are the one and only. Secondly, and some would say most importantly, they're Canadian-AMERICAN, not citizens of Canada, from Canada like the members of Rush. Lastly, the first CD I ever obtained was a Christmas gift from my dad, and it was "The Best of The Band" - I had never heard of them (I was 11) and, needless to say, I was far from pleased.

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