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    Assuming that the team enters the season in its current shape, how do you think the starting lineup should look like and how do you think it would work. As in what situations we might see in the games and what kind of ball would that group play...

    Mine is...

    Pg Jamaal Tinsley
    Sg Kareem Rush
    Sf Danny Granger
    Pf Jermaine Oneal
    C Troy Murphy

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    I really doubt that JOB starts Rush. He'll probably be between the 6th and 8th person off the bench. It will be some order of Quis/Dun/Rush off the bench, I just don't know what. It'll depend on the opposing team most likely.

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    My starting lineup:

    PG - Tinsley
    SG - Marquis
    SF - Granger
    PF - JONeal
    C - Murphy

    6th Man - Dunleavy

    After Dunleavy, whoever comes in is dependant on whether we need to rotate a Guard or Forward/Big Man:

    1st Guard off the bench - Kareem then Deiner
    1st Forward/Big Man off the bench - Ike, Shawne then Foster
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    PG: Tinsley
    SG: Rush
    SF: Granger
    PF: O'Neal
    C: Murphy
    6th Man: Dunleavy

    Here is my thing, we signed two very good shooters in Rush and Diener which we do need. But if we don't play em then why sign them? We need Rush's shooting in the starting lineup because without him all we have is Murphy as far as shooters go and this is assuming we start him and not Foster.

    Dunleavy may or may not do well as the 6th man IDK for sure. I'd try him there though. Hopefully he would excel there.

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    I am very curious to see how MDJ and Granger's shots have developed. I would definitely not be opposed to starting Rush. It's just a disaster not to have a shooter out there in O'Brien system.

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    pg tinsley
    sg dunleavey
    sf granger
    pf o'neal
    c foster

    i think foster is better suited for the pacers now that they are going to run

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    It probably would be better to start Rush instead of Mike, but then again if Mike has improved his 3 point shot, then you probably need to start him, even out of position.

    Tinsley/Diener/Daniels
    Dunleavy/Daniels/Rush
    Granger/Williams/Dunleavy/Daniels
    Murphy/Williams/Foster
    O'Neal/Diogu/Foster

    Top 8:
    O'Neal
    Granger
    Tinsley
    Dunleavy
    Murphy
    Daniels
    Diener
    Rush

    I have no idea how our two new guys will get time AND find room for Daniels, Williams, Diogu, and Foster.

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    Pg Marquis Daniels
    Sg Kareem Rush
    Sf Danny Granger
    Pf Ike Diogu
    C Jermaine O'neal

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    i took it a bit further and worked out rotation and minutes as well. imo:

    PG - tinsley (30min) / daniels (10 min) / diener (<10 min) / owens (0 min)
    SG - dunleavy (20 min) / daniels (20 min) / rush (<10 min)
    SF - granger (35 min) / dunleavy (10 min) / graham (<5 min)
    PF - murphy (30 min) / williams (15 min) / foster (<5 min)
    C - o'neal (35 min) / diogu (10 min) / harrison (<5 min)

    for reference, the minutes distribution last season was:

    o'neal 35.6 mpg in 69 games
    dunleavy 35.6 mpg in 43 games
    granger 34.0 mpg in 82 games
    tinsley 31.2 mpg in 72 games
    murphy 28.2 mpg in 42 games
    foster 23.2 mpg in 75 games
    daniels 17.8 mpg in 45 games
    diogu 12.8 mpg in 42 games
    williams 12.1 mpg in 46 games
    harrison 7.9 mpg in 24 games

    the actual mpg's have some overlap due to injuries, and the trade messes things up as well. still, it's a useful baseline.

    the only major minutes guy not returning (probably) is armstrong's 15.7 mpg in 81 games, which in my projection is mostly going to daniels in his dual backup sg/pg role. foster's 23 mpg dwindles to almost nothing in my projection because i allocated his minutes to ike and shawne instead. obviously i don't think foster is going to fit into obie's scheme...

    i actually think that both rush and diener will have trouble getting minutes if everyone is healthy - but with the injury history of daniels and tinsley, odds are good that both rush and diener will get their chances.

    btw, the roster as is still makes me think "trade". too many of our better players are forwards.

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    If your asking who we think will start I will say this.

    Tinsley
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    O'Neal
    Murphy

    If your asking me who I would want to start?

    Diener
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    Williams
    Diogu


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    If your asking who we think will start I will say this.

    Tinsley
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    O'Neal
    Murphy

    If your asking me who I would want to start?

    Diener
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    Williams
    Diogu
    If JO is on the team you would honestly start Williams and Diogu over him?

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    If JO is on the team you would honestly start Williams and Diogu over him?
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    Default Re: 07-08 starting lineup

    I really don't see how a healthy Jeff Foster isn't in the starting lineup. O'Brien has already stated an emphasis on rebounding, so why wouldn't our best rebounder be in the starting 5?

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    Starting lineups often are driven by who gets paid the most IMO. Like it or not, whether JOb or RC is coaching, this is who takes the floor first:

    Tinsley
    Quis or MDJ (I suspect Quis)
    Granger
    JO
    Murphy

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    Center---Murphy/Foster
    Power Forward-Oneal/Diogu/Shawne
    Small Forward--Granger/Shawne/Dunleavy
    Shooting Guard--Dunleavy/Rush/Marquis
    Point Guard--Tinsley/Diener/Marquis

    It seems that Marquis is the odd man out as he is the weakest long range
    shooter. But maybe his slashing ability will really be useful if eveyone else is rotating around to get an open three which then allows him to drive and finish
    around the basket. He the best on the Pacers at doing that.
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    [quote=Peck;580786]If your asking who we think will start I will say this.

    Tinsley
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    O'Neal
    Murphy

    If your asking me who I would want to start?

    Diener
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    Williams
    Diogu[
    /quote]
    I'd be shocked if this line-up beat any team in the NBA, let alone got to .500. You've got only three guys playing out of position here and only one who has shown any kind of defensive consistency. Please tell me that you just want Eric Gordon that badly. Please tell me that's the reason for this magical lineup.

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    I really have no idea - I really don't. I'll let you know in about 60 days

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    PG: Tinsley
    SG: Rush
    SF: Granger
    PF: Murphy
    C: Oneal

    This seems to make the most sense in Obriens system, You have two players who specialize in three pointers on the floor and one who can probably hit them when he needs to (granger). Oneal in the middle as the post player.

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    PG: Tinsley
    SG: Rush
    SF: Granger
    PF: Murphy
    C: Oneal

    This seems to make the most sense in Obriens system, You have two players who specialize in three pointers on the floor and one who can probably hit them when he needs to (granger). Oneal in the middle as the post player.
    If that truly is the starting lineup. Maybe I'll just not watch the first 6 or 7 minutes of each half because I'll be begging the reserves to come in

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    If your asking who we think will start I will say this.

    Tinsley
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    O'Neal
    Murphy

    If your asking me who I would want to start?

    Diener
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    Williams
    Diogu
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    I think the rotation will look like this:

    G - Tinsley, Rush, Daniels
    F - Dunleavy, Granger, Murphy
    C - O'Neal, Diogu
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    I think the rotation will look like this:

    G - Tinsley, Rush, Daniels
    F - Dunleavy, Granger, Murphy
    C - O'Neal, Diogu
    I know you must just keep forgetting, or maybe your keyboard simply can't type the word FOSTER, but Jeff is still on the team.

    Actually, I tend to agree with you to some extent, as I said at the forum party a week ago, I think jeff will get fewer minutes under O'Brien - simply because Jeff, Ike and JO will be playing center only and OB will never have two of those three on the court at the same time. He wants an outside shooter at power forward.

    Although Jeff usually finds a way to get minutes, somehow

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    PG - Tinsley
    SG - Daniels
    SF - Williams
    PF - Granger
    C - O'Neal

    This will get the game started. Our guys will start by getting to the basket and this also gives us a quick defensive unit. Then the reserves can come in and bomb away as they please. It's hard to say though. This is the first time I looked at the team as it is and projected the starters. After looking at it, I'm pretty happy with a lot of the players we have as long as they can gel on the court. The question is, have we gotten that guy that will speak up and lead (besides J.O.)? The knock on the team from Carlisle is that they were all too quiet. They all got along and had good chemistry, but there was little emotion. Who's bringing the emotion? Have we addressed that issue yet?

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    I hadn't thought about that before: Make Danny a 4 again.

    Tinsley
    Rush
    Dunleavy
    Granger
    O'Neal

    3 shooting threats, Dunleavy at his natural position. I kind of like it, though I'd worry about post D. Although with Danny and JO that's smaller, but two guys who can block shots and I think Danny will look better defensively close to the basket (as opposed to chasing people around outside), while I'd worry about posting him up (he is a pretty tough guy though and he looked good as a 4 as a rookie).

    I dunno. I kind of like it, but I need to see it work defensively.

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    I know you must just keep forgetting, or maybe your keyboard simply can't type the word FOSTER, but Jeff is still on the team.
    I don't know who he is.

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