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    Default Corey Simon saga continues

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...41/1247/SPORTS

    He's been paid 14 million by the Colts and played in 13 games...incredible.

    However this is by far the worst move BP has made, and really it could be much much worse and BP is generally a genius, so I'm not complaining too much.

    I am still unsure why there is such sour grapes between Simon and the Colts organization. Weird, confusing situation.

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    Yeah, the whole Simon deal has been bizarre. And it looks like it's about to get even stranger.

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    Lol, get used to it. He was an huge disappointment in Philly. Why do you think we let him go. Hes often injured and always out of shape. Do yourselves a favor and cut him.

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    Now BSpn reporting that Simon has not been activated. Who needs the theatricality of staged drama, when we have the Corey Simon story to follow:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2935774

    Despite published reports to the contrary, the Indianapolis Colts have not moved defensive tackle Corey Simon to their active roster, and the seven-year veteran, who missed the entire 2006 season, remains on the NFL's physically unable to perform list.


    Several media outlets reported Friday that Simon was moved from the PUP list, where he spent all last season with what the Colts reported was a case of polyarthritis. But a league spokesman said that Simon was still on the PUP list and that a notation on the NFL.com site, indicating that he had been activated, was actually a clerical error. . .

    Simon said earlier this spring that he continues to rehabilitate and that he hopes to resume his career. There are three years remaining on his contract with Indianapolis, at base salaries of $3.955 million (2007), $5 million (2008) and $5 million (2009).
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    I thought most contracts in the NFL were not guaranteed, so why can't they just cut him.
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    I thought most contracts in the NFL were not guaranteed, so why can't they just cut him.
    Because there would still be a salary cap penalty.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2935774

    Turns out the whole mess was a clerical error, if this whole situation couldn't have gotten weirder.

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    BP deserved better than this from this guy. Like I said before, if they are forced to keep him or pay his salary he would be cleaning toilets in the Colts complex to earn it.
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    I think Corey Simon isn't to blame for this one so it really isn't fair to say that Polian "deserved better" from this guy - if what has been reported really is true, and that he does have a rheumatory condition, its not an ailment that Simon could have prevented.
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    I thought most contracts in the NFL were not guaranteed, so why can't they just cut him.
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it works like this.

    Every year in the contract there is general contract money earned, and bonus money earned. If the bonus money owed for the remaining contract time is more than the current contract, then it's a negative impact on the salary cap. Here's an example.


    Say this is the remaining contract for a player.

    Year 1 - $2 million in salary ($1 million in bonus)

    Year 2 - $2.5 mil in salary ($1 million in bonus)

    Year 3 - $3 mil in salary ($1 million in bonus)

    Year 4 - 4 mil in salary ($1 mil in bonus)

    ===

    So if you cut him in year one, where his total salary is 2 million, you must pay ALL of the bonus pay for year 1, 2, 3, and 4. Which is a total of $4 million in bonus pay. His base salary is 2 million, so you'd actually LOSE $2 million in cap space for cutting that player in that year.

    If you cut him in year 3 however, you owe the bonus money for year 3, and 4. A total of $2 million. Since his salary is $3 million in salary total for year three, you'd actually gain $1 million in cap space for cutting that player.

    This, is the reason players insist on bonus money, and as much as possible. It makes it so you're guaranteed to be on the roster as long as possible to gain more of that "non guaranteed" money.

    Make sense? I hope I explained it well.

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    I think Corey Simon isn't to blame for this one so it really isn't fair to say that Polian "deserved better" from this guy - if what has been reported really is true, and that he does have a rheumatory condition, its not an ailment that Simon could have prevented.
    He is responsible for filing a grievance for ALL THE MONEY. For what?
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    Trust me Corey Simon is to blame. The man never got himself into shape which is why he is always hurt. He is the one to blame.

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    Trust me Corey Simon is to blame. The man never got himself into shape which is why he is always hurt. He is the one to blame.
    We knew that when we signed him though. And considering his injury was non football related its not really fair to blame it on him like that. What he is to blame for is wanting his money for not even playing. The grievance is BS

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    Thanks for the NFL salary education. Heck, the NBA's salary cap is easy compared to the NFL's mess.
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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/train...3fid%3d2935537

    This guy seems to be under the impression that Simon is going to return to the team. Did I miss something? If this is true and Simon can return to some form of his former self, our Run D should get a little bit of a pick me up.

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    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...LOCAL/70727033

    And it continues ...

    Defensive tackle Corey Simon, who missed the Indianapolis Colts’ Super Bowl season with a knee injury and an undisclosed illness, is expected to report to Terre Haute on Sunday for the start of training camp.

    “He’s planning on showing up,’’ Roosevelt Barnes, Simon’s agent, said today. “He’s in shape. He’s ready to play football, hopefully for the Colts.’’

    Simon’s status with the team has been in question since he was placed on the NFL’s non-football illness/injury list last October. He underwent knee surgery in August, then was placed on the season-ending list reportedly with polyarthritis.

    Simon was not present with other inactive Colts during the week leading up to their Super Bowl win over Chicago in Miami, and was not invited to the Super Bowl ring ceremony in June.

    The Colts originally signed Simon to a five-year, $30 million contract prior to the 2005 season. He started 13 regular-season games, totaling 41 tackles.

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    Apparently Simons has been conditioning full tilt and it appears he's headed to Terre Haute. Is there any reason the Colt's would let him come to camp just to cut him? If he is coming in shape wouldn't they wait to see if he is really serious about playing for them before making any decision, unless there is too much water under the bridge (lots of other good Colt's info here as well):
    http://www.tribstar.com/colts/local_...207215438.html

    • Simon working out — Defensive tackle Corey Simon, who missed the 2006 season after suffering a knee injury during training camp and then developing a mysterious illness, has been working out with nationally-recognized conditioning expert Tom Shaw this summer.

    Shaw, a former strength and conditioning coach for the New England Patriots, runs annual pre-training camp workouts for NFL players at Disney's Wide World of Sports Complex in Lake Buena Vista, Fla.

    The question remains, however, as to whether Simon will continue to remain with the Colts, or even report, when training camp begins. Indianapolis officials and Simon filed grievances against one other with the NFLPA this past spring concerning his salary from last season.

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    If he comes to camp actually in shape, they better not just outright cut him. At least give him a chance.

    Hopefully both sides realize they have been petty and can put the past behind them, because if he is actually ready to play and is in shape, the Colts D just got some unexpected help.

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    If he comes to camp actually in shape, they better not just outright cut him. At least give him a chance.

    Hopefully both sides realize they have been petty and can put the past behind them, because if he is actually ready to play and is in shape, the Colts D just got some unexpected help.
    There is nothing petty about paying a guy 14 mil for 13 games.
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    There is nothing petty about paying a guy 14 mil for 13 games.
    Yeah but there is about not even recognizing the fact he exists, the week before the superbowl. And not even inviting him to the ring ceremony that accountants got invited too.

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    Yeah but there is about not even recognizing the fact he exists, the week before the superbowl. And not even inviting him to the ring ceremony that accountants got invited too.
    Well, truth be told, the accountants probably had more to do with the Colts Superbowl win than did Simon.

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    I look at it like this:

    If he does come in and is in shape and ready to go, great. I drool a little bit at the idea of seeing a D-Line with Freeney and Mathis on the outside blazing in and a tackle set-up of Simon and Booger stuffing the middle.

    If not, he comesin, we let him loose and we bring closure to the whole situation. .

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    I look at it like this:

    If he does come in and is in shape and ready to go, great. I drool a little bit at the idea of seeing a D-Line with Freeney and Mathis on the outside blazing in and a tackle set-up of Simon and Booger stuffing the middle.

    If not, he comesin, we let him loose and we bring closure to the whole situation. .
    I dont think Corey Simon ever came into camp in shape.

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    I hope he's in good shape and good spirits. Putting him next to Booger...oh boy would that be nice.

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    He failed his physical so I think he is done.

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