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    June 25, 2007 - 10:21 pm
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    The New York Times reports that the Knicks rejected at least one offer to move up into the top 10 selections of Thursday's NBA draft.
    The deal apparently would have included David Lee and another key player, possibly Jamal Crawford. The team willing to trade its lottery pick is not named.
    Wonder who the team could have been?

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    You're telling me there are people in this world who feel that the 3rd through 10th pick is worth David Lee and Jamal Crawford? Does proving you can actually do ANYTHING in this league mean nothing?

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    If it was 3, 4, or 5, they'd have said top-5. So it's 6-10.

    I'm guessing Chicago.
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    It would be interesting to see what Ike would get us.
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    Hm...After looking through the teams that have a top 10 pick, I can't see any of them giving up their pick for Lee and Crawford. Maybe Minny, if they thought they would be getting the #5 later. It still doesn't make much sense though.

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    If it was 3, 4, or 5, they'd have said top-5. So it's 6-10.

    I'm guessing Chicago.
    That was my first guess, but why would they want Crawford with Gordon and Hinrich? Maybe they don't think they'll be resigning Noc so they're trying to replace him with Lee?

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    Can't blame the Knicks.

    Crawford is a good scoring guard and Lee has been an excellant young forward for them.

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    Char. they are under the cap... wouldn't have to trade back anything more than their pick...
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    Have to actually applaud Isiah some, for not being a complete idiot.

    Does rise questions whom the other team was though. Only team that would sorta make sense to me is Charlotte. With Carroll a free agent, and not having many scoring options, I'm guess they would have brought in Crawford to play the 2 along side Felton. And since they were looking at Noah as that energy type beside Okafor, they could have seen David Lee as that type, and he's already shown he can play.

    So I would guess the bobcats

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    Chicago i dont see anyone beside them
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    Wonder who the team could have been?
    That team would have to be under the cap by $9 million or with New York being over the cap there would have to be players involved as well to make the salaries match. Roughly 8-9 million in player salary going back to the Knicks.

    You cant trade just draft picks for players when teams are over the cap because draft picks have no monetary value in a trade.

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    That team would have to be under the cap by $9 million or with New York being over the cap there would have to be players involved as well to make the salaries match. Roughly 8-9 million in player salary going back to the Knicks.

    You cant trade just draft picks for players when teams are over the cap because draft picks have no monetary value in a trade.
    Thus the bobcats...
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    Are the Bulls under the cap? I know they were last year before they signed Big Ben, but I'm not sure about their situation now.

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    Are the Bulls under the cap? I know they were last year before they signed Big Ben, but I'm not sure about their situation now.
    Yes the Bulls are another team far enough under the cap for that deal.

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    Yes the Bulls are another team far enough under the cap for that deal.
    Umm only if their FAs are considered off the books already (even then that's about 9 mil added on and I think that's even to much for them for next year)...

    I'm not sure how that works, if the FA's salary are already taken off, or if it's not till July 12th...
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    Umm only if their FAs are considered off the books already (even then that's about 9 mil added on and I think that's even to much for them for next year)...

    I'm not sure how that works, if the FA's salary are already taken off, or if it's not till July 12th...
    The Bulls should be at roughly $43 million once the expiring contracts are off the books because I certainly do not see them giving Sweetney a qualifying offer.

    Regardless, I would not give up Lee for anything outside the top 3 or 4 pics.

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    I don't think it's the Bulls ..... or do they really want Crawford back?

    It probably is Charlotte, who don't have a starting caliber SG in their current lineup.
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    I think it is the Bulls actually. Then they wouldn't feel as bad about trading their other guys (Gordon, Nocioni, maybe even Deng) for Kobe or KG (or in a three-way trade to acquire them).

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    The amount of value some of yall have for draft picks is astounding. You really think having a Number 7 pick in the draft is better than having two proven NBA starters---one of which is on his rookie deal still and the other who is signed for two more years at a very, very reasonable salary?

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    The amount of value some of yall have for draft picks is astounding. You really think having a Number 7 pick in the draft is better than having two proven NBA starters---one of which is on his rookie deal still and the other who is signed for two more years at a very, very reasonable salary?
    Actually, Crawford and Lee only started a combined 48 games last year, and those were due to injuries.
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    Actually, Crawford and Lee only started a combined 48 games last year, and those were due to injuries.
    Just because Zeke wouldn't start Lee over Frye for God knows why doesn't mean he isn't a starter. He's starter quality.

    Jamal was their "closer". He played most all of their significant minutes in the 4th and was essentially a "Manu" type for them off the bench. He should have started for them and would start for a lot of teams.

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    Atlanta. Who else would want Crawford. Bulls already had him and that didn't work the first time and there's only one ball. Atlanta needs scorers and someone who can rebound because the guys they have don't rebound.
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    Have to actually applaud Isiah some, for not being a complete idiot.

    Does rise questions whom the other team was though. Only team that would sorta make sense to me is Charlotte. With Carroll a free agent, and not having many scoring options, I'm guess they would have brought in Crawford to play the 2 along side Felton. And since they were looking at Noah as that energy type beside Okafor, they could have seen David Lee as that type, and he's already shown he can play.

    So I would guess the bobcats

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    Atlanta. Who else would want Crawford. Bulls already had him and that didn't work the first time and there's only one ball. Atlanta needs scorers and someone who can rebound because the guys they have don't rebound.
    they would have said top 5 for atlanta (as they have #3 and #11) charlotte makes the most sense. sacramento, maybe if they're moving bibby could slide crawford at the point (not that i would recommend such) since they have martin at the SG. milwaukee could be interested in lee if they're less than enthusiastic about charlie's 3minutes and 36seconds of injury-free basketball last season.

    ...or its just the knicks floating a rumor to the press to drive up the price on another deal... who knows?
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    That was my first guess, but why would they want Crawford with Gordon and Hinrich? Maybe they don't think they'll be resigning Noc so they're trying to replace him with Lee?
    If they wanted Crawford and Lee, maybe it's a sign they were planning to ship out Gordon and Nocioni.

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    The whole "they would have said "top 5 pick" thing assumes the media knows the team. If they knew the team, they would have said the team's name. The fact that they said the pick # means they weren't told the team. RealGM isn't in the business of knowing info and not telling it. Thus it could be any team in the top 10 and all the info they were given was "top 10 pick" rather than "team X".

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