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    Artest visits neighborhood center
    By Mike Wells
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    June 18, 2007




    Former Indiana Pacer Ron Artest spent about an hour talking with children at a local neighborhood center this afternoon.

    “It’s fun when you’re talking to the kids,” Artest said after walking around slapping hands with the 75 summer campers at Mary Rigg Neighborhood Center. “I wanted to get out and do something else this summer. I really enjoy doing it because it’s something I want to do after my career is over.”
    Artest, who spent four seasons with the Pacers before being traded to Sacramento in January 2006, had his publicist call community centers in the area to see if they’d be interested in having the former All-Star forward speak. He’s trying to do the same thing in Sacramento, Chicago and his hometown of New York.

    Artest’s spoke about the importance of education, family values and staying out of trouble. He was suspended in school every year from kindergarten to sixth grade and had to sit out the first 15 games his freshman year of high school because of poor grades. Artest held off all questions about basketball until the end.

    “Outside of family and God, education is the most important thing,” he told the campers. “... I still make mistakes, but rather than put my head down, I try to get better the next day.”

    Artest concluded the day by signing autographs.

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    Artest concluded the day by signing autographs.
    Did he also buy back old jerseys?

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    Did he also buy back old jerseys?
    How about Allure CDs?

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    How about Allure CDs?
    Nobody bought one of those in the first place, so it would be impossible to buy them back.
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    [sarcasm]Could this mean Artest is coming back to Indiana, first his work-out and now this[/end sarcasm].
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    Just who I would want speaking to my kid...

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    Nobody bought one of those in the first place, so it would be impossible to buy them back.
    At least 300 people did. And I...they would like their money back.

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    At least 300 people did. And I...they would like their money back.
    Wow, now I can say that I knew one of the 300 that purchased a CD. Hey, I still got my "Tru Warier" lip balm. Not bad stuff!
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    [sarcasm]Could this mean Artest is coming back to Indiana, first his work-out and now this[/end sarcasm].
    Welp, he likely won't ever wear a Pacers uniform again, but according to the news tonight, he and his family are setting up a permanent home in Zionsville.

    Kinda weird, eh? Perhaps he feels as if he can get away with manhandling his wife or his dog a little more easily out there... grumble.

    I feel bad to be so down on Artest, but jesus the guy just screwed this team/city over in the biggest way.

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    Wow, now I can say that I knew one of the 300 that purchased a CD. Hey, I still got my "Tru Warier" lip balm. Not bad stuff!

    I stole it from the internet... does that count?

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    Welp, he likely won't ever wear a Pacers uniform again, but according to the news tonight, he and his family are setting up a permanent home in Zionsville.

    Kinda weird, eh? Perhaps he feels as if he can get away with manhandling his wife or his dog a little more easily out there... grumble.

    I feel bad to be so down on Artest, but jesus the guy just screwed this team/city over in the biggest way.
    or he's just looking for more tv time to promote his label... i mean LA has media, but in indiana he can easily reach the redneck demo by appearing on COPS once a month... smart move actually, i take all of my promotional advice from ronnie dobbs.
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    I think you guys are getting your Allure and Ron's solo album confused. While neither album sold much, it was his solo album that got all the press for only selling 300 or so copies from the get-go. I'm sure all of the added press he received from news outlets like MSNBC covering his weak album sales have boosted the number by now. I bought one and it's not even the worst album I own. In fact, I was a little disappointed to find "real" rappers as guests, professional production quality and that it's just as good as many of the other rap albums I own. I was expecting it to be funny and completely terrible but in reality it's not.

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    From Tuesdays Star:

    Artest regrets how Pacers tenure ended
    Despite memories of a tumultuous time, he continues to live in Indianapolis area

    By Mark Montieth
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    In all ways but one, it's like Ron Artest never left the Indiana Pacers.

    He's living in his Zionsville home with his wife, children and extended family, with plans to buy more surrounding homes and land and make it his permanent base. His kids are enrolled in various camps and will attend school here in the fall. He's working out at Conseco Fieldhouse and other area facilities and getting together with the Indiana Pacers' former conditioning coach. He's taking his family to Indiana Fever games. He's speaking at local youth organizations, such as he did on Monday at the Mary Rigg Neighborhood Center on the city's near Westside.
    "Hopefully I'll retire here," he said, sitting at the head of the glass dining room table in his home. "We like it here."
    Artest isn't a Pacer, however. And while he is clear in expressing his respect for the Sacramento Kings' organization and his desire to remain with their team, he can't help but agonize a bit over his display of frustration.
    "I reacted a little too fast," he said of his trade request in December 2005. "If I hadn't done that, I'd still be a Pacer now."
    Artest was reacting to a home loss to Dallas, his irritation with coach Rick Carlisle's offense, a hand injury, a bogus trade rumor published in the Sacramento Bee, and, most of all, the cloud that had followed him since his 72-game suspension for his role in the brawl at the Palace of Auburn Hills in November 2004.
    Already people were speculating about his return to the scene of his life-altering experience at the Palace, still 10 weeks away. That was nagging at his psyche, too.
    "I was under a lot of pressure," he said. "I didn't want to go back to Detroit and play in an Indiana jersey. I was under a lot of pressure because that was so crucial in my life. That almost ended my career."
    With the clarity of hindsight, he wishes he had stuck it out. He was playing for a title contender, was comfortable in the city and, despite his disagreement with Carlisle's offensive approach, was in a system in which he flourished. He was an All-Star and the Defensive Player of the Year in 2004, when the Pacers won 61 games, and was playing at the highest level of his career in his seven games before the brawl.
    "You know what?" he said. "As frustrated as I was at times playing for Rick . . . I like playing for the Kings, but I wish I was still playing for Rick. Nothing is going to go perfect in anybody's career. Certain guys in the league are mentally tough and always ready. But certain guys like me, because of how I grew up, I act out at times. Then you think about it and say, 'Man, I wish I would have gone about that differently.'"It's almost like saying you wish you grew up differently. When you grow up like I did, you think that every day, every second is a life-or-death situation, but it's not so. If I could do it again, I would never (have given up on) that team.
    "I had no reason to complain. I had a career year under Carlisle. What was I complaining about? When I look back on it, it was just stupid. Your ego takes over you sometimes."
    His tumultuous experiences with the Pacers have convinced Artest not to give up his current team, either. The Kings are coming off a losing season and he's facing punishment related to an incident in his home outside of Sacramento on March 5. He hears more trade rumors but isn't looking for another escape route.
    "The team I'm on now, I'll stick with it," he said.
    Rather than go to court over the misdemeanor charges filed by the prosecutor, he has accepted a judge's order of 100 hours of community service, a 10-day work project and extensive anger management counseling.
    He's serving his work project with the Sacramento sanitation department, emptying garbage trucks at the central facility.
    "You respect the sanitation worker more," he said. "Oh, my goodness, some of the stuff that comes out in that garbage."
    Artest has two years remaining on his contract, but can opt out after this season.
    He has backed off his music career, treating it more like a hobby than an offseason profession. He has turned down endorsement opportunities and is granting fewer media interviews.
    As he goes around the city, most people greet him favorably. Some ask when he's coming back to play for the Pacers.
    He doesn't have an answer, but doesn't rule out the possibility if the franchise wanted him.
    "My first choice is Sacramento," he said. "But I wouldn't have a problem coming back to Indiana."
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    Because I remember that every off season Ron said the right words, I call on this. I've been on verge of saying that I could see him coming back under the right circumstances...but then the still sane side of me remembers the comments similar to this. The article did make me question whether we were being "preped" for a possible return. But look at the DW/LB side of the coin. How would they look if after being *****-slapped by this guy for so long they took him back....and he did it again!


    So I'm glad he and his family like it here and have no problem with him talking to my kids (serving community service???) I just don't see him coming back.
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    I know people love to pile on, but isn't this the positive side of the coin that is Ron? Why deny it anymore than denying his problems.

    He wants to be a good guy, I think he always has. He's not very consistant about it, but when he's "on" he clearly is pretty nice and community friendly. A friend of ours had their kid in the same community center that his kids went to at one point and apparently everyone there was very pleased with their interactions with him. Regular nice guy.

    But certain guys like me, because of how I grew up, I act out at times. Then you think about it and say, 'Man, I wish I would have gone about that differently.'
    I have zero doubt this is exactly true. The key is that the regrets keep coming. In film and literature this is makes for great dramatic tension commenting on the human condition, classic tragic figure repeating the same self-destructive behavior despite otherwise being a good guy. He figures it out just about the time it's too late to fix it.

    For basketball this makes for F'd up seasons.

    But since he's NOT on the Pacers what's the harm in the guy trying to get back to doing the right things. I do think "community service" is probably correct though, he did just get sentenced for hitting his wife (was it his wife?) in that fight they had. Whatever, some kids got the benefit from it.

    "You know what?" he said. "As frustrated as I was at times playing for Rick . . . I like playing for the Kings, but I wish I was still playing for Rick.
    Yet another player that "hates" Rick, goes hand in hand with Croshere's positive comments a few years ago and Jackson's hug for Rick in his return game.

    Maybe Rick goes to Seattle and Ron gets traded there to pair with Durant and Allen. That could drastic improve that team in a hury, that's for sure.


    The article did make me question whether we were being "preped" for a possible return.
    I thought that too (probably we all did) but then you realize it's the NBA off-season with no pick (yet), he's an NBA star making the rounds, and his presence in Indy would be news no matter what. Even if he just won a title with Sacto, was getting more money than the Pacers could ever pay, and signed in blood to stay with the Kings forever, his presence in this city would be news.
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