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    This would contradict absolutely everything we've been hearing. I don't have any sources, but I can say that the last time Walsh traded an all-star big man (Dale Davis), he got a young High schooler gone pro (JO)....I expect him to do do the same in any deal now. Trading for Odom, #19, and Kwame isn't going to drastically improve this franchise the way we need to if we trade a player like JO.
    Correction: The last time Walsh traded an all-star big man was Brad Miller, and he basically got a piece of crap in return (not a young high schooler gone pro with potential)

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    FWIW... i see murphy being included before tinsley. because murphy could actually serve a purpose for them. tinsley, while they need a PG, probably can't run the triangle.
    That's my hope.

    If we deal JO, I'd much rather send Murphy than Tinsley. That would make the GS deal a bit easier to swallow, IMO.

    JO, Al, Jack, Runi, and Powell for Odom, Bynum, Diogu, Dunleavy, cap space, and the #19 pick doesn't look so bad.

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    Correction: The last time Walsh traded an all-star big man was Brad Miller, and he basically got a piece of crap in return (not a young high schooler gone pro with potential)
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    Let it go, man. The guy admits that he has no sources in the Indy front office, and this is coming out of LA. That's a reasonable position for LA: they want to hold on to Bynum. But it's not going to get a deal done.

    The deal won't go down as presented in this thread. Bank it.
    Agreed.

    dd00's source has been off for a while, it seems. Even Vecsey is off a lot, too. There's really no 'inside source' regarding that Pacers that I trust anymore.

    But, when/if this Lakers deal goes down, I wouldn't be surprised to see us come out of it fairly well. I'm hoping we weasel Bynum, Farmar, and the 19 out of them.
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    I think everyone needs to calm down. It's not as if DD00 predictions have been the gospel. If they were, wouldn't Odom have been here like a year and a half ago?

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    I'm gonna LMAO when it turns out that EVERYONE'S sources on this deal were wrong.
    ..and when we find out that all the soucres are simply posters on the other team's fan forums.

    Over at Lakersground.net there is an "indy_dave" telling the Laker fans that the Pacers have five offers for JO. One being the Laker offer, others from NY, NJ, Boston and I don't remember the fifth offer.

    Seems to be a lot of BSing going on just to get reactions.

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    I think everyone needs to calm down. It's not as if DD00 predictions have been the gospel.
    Agreed at the end of the day Bynum will be in the deal and all will be fine.
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    Correction: The last time Walsh traded an all-star big man was Brad Miller, and he basically got a piece of crap in return (not a young high schooler gone pro with potential)
    This is technically true, but you also have to remember that it was a S&T, we clearly had no leverage as teams knew we couldn't afford to resign Miller (in the same offseason as JO and Reggie), and that's why we got crap in return. With JO, we have the leverage right now. With Dale, we did too.

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    Source here says to best of his knowledge Bynum is a must. Says before Walsh had let it be known Bynum or no deal .

    Harrison and Foster are the most likely Pacers aside from JO to be moved.

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    Ok, that sounds better.

    JO/Foster/Harrison for Bynum/Odom/Kwame/Vujacic/#19 I can live with.
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    There is no disclosure in this. if Bynum is not going out which is a 00.4 chance then that means getting rid of Tinsley is worth more then getting Bynum back.

    DD thats correct right?
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    Ok, that sounds better.

    JO/Foster/Harrison for Bynum/Odom/Kwame/Vujacic/#19 I can live with.
    I can't...meaning I would die. Suicide, probably. Maybe a heart attack.
    JO/Murphy for Bynum/Odum/#19/anyone else.
    I would even take Vladmir.


    Tinsley is not to the point where we need to trade him a la Stephen Jackson. Was Stephen Jackson even at that point? I dunno. I never hear the home crowd. But I assume they don't boo JT every time he misses, is introduced, etc.
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    I personally heard it through rumors, that's why I never really post the rumors I hear. I have a fraternity bro who works with the Pacers. He's not deep in the organization, but does work most home games, and travels with the team every now and then when they're on the road.
    I was asking DaSmash about his comment about "what was on the table".

    It's unclear to me if his comment was based off of "information from a source"...or if its based off of what "rumors that we have heard from AP/blogs/articles.
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    And weren't the problems all Rick's fault anyway? Why change coaches AND rebuild the roster at the same time. That makes no sense. How can TPTB think Rick failed them AND think they need to rebuild the roster too?

    A trade like this (which would be terrible) where you are apparently dumping Tinsley says to me that they don't think Rick was the reason Tinsley struggled. Either that or they are back to chasing the "anti-thug" crowd who don't buy tickets anyway.

    Well then, if it is ALL RC's fault TPTB can bring Sarunas back and have the All-Star PG they thought they had.
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    Well then, if it is ALL RC's fault TPTB can bring Sarunas back and have the All-Star PG they thought they had.
    Yay! And then Maceo will stay too!

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    Pacers have shopped Murphy and Dunleavy no interest in the least.

    Foster and Harrison being moved doesn't mean the Laker trade necassarily could be for expiring contract and/or picks.

    Tinsley interest around the league is minimal. Smashed the logic LA sources told me is getting rid of Tinsley was worth no Bynum , I find that hard to believe.

    Pacer writer Mike Wells says Odom is perfect fit here . At this point all bets are off.

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    When did Mile Wells say that DD?
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    as much as it's hard to believe...we are going to miss tinsley when we give him away for nothing.
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    Pacers have shopped Murphy and Dunleavy no interest in the least.
    That's not surprising.....Bird is the only guy willing to take them on.

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    Tinsley interest around the league is minimal.
    I'm confused here......are you saying that BECAUSE the interest in Tinsley is "minimal" that it contradicts what your source said about Tinsley being included in the deal?

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    Smashed the logic LA sources told me is getting rid of Tinsley was worth no Bynum , I find that hard to believe..
    I'm trying to make sense of what you are suggesting here. Are you suggesting that because there is little interest in Tinsley....that it disproves what your LA source told you about Bynum not being included?

    or

    Are you finding it hard to believe that the price for taking on Tinsley is Bynum remaining a Laker?

    Maybe because the sentence appears to be "fragmented"...I can't figure out what you're trying to say here.

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    Pacer writer Mike Wells says Odom is perfect fit here . At this point all bets are off.
    The problem is that this doesn't disprove that Bynum won't be included.
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    Source here says to best of his knowledge Bynum is a must. Says before Walsh had let it be known Bynum or no deal.
    I'm confused.

    Isn't that the opposite of what you just said?
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    I'm confused.

    Isn't that the opposite of what you just said?
    I think DiamondDave00 is referring to his sources in Indy...as opposed to his sources in LA.
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    I think DiamondDave00 is referring to his sources in Indy...as opposed to his sources in LA.
    I think he's hearing voices.

    Scary voices.

    I also think his story will be made into a very troubling movie thriller starring Bruce Willis.

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    No, Whitely is much, much worse. He doesn't even watch the freakin' games.
    Then how do you explain comments similar to and specifically the Gerald Wallace one?

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    wait...move JO...Move FOSTER AND HARRISON!? WHY!? WHAT THE HELL IS OUR FRONT OFFICE THINKING? Bynum better become shaq because they are really smoking rocks if they are moving pretty much our whole front line for this kid,.
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    Then how do you explain comments similar to and specifically the Gerald Wallace one?
    While the Gerald Wallace thing is ridiculous, Whitely has come up with some mind-numbing doozies in his day.

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