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    I'm not underrating Foster. He is what he is: the first big off the bench on a typical contending team.
    This I can agree with. But considering how few legitmate contenders there are right now and how slim the talent level is at the 5 position in the NBA today, Foster could be a starter on many teams (like he is here). This is why I think Foster could fetch us a pick in the 20's.

    And for the record, I dont think the Pacers should trade Foster for a pick unless its an absolute steal, I'm talking 15 or lower.

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    Matter of fact, the more I think about a guy that can't make a lay-up (Foster) costing TWO first round picks, the sicker I get.
    I'd much rather have Foster than Vonteego Cummings and Troy Murphy.
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    I'd much rather have Foster than Vonteego Cummings and Troy Murphy.
    then you my friend know nothing about basketball
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    I'd much rather have Foster than Vonteego Cummings and Troy Murphy.
    of course, you could have hypothetically drafted Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker with those same picks...

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    I'd much rather have Foster than Vonteego Cummings and Troy Murphy.
    Hey now, I'm not saying I would prefer Cummings. I'm not THAT crazy! The Pacers selected Cummings (for GS, if I remember right) as a part of the pre-agreed to deal.

    Just ask yourself this - Is Jeff Foster worth TWO first round picks? Heck no.

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    Just ask yourself this - Is Jeff Foster worth TWO first round picks?
    A 20th and 27th, if I remember correctly.

    If my memory DOES turn out to be correct, then the answer would be yes. Foster was definitely worth the 20th and 27th pick.
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    I'd guess Foster would bring you a pick between 35-45 -don't see any team giving up a #1 plus they'd need a 5mil + salary slot.

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    A 20th and 27th, if I remember correctly.

    If my memory DOES turn out to be correct, then the answer would be yes. Foster was definitely worth the 20th and 27th pick.
    Actually, a 14 and a 26.

    Also, the pick we gave up for Tinsley was a 21 and turned into Boris Diaw.

    And the pick we gave up for Tom Owens was a 2 and turned into Sam Bowie. So, of course, we didn't lose anything there.
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    Ok Y2J is obviously delusional, but the rest of you are seriously underestimating the value of a player like Foster and overestimating the value of draft picks (which like UB said is common around this time of the year). Saying you couldnt get anything better than a 40 or so for Foster is insane. Most players picked that high are worthless and are out of the league in 1 or 2 seasons. Even mid-20s picks arent guaranteed to turn out to be as good as Foster. Danny Granger was a steal at 16, not the standard, think about that.
    No way I'd trade a first round pick for someone with the injury history that Jeff has. As far as I'm concerned it's a miracle he played as much as he did last year.

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    And the pick we gave up for Tom Owens was a 2 and turned into Sam Bowie. So, of course, we didn't lose anything there.
    Ps would have been smart enough to take Jordan tho right?
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    Okay I know Jeff Foster is a fan favorite but I'd see if the Spurs would like to acquire the home town boy. For pick #28 and Brent Barry.

    If the Pacers are rebuilding it clears Foster's contract one year sooner as Barry has one year at 5.5 mil left on his contract. If Bynum is acquired from the Lakers clears more playing time for Bynum and Diogu.

    No one will take Murphy's deal . If Kwame Brown is accepted by Walsh/Bird in the Laker deal his and Barry's deal clear over 14 mil off the cap in a year.

    The Pacers with pick 28 and 19 from Lakers deal could add 2 more young rebuilding blocks. Just a thought many might think Foster is worth more -I'm not sure, but we know he is the type of player the Spurs like .

    If we are rebuilding lets just get it started now, pieces like Bynum, Granger, Diogu , Williams , maybe Farmar and 2picks in this years draft could be a good start.

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    Ps would have been smart enough to take Jordan tho right?
    They weren't even smart enough to hold onto the pick that could have been Jordan.

    IOW, I wouldn't bet anything significant on it.

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    Okay I know Jeff Foster is a fan favorite but I'd see if the Spurs would like to acquire the home town boy. For pick #28 and Brent Barry.

    If the Pacers are rebuilding it clears Foster's contract one year sooner as Barry has one year at 5.5 mil left on his contract. If Bynum is acquired from the Lakers clears more playing time for Bynum and Diogu.

    No one will take Murphy's deal . If Kwame Brown is accepted by Walsh/Bird in the Laker deal his and Barry's deal clear over 14 mil off the cap in a year.

    The Pacers with pick 28 and 19 from Lakers deal could add 2 more young rebuilding blocks. Just a thought many might think Foster is worth more -I'm not sure, but we know he is the type of player the Spurs like .

    If we are rebuilding lets just get it started now, pieces like Bynum, Granger, Diogu , Williams , maybe Farmar and 2picks in this years draft could be a good start.
    Actually? I'd be interested in that trade. It seems like San Antonio wins out there, so maybe they should include a little more in order to make it totally even. Maybe throw in that James White fellow?
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    They weren't even smart enough to hold onto the pick that could have been Jordan.

    IOW, I wouldn't bet anything significant on it.
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    Actually? I'd be interested in that trade. It seems like San Antonio wins out there, so maybe they should include a little more in order to make it totally even. Maybe throw in that James White fellow?


    Hey, then maybe we could trade Ike for the #11 pick.
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    Hey, then maybe we could trade Ike for the #11 pick.
    Oh, that's cold.

    Seriously, what kind of evil mind thinks up that kind of thing?
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    A 20th and 27th, if I remember correctly.

    If my memory DOES turn out to be correct, then the answer would be yes. Foster was definitely worth the 20th and 27th pick.
    Of guys drafted between 80 and 2001 50% taken in the 2nd half of round one were OUT OF THE NBA in 5 years.

    So yeah, considering Jeff is still playing and is extremely productive in at least one area of the sport I'd say he's equal to a TYPICAL 20th and 27th pick combo. One would be off the team and the other would have a 60% or more chance of being AT BEST what Foster is.

    Manu and Parker are the extreme exceptions, not the rule. You've got about a 6% chance of pulling a star out of either of those picks, and getting 2 stars with those 2 picks? 0.4% chance roughly.

    So there you are without Foster but counting on Malcom Mackey and Doug Edwards to save the day. Or Ed Gray and Keith Booth.

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    Oh, that's cold.

    Seriously, what kind of evil mind thinks up that kind of thing?
    What? It'd be just like the Jax switcheroo, except this time we'd get Murphleavy for free!!!

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    Default Re: What's the best draft pick we could get for Foster?

    Ok, I just have a dumb question. If the teams that would want this guy [Foster] are contending teams, then why are some of you so eager for us to trade him? Do you believe that he's one of the only players that are worth anything? I think there's a home for every player on this team on someone else's roster. Hell, I think there's players on this team that can get us a better pick than Foster can, not that I'm doubting Foster can get is a decent pick.

    As most of you know, any team can become a contending team in the East. With that said, and the fact that contending teams need a Jeff Foster like player on their team, I'd rather be the one to keep Foster and try to be a contending team by moving the pieces that don't exactly fit the puzzle. As opposed to moving a piece that fits now for sure just because he can get us a draft pick that might or might not turn into a good player. There's other guys on this team that haven't found a role here, or may have fallen out of their role here that would make a little more sense to trade. But given the fact that we could be losing Baston (our other hustle big man), I wouldn't be so quick to pull the trigger and move Jeff.

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    Default Re: What's the best draft pick we could get for Foster?

    What... Was that too logical or something?

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    I don't want to trade Jeff either. He's not the damaged goods he's made out to be, nor is he anywhere NEAR the top of my list of players who should leave. In fact he's in the bottom-3.

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    Default Re: What's the best draft pick we could get for Foster?

    Agreed. We're in the business of trading to get better. Trading Foster just because he's a player somebody would want doesn't mean we trade him. We're trying to make ourselves better, not other teams better. If we have players that we want/need to get rid of, and another team has a want/need for that player, and they have someone we could use in return, then fine we have a deal. But trading players that aren't doing anything but helping the team just for the sake of doing so because he's tradable makes no sense to me.

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    Okay I know Jeff Foster is a fan favorite but I'd see if the Spurs would like to acquire the home town boy. For pick #28 and Brent Barry.
    Ohhhh... I'd do that.

    But I'm not the best person to comment on this - I still wish the Pacers would've traded Artest for Brent Barry back in the 2003 preseason when that rumor was hot.
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