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    That means its dead...
    It aint dead. It has to happen JO and Kobe must unite.

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    It aint dead. It has to happen JO and Kobe must unite.
    Well I'm starting to get the feeling that it is not going to happen...At least in LA...

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    I posted this already. Bucher just explained it. No player can restore the trust Kobe felt the TPTB in Lakerland violated.
    Seriously, this whole "Kobe fiasco" is reaching "Artest-like" proportions. First he says he wants out....2-3 hours later, he says he talks to Phil and says that he wants to be a lifetime Laker...then comes out this morning and says again ( a few hours later ) that he wants to go.
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    It aint dead. It has to happen JO and Kobe must unite.
    I think that Kobe is just messing with you and toying with what little emotions that you have left after going through this memorable Pacer season
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    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    I would laugh so hard if JONeal goes to LakerLand and then Kobe goes Artest on them and demands to be traded to the Knicks.
    I'm the biggest JO fan ever and I just laughed out loud aswell. It would suck because JO would be worse out there without odom and bynum and such. And he'd be in the west! It is kind of funny...and kobe has felt betrayed by mgmt...not a whole lot you can do there.
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    It will happen, even if for just one game. and then after the game Kobe demands a trade. JO and Kobe will play together one game. I will record the game and play 82 times while the NBA season is going on.

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    I'm the biggest JO fan ever and I just laughed out loud aswell. It would suck because JO would be worse out there without odom and bynum and such. And he'd be in the west! It is kind of funny...and kobe has felt betrayed by mgmt...not a whole lot you can do there.
    BBB But Kobe...we...we wwww wee got you JERMAINE O'NEAL!

    Kobe: SO WHAT! TRADE ME!
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    It will happen, even if for just one game. and then after the game Kobe demands a trade. JO and Kobe will play together one game. I will record the game and play 82 times while the NBA season is going on.
    I really dont even care about losing JO anymore, I just want this deal to fall through so your dream never comes true.

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    I really dont even care about losing JO anymore, I just want this deal to fall through so your dream never comes true.
    JO and Kobe will play beautiful basketball together.

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    Shade I am starting to think that if we won the Lottery you would still be cynical:

    With the first pick in the NBA draft the Indiana Pacers pick.....Greg Oden

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    I am going to microwave my head, because the Pacers missed the boat again. When Oden is nothing more than Okafor and Durant makes the All-Star team I will never watch a game again. Heres to sucking for the next 10 decades

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    It will happen, even if for just one game. and then after the game Kobe demands a trade. JO and Kobe will play together one game. I will record the game and play 82 times while the NBA season is going on.
    reaching an obsession or what? LOL
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    It aint dead. It has to happen JO and Kobe must unite.
    By the way Bird was talking, sounds pretty dead to me.

    Sounds to me like LA wasnt offering enough for JO and Bird pretty much said "hey if you only want to offer us crap for JO, we'll offer you the same for Bryant."
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    yeah it does sound dead, BUT...he could be trying to fool is
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    And also remember, there could always be a 3+ team trade of some sort, so we might not just be looking at Laker players. Maybe offer Bynum around for a bottom top 10 pick this year maybe, or any of the other pieces around.
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    With what Bynum's shown thus far, he'd go top-5 in this years draft easily. If this kid would've went to college he would've dominated just like Oden.

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    Negotiations are like this. Obviously, the Lakers need JO more than the Pacers need to deal with LA...and both parties know it. The Lakers know it will be a nightmare if they do not acquire JO or another star like Garnett...and they are far more likely to get JO.

    There is no middle ground. Jackson AND Kobe want to win NOW and they cannot do that with a draft pick and rookies. They simply cannot wait for Bynum to develop...and by that time Odom and Kobe are on the way down. We should be able to stuff Tinsley down their throat too. There is no more appropriate partner for LA than Indy.

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    There is no more appropriate partner for LA than Indy.
    Given all that has happened with Kobe...I would agree...but I also think that Boston could still be a likely partner.
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    Given all that has happened with Kobe...I would agree...but I also think that Boston could still be a likely partner.
    I agree. There is some nice young talent on the Celtics roster.

    JO and The Truth would make very good basketball in the East.

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    Given all that has happened with Kobe...I would agree...but I also think that Boston could still be a likely partner.
    I doubt Boston being a partner if they intend of trading Pierce. Boston is just going to rebuild too. Kobe is just going to go from rebuilding in LA to rebuilding in Boston.

    Wait, did you mean for JO or Kobe???

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    Either the Pacers are putting up more smokescreens, or JO will be back. That's what I'm taking from O'Brien and Bird

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    Tinsley will not be going to LA.

    He is the most "un-triangle-compatible" point guard in the league. He would be worthless to LA as long as Phil Jackson is coach.
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    I doubt Boston being a partner if they intend of trading Pierce. Boston is just going to rebuild too. Kobe is just going to go from rebuilding in LA to rebuilding in Boston.

    Wait, did you mean for JO or Kobe???
    Although I am going purely on speculation from a fan POV ( and what I have garnered from the Celtics RealGM forums )......but if a Green/#5/Ratliff deal for JONeal is available from the Cs....I would take that deal before the proposed Bynum/Kwame/#19 deal.

    IMHO....the only way that the Lakers can tip the scales is to include Odom...and from what we can tell...they won't. Given the situation the Lakers are in now where I feel that they MUST make a move to make Kobe happy.....and we don't have to trade JONeal ( much less to the Lakers )....I just feel that we are in a better position to come out ahead in any deal with the Lakers.

    As I mentioned before....if all that we get from the Lakers is Bynum/Kwame/#19....then I really think that at best....we broke even...but at worst...we came out on the short end of the stick and I severely overestimated JONeal's trade value on the market. I fully expected ( before Kobe's rant ) that this was the best deal we could get from the Lakers. But now, I would expect more simply because of the "make a deal or else" position that Kobe put the Lakers in.
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    I agree. There is some nice young talent on the Celtics roster.

    JO and The Truth would make very good basketball in the East.
    Seems like Boston would be pulling pretty hard U-Turn on the direction of the team. They are in a hard core youth movement. If anything I think they move Pierce this offseason.

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    Although I am going purely on speculation from a fan POV ( and what I have garnered from the Celtics RealGM forums )......but if a Green/#5/Ratliff deal for JONeal is available from the Cs....I would take that deal before the proposed Bynum/Kwame/#19 deal.

    IMHO....the only way that the Lakers can tip the scales is to include Odom...and from what we can tell...they won't. Given the situation the Lakers are in now where I feel that they MUST make a move to make Kobe happy.....and we don't have to trade JONeal ( much less to the Lakers )....I just feel that we are in a better position to come out ahead in any deal with the Lakers.

    As I mentioned before....if all that we get from the Lakers is Bynum/Kwame/#19....then I really think that at best....we broke even...but at worst...we came out on the short end of the stick and I severely overestimated JONeal's trade value on the market. I fully expected ( before Kobe's rant ) that this was the best deal we could get from the Lakers. But now, I would expect more simply because of the "make a deal or else" position that Kobe put the Lakers in.
    My bad...I thought you meant Kobe would be going to Boston....

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    By the way Bird was talking, sounds pretty dead to me.

    Sounds to me like LA wasnt offering enough for JO and Bird pretty much said "hey if you only want to offer us crap for JO, we'll offer you the same for Bryant."
    where exactly are you guys reading comments from bird? BUT LOL if that's how it sounds..hahah
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