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  • Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

    This is from ESPN Insider, if this isn't legal here please just delete it.

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    Sources Say Oden Will Go Pro
    Written by Jeff
    Tuesday, 27 March 2007
    Chad Ford reports:

    One prominent NBA player agent, who asked not to be identified because he was revealing confidential discussions, told Insider that he had enough contact with Conley's father, Mike Conley Sr., to be 99 percent sure both Oden and Conley Jr. were coming out.

    "I think Oden really wants to stay in school," the agent told Insider. "However, I think he's feeling a lot of pressure from family and friends that the opportunity to be the No. 1 pick is one he can't pass on. I think Conley Jr. wanted to make sure he was the top rated point guard in the draft before declaring. He didn't want to settle for a mid-to-late first-round pick. With his play in the tournament, I think he's there. Next year, with O.J. Mayo in the mix, he may not be."

    One other agent essentially confirmed the first agent's story.

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    Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

    Originally posted by Shawne View Post

    I think what we shold do is trade whatever we have to to keep JO, Granger,Williams,Ike and get the 1st pick and get Oden and somehow get Conley. We would have a really good team. Trade the next 5 years 1st round picks because Oden will be a all star player for many years.
    I hope you're joking because this is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. It's akin to saying, "Maybe we should have traded Croshere for Dwayne Wade instead of Marquis Daniels."

    The Pacers could not even get the #1 pick if they offered to trade JO straight up for it.
    "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

    - Salman Rushdie

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      Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

      Originally posted by mellifluous View Post
      I hope you're joking because this is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. It's akin to saying, "Maybe we should have traded Croshere for Dwayne Wade instead of Marquis Daniels."

      The Pacers could not even get the #1 pick if they offered to trade JO straight up for it.
      Sorry, I didnt write that. I copied this from the Pacers board over at Real GM and I didnt notice that part at the bottom. It's now been removed.

      ESPN and Im sure most experts consider Conley the #1 rated point guard in the draft. He's being compared to Chris Paul. If we can land a top-10 pick, he's within striking distance. I also think this means Acie Law may fall to the mid 1st round (15ish) meaning trading for a pick to acquire him would be slightly easier.

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      • #4
        Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

        You can't trade multiple (consecutive) 1st round picks away anyway. The NBA doesn't allow it.

        Any player who has a legit shot at being a lottery pick is a fool not to declare for the NBA.

        -Bball
        Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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        "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

        -John Wooden

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        • #5
          Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

          That's surprising since Conley Jr. came out earlier and said he was returning to Ohio St. But if Conley Sr. is one of the sources, then it must be pretty liable, in fact I've heard that Conley Sr. is working on opening a sports agency. If that's the case I'm guessing his son will be a client... which is a pretty good start, and if he somehow lands Oden as well..... pretty successful business right off the back

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            Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

            If this kid Tywon Lawson (UNC Freshman) also comes out, this draft will be stacked with 3 potential franchise PG's.

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              Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

              I know it's an "Insider" article and from a supposed prominent agent, but I call bull****. Greg was entering the draft before the NBA age rule, so I don't see how he can be so torn.

              Without getting into a lot of detail, I will say I've personally sat down and talked with Greg for close to an hour about various topics, including the league. He told me, and several other people, he was entering the draft on 1/30/07.

              I just have a hard time believing someone who is out of the loop with Greg, can be in the loop with Mike. Also, Greg would be the #1 next year as well, so it's not like he has to worry about dropping anywhere.
              Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

                Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                I know it's an "Insider" article and from a supposed prominent agent, but I call bull****. Greg was entering the draft before the NBA age rule, so I don't see how he can be so torn.

                Without getting into a lot of detail, I will say I've personally sat down and talked with Greg for close to an hour about various topics, including the league. He told me, and several other people, he was entering the draft on 1/30/07.

                I just have a hard time believing someone who is out of the loop with Greg, can be in the loop with Mike. Also, Greg would be the #1 next year as well, so it's not like he has to worry about dropping anywhere.
                Saying Oden is/was "torn" could be just a little spin that the 'insider' is putting on it as a bit of sugar for those that want him to stay at OSU/college or those that might be inclined to say he is being greedy. I don't think I'd let that be the tripping point in believing the article.

                -Bball
                Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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                "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

                -John Wooden

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                  Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

                  First, there isn't a posted link, which is a BIG no-no, and means that the story is someone's madeup fantasy.

                  Second, I've been listening to ESPN radio all day and they've not said anything about this, and it would be a big story if Mike declared and worth some kind of mention.

                  Third, there's nothing on ESPN's front page about it, and nothing on ESPN's men's college basketball page about it. Amazingly Conley is the front picture on the college BB page, so obviously if it was true the story would be linked under it.


                  This story is 100% fake.

                  EDIT: There is nothing on the Insider page either.
                  Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                    Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

                    The story is not fake. It comes word for word from Chad Ford's blog. The info about Conley Sr. opening his own sports agency to represent both players is also in there.

                    Shawne, sorry for the reaction to the end of your post. I thought it was out of character since your posts are usually pretty reasonable. Glad to know that you didn't write it.

                    Still, Oden is a pipe dream unless the Pacers win the lottery. If the downward spiral continues, however, Conley and Law are legit top 10 picks.
                    "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

                    - Salman Rushdie

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                      Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

                      Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                      First, there isn't a posted link, which is a BIG no-no, and means that the story is someone's madeup fantasy.

                      Second, I've been listening to ESPN radio all day and they've not said anything about this, and it would be a big story if Mike declared and worth some kind of mention.

                      Third, there's nothing on ESPN's front page about it, and nothing on ESPN's men's college basketball page about it. Amazingly Conley is the front picture on the college BB page, so obviously if it was true the story would be linked under it.


                      This story is 100% fake.

                      EDIT: There is nothing on the Insider page either.

                      But that could sure be the tripping point....

                      -Bball
                      Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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                      "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

                      -John Wooden

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                        Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

                        Mistake on Conley's part for a couple of reasons. First, I don't think he's NBA-ready yet. Not really. He'll be OK but he'd be far better from a career standpoint to wait another year or two and refine his game.

                        Second, this year's draft is loaded. What's worse is it's loaded with big men. Conley may or may not make the number 1 PG in the draft list but that still may not get him into the lottery. Last year the first true PG went 21st. In fact, IMO Rajan Rondo isn't a terrible player to compare him with - lightning quick, knows how to distribute, iffy shooter.
                        The poster formerly known as Rimfire

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                          Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

                          Originally posted by DisplacedKnick View Post
                          Mistake on Conley's part for a couple of reasons. First, I don't think he's NBA-ready yet. Not really. He'll be OK but he'd be far better from a career standpoint to wait another year or two and refine his game.

                          Second, this year's draft is loaded. What's worse is it's loaded with big men. Conley may or may not make the number 1 PG in the draft list but that still may not get him into the lottery. Last year the first true PG went 21st.
                          Conley's going lottery

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                            Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

                            http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...me%3dford_chad

                            there's the link to the story, since it's still not been provided.

                            I had to dig quite a bit to even find it. Conley is still listed as an "if" on their mock board, and to me 99% sure would be moved to a "yes."

                            From what I've been told from Greg, and from my roommate who would sit beside Conley Sr. at games, I have very little faith in this being true.

                            Next years draft would push him into a lot better position, not only with more experience, but the logjam of big name forwards/centers would be gone.

                            EDIT: Thad Matta is supposed to be on the Dan Patrick show on ESPN radio at 3pm eastern, which it's 3:07 now, so any minute.
                            Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                              Re: Oden and Conley Both Enterting the Draft

                              Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                              http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...me%3dford_chad

                              there's the link to the story, since it's still not been provided.

                              I had to dig quite a bit to even find it. Conley is still listed as an "if" on their mock board, and to me 99% sure would be moved to a "yes."

                              From what I've been told from Greg, and from my roommate who would sit beside Conley Sr. at games, I have very little faith in this being true.

                              Next years draft would push him into a lot better position, not only with more experience, but the logjam of big name forwards/centers would be gone.

                              EDIT: Thad Matta is supposed to be on the Dan Patrick show on ESPN radio at 3pm eastern, which it's 3:07 now, so any minute.
                              Actually, OJ Mayo and Derrick Rose are 2 point guards likely to be in next years draft that would probably go ahead of Conley. This year, he's likely the #1 consensus point guard. He really has no reason to stay, unless he's really enjoying the college experience.

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