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    Honestly, I'm not too upset about tonight's loss. At least we played with some energy.

    But, once again, we just don't have the talent to get it done.

    8 losses in a row. Who thought it would get this bad, and how much worse will it get?

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    I wonder why Reggie bothered coming to the game.

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    Doesn't matter. I had a great time watching this game.

    If Tins never sees the court again, I'll be fine.

    Offseason = buh-bye, JO.
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    i could only follow the box score, but I don't get why Jeff Foster and Ike Digou didn't play together more often than Murph and Digou, and even Baston, like Greene though...

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    Doesn't matter. I had a great time watching this game.

    If Tins never sees the court again, I'll be fine.

    Offseason = buh-bye, JO.
    Please waive Tinsley.

    Now.

    And try to save JO from leaving.

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    Doesn't matter. I had a great time watching this game.

    If Tins never sees the court again, I'll be fine.

    Offseason = buh-bye, JO.
    A big Marv Albert HYYYYEEEEHHHHHHSSS to that!

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    Well, you can't waive a guy when you owe him tens of millions of dollars.

    If Tins did something stupid, the Pacers could have T.O.'d his ***, and I would have been fine with that.

    We can take on someone else in the offseason and waive them though.
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    Granger needs to start playing strong for us to win. He's way to passive. He needs to develop the go-to-guy mentality. Right now he's settling with just being a role player. He has a chance the next few games to be the man.

    Ike did what he does when he gets minutes...score some points in the paint.

    Harrison was actually a factor out there in the 1st half.

    Dunleavy was solid on offense, but whoever he guarded on Philly became their mismatch and they converted time and time again.

    McLeod and Greene both played really well and made cases to see more PT.

    I would really like to see Daniels play with the group that played tonight. We win that game with a little more firepower from the backcourt.

    21 games to go. Loss #9 coming tomorrow in Cleveland.

    (One final thought: I don't even care anymore that we'd be helping the Bulls get a lot better. This summer we need to trade JO for a package that includes Ben Gordon. We desperately need a big shot guard and I could see Paxson parting with BG if it got them JO.)

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    I'm pissed that Shawne still can't get off the bench.

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    Well, you can't waive a guy when you owe him tens of millions of dollars.

    If Tins did something stupid, the Pacers could have T.O.'d his ***, and I would have been fine with that.

    We can take on someone else in the offseason and waive them though.
    T.O. Tins!

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    Granger showed a moment of clutch there at the end. Very unusual for a guy with his level of experience. Another reason why he reminded me so much of Tay Prince when we drafted him. He's a rare 4th quarter player at his age - a lot like Tay was/is.
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    Seriously, I don't feel like we lost that game.

    It's a weird feeling. the only "moral victory" I've ever really felt as a fan.

    It felt kind of like watching the Pacers post-brawl, where you know you're outclassed, but your guys are playing hard anyway.
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    It is so much more enjoyable to watch Pacers basketball without Tinsley and JO on the court. Tinsley is just everything I hate in a basketball player... and it's even worse dealing with a player like that at PG. From attitude and demeanor to shot selection and decisions on the court... "Just get him gone".

    If Rick's coaching the team then I'd prefer JO not be playing either. We can debate all day whether that is Rick's fault or JO's fault but that doesn't change how much more I enjoy watching the team when JO isn't an option. Our backcourt looks better... the shooting looks better... the other team has a harder time defending us. Players play in the flow of the game and with more interest when their role is more than cooling down behind the arc while they wait and see what JO is going to do.

    I got to watch the 1st half and the last few minutes of the 4th and I really don't have many complaints or questions. We were able to run some. We made Philly play defense and kept them guessing most of the shot clock (for what I watched). We showed some effort and heart (I thought). It's not like this group has had much time to play together as-is. And adding Daniels could give them another dimension.

    Sit Tinsley the rest of the year as far as I'm concerned.

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    Granger showed a moment of clutch there at the end. Very unusual for a guy with his level of experience. Another reason why he reminded me so much of Tay Prince when we drafted him. He's a rare 4th quarter player at his age - a lot like Tay was/is.

    Other than hitting those two very tough shots, Granger had a very bad night. He never played this bad as a rookie, and now he's done it in 6 or 7 consecutive games. Ever since Rick benched him for Shawne to have scoring off the bench...something's changed. I think it's his confidence.

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    i'm getting sick of this "Tank" crap...that means usually losing on purpose for the sole reason of getting a high draft pick...good luck with that!
    was about to beat the knicks and the nets are going to lose and don't count on orlando winning tomm. vs houston...so looks like the standings will stay the same...
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    There is a lot of competition for one of the bottom 10 spots. Fortunately, our guys are focused and ready to continue the run. A back to back going on the road to Cleveland. Who in the world is going to guard Ilgauskas? Foster is notoriously a poor defender on him. It should be a freaking blood bath. The only guy to match up with him is Harrison and how many fouls can he rack up in 30 minutes? 20?

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    It is so much more enjoyable to watch Pacers basketball without Tinsley and JO on the court. Tinsley is just everything I hate in a basketball player... and it's even worse dealing with a player like that at PG. From attitude and demeanor to shot selection and decisions on the court... "Just get him gone".

    If Rick's coaching the team then I'd prefer JO not be playing either. We can debate all day whether that is Rick's fault or JO's fault but that doesn't change how much more I enjoy watching the team when JO isn't an option. Our backcourt looks better... the shooting looks better... the other team has a harder time defending us. Players play in the flow of the game and with more interest when their role is more than cooling down behind the arc while they wait and see what JO is going to do.

    I got to watch the 1st half and the last few minutes of the 4th and I really don't have many complaints or questions. We were able to run some. We made Philly play defense and kept them guessing most of the shot clock (for what I watched). We showed so effort and heart (I thought). It's not like this group has had much time to play together as-is. And adding Daniels could give them another dimension.

    Sit Tinsley the rest of the year as far as I'm concerned.

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    i could only follow the box score, but I don't get why Jeff Foster and Ike Digou didn't play together more often than Murph and Digou, and even Baston, like Greene though...
    That's a somewhat easy one to answer...

    Murphy (MDjr, and) Diogu are far more familiar w/each other on the floor than Foster/Diogu. Frankly, I thought the Pacers were far more effective w/the Murphy/Diogu combo than w/any other low-post pairing. Would loved to have seen Baston out there, but it just wasn't meant to be this night.

    Something that really tic'd me off about this game was the obvious disparity in FT shouting...76ers: 28-33; Pacers: 10-13! I haven't seen the in-game stats as far as points in the paint are concerned, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Pacers outscored the 76ers in that category. And if so, can someone explain to me how a team wins this statistical battle and not get to the line? jerk refs.

    Overall, I thought my boyz played a much better game tonight than any other game during this losing skid despite the lose. One adjustment I'd make if I were RC is start Diogu and keep Tinsley on the bench a few games just for GP!

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    I was glad to see them knock down some shots....Good to see Granger hitting a few...we win the game if JO was in....Ike does well when noone doubles him...surprised that Harrison didn't get more minutes, I thought he played well.

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    Sit Tinsley the rest of the year as far as I'm concerned.
    Fine by me. Couldn't agree more with your point. After the last 2-3 years, you have to admit the overall effort without JO on the court is more than just an exception. With he and JT out of the mix, it was like the other guys looked liberated. Playoffs, .500ish ball, whatever. I'd take that competitiveness in a young "rebuilding" (however you choose to interpret that) team anyday.

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    Other than hitting those two very tough shots, Granger had a very bad night. He never played this bad as a rookie, and now he's done it in 6 or 7 consecutive games. Ever since Rick benched him for Shawne to have scoring off the bench...something's changed. I think it's his confidence.
    Really? I don't know - I don't think he's playing much differently, I just think his weaknesses are completely exposed when he plays with the second unit guys. I don't see a dramatic reduction in how he is playing the game, even if a statistical difference exists.

    Danny seems fine to me. I'd like to hear what some lobo fans have to say about Danny the younger vs. Danny the elder.
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    Knicks just won on a buzzer shot by Steve Francis, making them the 8th seed and rising!?

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    Default Re: Pacers vs. Sixers Post-Game Thread: The Tank rolls on through Conseco...

    Wow I was like 10 when the Pacers had this long of a losing streak.
    My daughter is just a year younger than that now

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    Frank, I never had you tagged as a "Dad". Are you serious?
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