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    So it's been over a year now. In hindsight, do you think the Ron Artest trade was the right move?

    I kind of wish we would've kept him. He hasn't had any major explosions in Sacramento so far. Sure, the team had behind the scenes issues, but at the end of the day we were winners. This team isn't exactly peaches and cream, and we're mediocre.

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    Um, did we have a choice? We kept him here until he demanded to be traded. I dont know what else we could have done

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    "Yes!"

    Ron had to go. It was one of those situations where no matter what you did to help the guy realize how his actions were hurting himself and the team, you simply enabled him by "carrying" him (keeping in on the roster) after every incident. It would have been one thing had he just kept his mouth shut and talked w/DW immediately after the first time he went public w/his trade demand. It was something completely different once he kept talking to the media knowing full well DW had just went public himself basically saying, "Come to my office, Ron-Ron and let's talk about this...maybe we can work something out." Be he didn't. Moreover, he only recanted his demand AFTER realizing he put his foot in his mouth.

    So, YES, it was time for him to go.

    Now, if you're asking do I miss in lockdown defense and his 18-20 ppg, the answer is, "Hells, yes!" But I don't miss that pscho-drama, clear out of left field temper of his.

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    Yeah, but I think it's safe to say Ron is bi-polar. Didn't, towards the end, he end up not wanting to be traded after all? Or was that just something he said to make himself look better once it had already been decided that he was gonna be moved?

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    He said he didn't want to be traded after all when he realized we were really going to go through with trading him. Once he had already gone public and embarrassed this franchise for the last time, we had to make the move. Nobody on the team trusted him anymore. I miss his talent, but it was unquestionably the right move. I'm sure any other GM in the NBA would have done the same thing.

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    He has been having some weird absences as of late. I was watching one of their games against Philly (I believe) earlier on this week. Apparently it was a last minute decision that he wasn't going to play that game. John Salmons was set to start for him...then all of a sudden, he was in the starting lineup for that game at the last second.

    You just never know.

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    Our team has no heart or soul right now.

    Ron Artest is the Devil that came and ate our heart and soul. Then he left his lesser minion Stephen Jackson to finish us off.

    I loved Ron Artest the player, but Artest the person is too f*^%d up too ever be a part of a winning team.

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    So it's been over a year now. In hindsight, do you think the Ron Artest trade was the right move?

    I kind of wish we would've kept him. He hasn't had any major explosions in Sacramento so far. Sure, the team had behind the scenes issues, but at the end of the day we were winners. This team isn't exactly peaches and cream, and we're mediocre.
    Wow, you have a SHORT memory. And Sacramento was TRYING to trade him.

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    He's not been a saint in Sacramento by any stretch.

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    So it's been over a year now. In hindsight, do you think the Ron Artest trade was the right move?

    I kind of wish we would've kept him. He hasn't had any major explosions in Sacramento so far. Sure, the team had behind the scenes issues, but at the end of the day we were winners. This team isn't exactly peaches and cream, and we're mediocre.
    Major explosions, no. But he's had a few minor problems and his latest missed games have fans out there preferring his absence. As we saw first hand, their offense tends to run better when he's not bogging it down with the ball in his hands.
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    I loved to watch Ron, but he had to go.

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    I hated the trade.

    Because it was FOR Peja instead of something more productive (and I felt this way at the time). I would have loved if they asked for Martin instead.

    It was a chance to get a lower profile guy, but the Pacers went for homerun IMO and that was a mistake.

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    Hey yes it was the right move. Never has one player done so much damage to the Pacers as he did. It was also EXTREMELY interesting that he didn't play here against us. He didn't man-up. That tells me something.
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    So it's been over a year now. In hindsight, do you think the Ron Artest trade was the right move?

    I kind of wish we would've kept him. He hasn't had any major explosions in Sacramento so far. Sure, the team had behind the scenes issues, but at the end of the day we were winners. This team isn't exactly peaches and cream, and we're mediocre.
    The guy had to go and this is coming from someone who was a big Artest fan. The only thing you can really question is if the right trade was made in terms of what the P's got back. The way Peja missed those playoff games and then decided to walk, I feel like the Pacers got jobbed.

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    I hated the trade.

    Because it was FOR Peja instead of something more productive (and I felt this way at the time). I would have loved if they asked for Martin instead.

    It was a chance to get a lower profile guy, but the Pacers went for homerun IMO and that was a mistake.
    I think you are making a huge mistake in assuming the Kings would have even considered giving up Martin in the deal for Artest.

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    Yep.

    Like Seth, I wouldn't have minded going after Martin. He wasn't as untouchable then as he is now. Still, it was a good trade.
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    Yes, Martin would've been great. I love his style of play, Tins Martin Danger Murphy and JO would be at least better.

    I thought it was cool high-fiving him after the Pacers fan jam, but now it meant nothing.
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    Btw, Ron still owes me a jersey.

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    I've been listening to the Sports 1140 in SacTown and they have been discussing one of the "issues" that Eric Mussellman has to deal with now with Artest where he would inform the team ( about ) 30 minutes before the start of the game that he would not play. I'm not sure how often he has done it....but it has come up enough for Grant Napier to comment on it.

    I think that if most of us are asked whether we miss Artest's skills and what he is capable of doing on both ends of the court....we would probably answer "yes" to that question.

    But if you ask the same about whether we miss the "personality" that Artest is on and off the court....the answer would be "no".
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    Btw, Ron still owes me a jersey.
    I think that's why he didn't show up in the Pacer game in Indy...cuz he didn't want to owe money to all the Pacer fans that wanted their money back on his Jersey.
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    So it's been over a year now. In hindsight, do you think the Ron Artest trade was the right move?

    I kind of wish we would've kept him. He hasn't had any major explosions in Sacramento so far. Sure, the team had behind the scenes issues, but at the end of the day we were winners. This team isn't exactly peaches and cream, and we're mediocre.
    Doh!

    A guy who you cannot rely on to avoid missing games due to incidents on and off the court is not a guy I want on one of my teams.

    Dude can be a little flaky, nutty or whatever but when it crosses that line of hurting the team with missed games, it's not worth the trouble.

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