Can please all agree at least that there is a big difference between Ike and David Harrison, however?
I feel as if Rick Carlisle can make something special out of Ike. He obviously likes his game a lot already. Then again, I'm a huge Rick Carlisle fan.
First team, second team, whichever, just give the man more minutes.
I think DaSmash brought up our lack of individual coaching and how that hurts us and player development. It seems like Ike could be a casualty of that bugaboo as well.
If it's just a matter of drilling the Pacer playbook into his head plus working on some recognition issues, it seems to me he'd be well worth the investment in time and manpower to do just that. Assign a teacher to him and get to working some one on one sessions....
Nuntius was right. I was wrong. Frank Vogel has retained his job.
"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatís teamwork."
This trade was brilliant in that we gained a new Danny Granger and a new Marquis Daniels. Defining roles on a team is SO underrated. This was more important to Danny and Marquis than having consistent teammates around them. As long as guys know what they have to do. I like how Murphy is starting to develop some of this awareness as well. Dunleavy is good in his role but he either needs to work on his jump shot or stop taking as many outside shots.
On the game side, I thought JO and Danger played really well! JO came back from the hit in the head, and Danny played well on both ends! I thought Quis and the Tin Man played well. Seeing as I was worried if they would even play after the legal news... I was happy they played and they contributed. Quis was ... well Quis and always seem to come through, and I'll take Tin Man's double double any night! I thought Dun Dun and Murph contributed like Donnie and Larry expected them to when they made the trade. And Maceo looked good as well! We play like this... WHILE getting some stops and we're a team to be reckoned with!!
Two things stood out to me from the box score:
1. We had a good 1st quarter finally, leading by 15 at the end. Hopefully we can make a habit of that.
2. We had 16 more free throw attempts. I guess the refs don't hate the Pacers after all. Or maybe they just hate the Bucks worse.
Can somebody give me a run-down on how Bogut played? How did he go defending in the post, and did the Bucks get him the ball at all or did all his shots come off boards and broken plays like they usually do?
From the box score it looks like he had a reasonable allround game but sucked from the foul line. Fouled out in 38mins...
I like Carlisle. I think he takes timeouts at great times, and is a pretty good play caller, except at the end of games! I know without Reggie the playcalling is a lot harder, but he's so predictable! Since we don't have a go to guy, I wish we had more movement at the end of the game. Instead it's always isolation with either Tinsley or JO, unless we need a 3, then it's get it to Danny and see if he hits! So Rick needs to work on end game situations, and no when to go with the hot hand, and when the hot hand isn't hot anymore!
What I've seen of Maceo when he gets some minutes, I think he's as good or better than Jeff, Ike, and arguably Murph (except for the jumper) as far as what he can do for us right now in limited time.
He's not a starter but would be great in 12-15 min/game off the bench. Energy and athleticism, shotblocking, and good fundamentals-including FTs. Not much offense but he always plays hard and may be the best big we've got at executing the PnR.
Barring some sustained improvement from Ike, I'd opt for a four man post rotation of JO, Murph, Jeff, and Maceo. Diogu has his moments but he doesn't look anywhere near ready yet and we've already got the dreaded logjam pretty much across the entire frontline. Shawne Williams is kind of in the same boat.
Guess this begs the question: With 30 games left do we play the best players at the moment in hopes of making push or do we try to keep getting the youngsters minutes? Can we realistically do both? Or is there a deadline deal on the horizon that alleviates some congestion inside? This last one I doubt is the case.
Now we have a dilema.
Center- Foster and Murphy
Forward- O'neal and Maceo/Ike/Shawne?
Now Which is Which?
But I agree Maceo should be given lots of minutes.
Marquis starting to be an important part of this team.
Bogut has turned into a nice center in the NBA. If the Bucks ever get to be a 50 win team, I could see Bogut making an allstar team or two. He looks gangly and looks as if he's going to break down physically at any moment.
Fun game! I wish we scored 136 every night!
I thought a lot of guys played well:
Maceo looked really good-he seems like a true pro and that dunk was very nice.
JO came with his A game and punished the Bucks for most of the night.
Danny also seems to be gaining confidence every game. He just seems more aggressive and sure of himself.
Dunleavey played really well. When he is aggressive, he can be a really solid contributor.
Murphy seemed to be getting his game together toward the end. He's seemed a little passive up to this point-I hope he continues to assert himself. It seemed like he and JO were starting to play off of each other better.
Marquis is a special player. How many times do you watch him make a basket and think, "How did he get THAT to go?" He's a difference-maker for us.
Don't care that the Bucks took us to 2 OT's. 29-24 is alright with me.
The only clutch shot JO should have is one going to the basket. For bigs it is too easy to double them and force a bad shot or turnover when they try to maneuver for a jump shot.