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    Nananaananana Pacmannnnnnnnnnnnnnn Pacmannnnnnnnnnnnn Pacmannnnnnnnnnnnnn. Stay in the news like George Bush.

    Police said he wasnt a suspect though.

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    Mayhem Main Event at NBA All-Star Weekend
    'Police Were Simply Overwhelmed' in Sin City
    By JASON WHITLOCK


    LAS VEGAS -- NBA All-Star Weekend in Vegas was an unmitigated failure, and any thoughts of taking the extravaganza to New Orleans in 2008 are total lunacy.

    An event planned to showcase what is right about professional basketball has been turned into a 72-hour display of why commissioner David Stern can't sleep at night and spends his days thinking of rules to mask what the NBA has come to represent.

    Good luck fixing All-Star Weekend.

    The game is a sloppy, boring, half-hearted mess. The dunk contest is contrived and pointless. The celebrity contest is unintended comedy. And, worst of all, All-Star Weekend revelers have transformed the league's midseason exhibition into the new millennium Freaknik, an out-of-control street party that features gunplay, violence, non-stop weed smoke and general mayhem.

    Word of all the criminal activity that transpired during All-Star Weekend has been slowly leaking out on Las Vegas radio shows and TV newscasts and on Internet blogs the past 24 hours.

    "It was filled with an element of violence," Teresa Frey, general manager for Coco's restaurant, told klastv.com. "They don't want to pay their bills. They don't want to respect us or each other."

    Things got so bad that she closed the 24-hour restaurant from 2 a.m. to 4 a.m.

    "I have been spit on. I have had food thrown at me," she said. "I have lost two servers out of fear. I have locked my door out of the fear of violence."

    All weekend, people, especially cab drivers, gossiped about brawls and shootings. You didn't know what to believe because the local newspaper was filled with stories about what a raging success All-Star Weekend was. The city is desperately trying to attract an NBA franchise, and, I guess, there was no reason to let a few bloody bodies get in the way of a cozy relationship with Stern.


    Plus, the NBA's business partner ESPN didn't have time to dirty its hands and report on the carnage. I'm sure ESPN's reporters were embedded in the rear ends of the troops -- Shaq, Kobe, King James, D-Wade, AI and Melo.

    But there were multiple brawls, at least two shootings, more than 350 arrests and a lot of terror in Vegas over the weekend.

    And the police might want to talk to NFL player Pacman Jones about a nasty shooting spree at a Vegas strip club. Jones and the rapper Nelly were allegedly at Minxx Gentlemen's Club Monday morning shortly before (or during) the shooting.

    Two victims, male employees of the club, were listed in critical condition at the hospital; a third, a female patron, sustained non-life threatening injuries after being grazed by a bullet.

    There were so many fights and so many gangbangers and one parking-lot shootout at the MGM Grand that people literally fled the hotel in fear for their safety. I talked with a woman who moved from the MGM to the Luxor because "I couldn't take it. I'll never come back to another All-Star Game."

    There are reports of a brawl between rappers and police at the Wynn Hotel.

    Vegas police were simply overwhelmed along The Strip. They were there solely for decoration and to discourage major crimes. Beyond that, they minded their own business.

    I was there. Walking The Strip this weekend must be what it feels like to walk the yard at a maximum security prison. You couldn't relax. You avoided eye contact. The heavy police presence only reminded you of the danger.

    Without a full-scale military occupation, New Orleans will not survive All-Star Weekend 2008.

    David Stern seriously needs to consider moving the event out of the country for the next couple of years in hopes that young, hip-hop hoodlums would find another event to terrorize. Taking the game to Canada won't do it. The game needs to be moved overseas, someplace where the Bloods and Crips and hookers and hoes can't get to it without a passport and plane ticket.


    I'm serious. Stern has spent the past three years trying to move his league and players past the thug image Ron Artest's fan brawl stamped on the NBA.

    After this weekend, I'm convinced he's losing the battle. All-Star Weekend Vegas screamed that the NBA is aligned too closely with thugs. Stern is going to have to take drastic measures to break that perception/reality. All-Star Weekend can no longer remain the Woodstock for parolees, wannabe rap artists and baby's mamas on tax-refund vacations.

    This was not a byproduct of the game being held in Vegas. All-Star Weekend has been on this path for the past five or six years. Every year the event becomes more and more a destination for troublemakers.

    If something isn't done, next year's All-Star Weekend will surpass the deceased Freaknik, a weekend-long party in Atlanta, in terms of lawlessness. Wide-spread looting and a rape killed the Freaknik in 1999.

    The NBA's image cannot survive bedlam in the French Quarter. And I'm not sure it can survive the embarrassment of a New Orleans standoff between its fans and the National Guard, either.

    If Stern wants to continue to strengthen the international appeal of his game, he has the perfect excuse to move the All-Star Game to Germany, China, England or anywhere Suge Knight's posse can't find it.

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    Weekend Violence Mars NBA All-Star Experience

    Even with all of the arrests and several violent crimes related to the All-Star game, the Clark County sheriff would welcome back the NBA event.

    He released the total number of arrests and said Metro spent as much money for police protection during the four days as they do during New Year's Eve.

    Sheriff Doug Gillespie says his officers performed as they should have and prevented total chaos at the NBA events. He calls the weekend a success from a police standpoint.

    There were a total of 403 arrests. "The presence of police officers were very instrumental, I believe, in keeping this event as safe as it was," Sheriff Gillespie said.

    Still, there were four shootings related to NBA events. A shooting in front of the Minxx Gentlemen's Club injured three people. Witnesses say a fight inside the club led to the shooting outside.

    Estrella, a Minxx dancer said, "A famous rapper, Nelly, came in. He spent so much money that people and customers were just going crazy."

    Three people were shot. One still remains in critical condition at the hospital.

    General Rudeness of NBA Fans Noticed

    It wasn't the shootings, but the general rudeness of the NBA fans which left a lasting impression for some in Las Vegans.

    Teresa Frey, Coco's general manager said, "I have been spit on. I have had food thrown at me. I have lost two servers out of fear. I have locked my doors out of fear of violence."

    "With any type of event you have a percentage of the attendees, or people who come and are not here for the right reasons," said the sheriff.

    The sheriff cannot arrest anyone for being rude, but he says officers did their best with an event lasting four days at a number of different places around the Las Vegas Strip.

    "There is always going to be issues that arise," said Sheriff Gillespie.

    For many people working on the Las Vegas Strip, those issues were enough to hope the All-Star game never returns. For the sheriff, he would support a rematch at the Thomas and Mack.

    Prostitution Related Arrests Up Over All-Star Weekend

    More than half of the arrests during the All-Star game were by Metro's vice unit. Those are prostitution related offenses.

    The sheriff says when big events come to town, prostitution increases in Las Vegas. All-Star weekend was no different.

    The Las Vegas community embraced the NBA and fans leading up to the weekend game, but for some businesses it was a bust.

    "It was filled with an element of violence. They don't want to pay their bills. They don't want to respect us or each other," said Frey.

    Frey says she lost 20-percent of her revenue because of people walking out on their bills. She closed the 24-hour restaurant from 2 a.m. to 4 a.m. out of concern.

    Visitors Notice Different Kind of Atmosphere in Las Vegas

    Visitors also felt the different kind of Las Vegas atmosphere. "There was a problem with the people trying walking in front of cars and things like that," said David Hart, visitor from Houston.

    "It was very crowded but we did get to where we were going," said Gwen Hart, visitor from Houston.

    Gwen and David Hart flew into town on Friday and when they saw the large groups of younger NBA fans, they say they avoided them to avoid problems.

    That's the same technique David Botero and his wife used. "It was definitely a Las Vegas we had not seen in the past. It was not vintage Vegas at all," David Botero said. He moved from Las Vegas to New York three years ago. His wife surprised him with a 30th birthday trip back to the city they both love. It turned out to be bad timing.

    Although many Las Vegans, including Teresa Frey, support an NBA team in Las Vegas, she doesn't want to see another All-Star game anytime soon.

    "I know that any amount of revenue I made does not justify me being assaulted," she said.

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    I'm so glad I split Vegas on Friday.

    While I was there, I went to several casinos - the Wynn, the Venician, the Sahara, the Frontier (what a dump) and a couple of others. Everyone seemed to be prety well behaved.



    Seemed like the guys who were in town for the game loved to drink and shoot craps, but I never saw anything violent happen.
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    I was thinking about going to Vegas last weekend. Glad I didnt. (Assuming that this isnt all being blown out of proportion).

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    Bring the All-Star game to Indy. The city seems to do a pretty good job of hosting relatively trouble-free events. The Mike Tyson jail time and Pacers indictments should hopefully discourage the would-be hoodlums who know they won't get a pass from the local prosecutor.

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    I'm so glad I split Vegas on Friday.

    While I was there, I went to several casinos - the Wynn, the Venitian, the Sahara, the Frontier (what a dump) and a couple of others. Everyone seemed to be prety well behaved.



    Seemed like the guys who were in town for the game loved to drink and shoot craps, but I never saw anything violent happen.
    I actually almost went for the weekend, but instead committed to having our basement remodeled at the last minute. (Yes, dear. Coming, dear. Whatever you say, dear.)(As you guys know, I'm Vegas fiend, but only two trips in the past year....sigh )

    So anyways, one of my buddies just got back (we were going to meet her there) and she said it was ridiculous. As she put it, it was a "Ho's and G's ball, 24/7." She said the women weren't dressed sexy, so much as like sloppy tramps. The guys were all tons of chains and ghetto fab. But what she said was telling is the rudeness. There was a palpable air of machismo all the time and lack of courtesy. They wanted people to kiss their butts, but they didn't show respect to others.

    Why would Vegas welcome the All-star game back? I guess that BIG money was being spent. Not big tipping, mind you, just big money. I guess stores would have lines of people looking to buy stuff....anything. Playas were throwing out big money for bottles of high end champaign, etc. But what I'm hearing is that, in stereotypical fashion, they didn't tip well. Asian can't drive. Black folks don't tips. Thanks for keeping up the struggle for Malcolm and breaking those preconcieved notions, attendees!

    (And before some of you get up in arms that don't know me, I'm black, as is my friend.)

    As my friend put it, they made me a kinda embarrased to be black that weekend.
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    Nananaananana Pacmannnnnnnnnnnnnnn Pacmannnnnnnnnnnnn Pacmannnnnnnnnnnnnn. Stay in the news like George Bush.

    Police said he wasnt a suspect though.
    Titans cornerback Pacman Jones set off a melee that led to a triple shooting outside a Las Vegas strip club Monday, the club's co-owner said, based on accounts he said he had from eyewitnesses. He said the melee broke out when Jones began throwing money into the air around strippers. When a security guard grabbed Jones, the player's entourage jumped in. A woman with Jones then hit the guard over the head with a champagne bottle and Jones attacked the guard.
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    All this sounds a lot like our forum parties.


    I happened to miss all of the allstar events. I usually watch the 3 point shoot out (maybe they might need to change the name) the slam dunk and the allstar game, but this yere with family stuff I missed it all. I enjoy regular NBA games so much more.

    As far as the thugs who go to the allstar weekend - that might be why the Pacers and Indianapolis haven't pushed for an allstar game.

    I was watching ESPN and I guess the NBA allstar stuff was the 3rd major event this past weekend (Something called the Chinese New year and another event that I forget) so I don't know if all the thugs were only there for the NBA stuff.

    Personally, I wish they would just cancel all the Allstar stuff, just give the players 3 days off in on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and then start the second half of the season. And do it at the real midway point.

    For the record: I have about as much interest of going to Las Vegas as I do to Gary, Indiana or maybe Terre Haute. So many people have told me you have to go to Vegas at least once - No, nothing that goes on their interests me in the least

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    That's the thing about Vegas - you are surrounded by debauchery and sad sights of people with serious problems.

    BUT - there's this understood "vibe" all around that acting like an ***hole will not be tolerated by anyone.

    I prefer Vegas during the week and during the offseason. There are more europeans who know how to behave. More people are in town for work, and behave themselves accordingly, there are fewer crouds, no lines.

    The environment on the strip is debaucherous, but people behave themselves more than they do in LA. I've never felt that I was in danger in Vegas.

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    I despise Vegas and everything it stands for. Their ad campaign (cheat on your spouse here) has got to be the sleaziest ads ever run. And a sad commentary on much of what is wrong with our society.
    A city built by organized crime that enriches thugs, seems like they got what they deserve.

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    Is that actually a slogan there? That's despicable.

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    Is that actually a slogan there? That's despicable.
    The slogan is "Las Vegas: What happens here stays here."


    Saying that means "cheat on your wife" is a stretch.

    Is there prostitution in Las Vegas? Of course there is. But it is not legal.
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    To add what Robo posted, the security guard just didn't grab Pacman because he was throwing the money in the air.

    ESPN radio just aired an interview from the co-owner and he said a dancer stopped to pick up some cash around her, and Jones didn't like it. (Eventhough he throught money in the air) So Jones preceeded to slam her face into the stage, and then start hitting her, so the security guard restrained him.

    The guard then was busted over the head with a champagne bottle, and then a fight broke out. Once the fight was over Pacman yelled "I'm gonna fing kill you." Just so happens the guard that restrained Pacman is one of the shooting victims, that was allegedly shot by one of Pacman's friends.

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    I see now why Dat Dude was celebrating.

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    You guys are only talking about this because you like the Colts! It wasn't the fault of the people that were involved. It was Las Vegas' fault.

    Seriously the NBA has a huge image problem on their hands that they may not be able to ever get past.
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    To add what Robo posted, the security guard just didn't grab Pacman because he was throwing the money in the air.

    ESPN radio just aired an interview from the co-owner and he said a dancer stopped to pick up some cash around her, and Jones didn't like it. (Eventhough he throught money in the air) So Jones preceeded to slam her face into the stage, and then start hitting her, so the security guard restrained him.
    What the police said was that Pacman had 80,000 dollars stolen from him, not the money he threw.

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    You guys are only talking about this because you like the Colts! It wasn't the fault of the people that were involved. It was Las Vegas' fault.

    Seriously the NBA has a huge image problem on their hands that they may not be able to ever get past.
    You read the part where an NFL player was central to probably the most serious event of the weekend, right?



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    I wonder if Pac had a roll he pulled out to throw cash from and the dancer made a grab for that instead?

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    You read the part where an NFL player was central to probably the most serious event of the weekend, right?



    DDude-
    I wonder if Pac had a roll he pulled out to throw cash from and the dancer made a grab for that instead?
    What I read said Pacman had a bag next to him with 80,000 grand in it and 2 watches, and it was taken from him and thats why he got mad.

    The police reviewed the tape, and said Pacman is not a suspect in the shooting, nor did he get hit with an assault charge or any other minor charges. The police also allowed Pacman to leave Las Vegas, I dont know if they would do that if they had some **** on him.

    Also Pacman was in the VIP with Nelly and Jermaine Dupri, both rap artists who supposedly had a group of people with them also, it could have been anyone from the other group doing the shooting.

    All I know is Pacman is not going to jail.

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    So he throws the money up into the air to create a "rain" affect, but it was stolen from him? I call bull**** just on the premise.

    What do you do at a strip club? You tip the dancers by either throwing money on the stage, or giving it to them straight up.

    Saying it was "stolen" is laughable.
    "Jones became irate about the loss of his money, and the fact that girls were in a frenzy, picking up the money at their feet," the warrant says.
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    "Las Vegas police recovered more than $81,000 in cash from Mitchell's room that investigators believe belonged to Jones"

    "One of the dancers than took the trash bag filled with Jones' money and a "melee broke out. Jones became irate about the loss of his money"

    "Detectives interviewed Jones on Monday about his time at Minxx.

    Robinson said Jones is not a suspect in the shooting."

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    I think he could have spent a little of that 81 grand to buy a case for his money.

    Seriously, a TRASH BAG???

    That ain't ghetto, that's Hobo.
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    I think he could have spent a little of that 81 grand to buy a case for his money.

    Seriously, a TRASH BAG???

    That ain't ghetto, that's Hobo.
    81,000 thousand in one night big boy, what you doing.

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    I might not have that much money, but at least I have style.

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