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Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

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  • #31
    Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

    Originally posted by Shade View Post
    UB, I completely agree about the obvious double-standard Kravitz applies concerning the Pacers and Colts.
    Why is there a double standard? Kravitz was blasting the Colts all season for having lousy defense and in the past has been all over Manning about his inability to win the big game.
    The poster formerly known as Rimfire

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    • #32
      Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

      Originally posted by DisplacedKnick View Post
      Why is there a double standard? Kravitz was blasting the Colts all season for having lousy defense and in the past has been all over Manning about his inability to win the big game.
      He also spent countless articles lambasting the Colts decision making process when it comes to what kind of people they bring in during the fantastic days of the Shawn King/Fred Lane era.
      Narf!

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      • #33
        Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

        Originally posted by able View Post
        RWB, am I really living in a different world where I "judge" harsher on speeding while DUI then on "fistycuffs" in a bar?

        I just wonder.
        Do you really think without a doubt in your mind that Tinsley, Sjax, et al drove home sober from the bar(s) after their 'incidents'?

        -Bball
        Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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        "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

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        • #34
          Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

          Originally posted by Bball View Post
          Do you really think without a doubt in your mind that Tinsley, Sjax, et al drove home sober from the bar(s) after their 'incidents'?

          -Bball
          With so much police around and alcohol on your breath? No chance they would have given statements to the police and then drove of.
          So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

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          Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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          • #35
            Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

            Originally posted by able View Post
            With so much police around and alcohol on your breath? No chance they would have given statements to the police and then drove of.
            I know for a fact someone had some illegal drugs in his system that night. The other shoe didn't drop in that case, because the friend took the blame.

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            • #36
              Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

              Originally posted by able View Post
              With so much police around and alcohol on your breath? No chance they would have given statements to the police and then drove of.
              I'd say there's every chance of it...

              -Bball
              Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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              "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

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              • #37
                Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                Originally posted by Stryder
                I know for a fact someone had some illegal drugs in his system that night.
                Does this mean someone won't be able to ride in the Tour de France this year?
                PSN: MRat731 XBL: MRat0731

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                • #38
                  Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                  Rhodes was a heck of a player this past season but he was always an undersized mediocre full back IMO. Not taking anything away from what he did for us on our SB run, but come on.... any Colts fan would be lying if they didn't agree that Doms impact this year was anything other than a pleasant surprise.

                  It's not a huge loss if hes not here next season.

                  Other than that I think its obvious that this city is still feeling good about the NFL championship and negative news regarding the Colts doesn't really want to be heard by Indy residents....

                  Is there a double standard... sure.... sooooooooo.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                    Funny, I didn't think I'd be proud of my son if he got caught doing 81 in a 55 or was arrested for beating his girlfriend, but Tony Dungy promised me that there's not a guy on the roster I wouldn't be proud to call my son, so it must be true!

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                    • #40
                      Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                      Originally posted by Eindar View Post
                      Funny, I didn't think I'd be proud of my son if he got caught doing 81 in a 55 or was arrested for beating his girlfriend, but Tony Dungy promised me that there's not a guy on the roster I wouldn't be proud to call my son, so it must be true!
                      The world would be a better place if more dads were like Tony Dungy.

                      http://www.aia.com/media/dungy-sbb06.aspx

                      Too bad Dominic messed up as he's actually pretty cool with the fans.
                      You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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                      • #41
                        Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                        Originally posted by RWB View Post
                        The world would be a better place if more dads were like Tony Dungy.

                        http://www.aia.com/media/dungy-sbb06.aspx

                        Too bad Dominic messed up as he's actually pretty cool with the fans.
                        Dungy's off-field community work is roughly equal to that of Jermaine O'Neal's. I don't see you spouting his praises.

                        Regardless, what does this have to do with all the glowing praise about how every single Colts player is a great guy that you'd be proud to have as a son? Funny, my dad would be ashamed of me if I was a wife-beater who piloted a drunken death-sled around 465. But hey, he's good with the fans, as long as they stay off 465 when he decides he needs to get home in a hurry.

                        If Rhodes had run a family off the road, seriously injuring them or killing someone, would we still be brushing this off? To me, drunk driving is far, far worse than being involved in barfights, because the driver had an easy avenue to prevent him possibly killing someone. If you're in a bar, sometimes you get put into a bad situation that you had no control over. That's never the case with drunk driving. If it were up to me, DUI while speeding would be a class C or D felony.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                          Originally posted by Eindar View Post
                          Dungy's off-field community work is roughly equal to that of Jermaine O'Neal's. I don't see you spouting his praises.

                          Regardless, what does this have to do with all the glowing praise about how every single Colts player is a great guy that you'd be proud to have as a son? Funny, my dad would be ashamed of me if I was a wife-beater who piloted a drunken death-sled around 465. But hey, he's good with the fans, as long as they stay off 465 when he decides he needs to get home in a hurry.

                          If Rhodes had run a family off the road, seriously injuring them or killing someone, would we still be brushing this off? To me, drunk driving is far, far worse than being involved in barfights, because the driver had an easy avenue to prevent him possibly killing someone. If you're in a bar, sometimes you get put into a bad situation that you had no control over. That's never the case with drunk driving. If it were up to me, DUI while speeding would be a class C or D felony.

                          I stand corrected. In the future Tony Dungy should A. Not mention his players or B. Say most of my team is made up of good guys, but not all.

                          Jermaine O'Neal represents the community well with the many charities he supports and speeches to young people about the dangers in life. Hopefully Tony Dungy is willing to take the extra effort and surpass Jermaine in this.

                          You're mistaken if you think I'm happy or condone what Dominic Rhodes did. At that speed even if he wasn't drinking is reckless indeed. I assume you took my statement too bad for Dominic as I'm ok with this. As stated above I'm not. Am I ok with beating wives? I can assure you I am not. What I can tell you is I have had the opportunity to talk with Dominic and his family many times and from what I have observed they are a typical close family. Do I know what goes on behind closed doors no I don't. I can only base my opinion on what I see and from what I've seen with my own eyes the guy is decent.

                          To tie this all up Eindar I'm not happy that our Pacers are getting hammered in the papers. I'm not happy when the athletes that represent my teams (Colts included) have their head up the backside and mess up. Because of the Brawl everything does get blown out proportion. Shoot what kind of story is it when they have to publish Dallas Clark is asked to leave a high school game. Getting a little crazy and absurd.

                          Hey if it makes people feel better that the Colts are not angels then so be it. You might be surprised I've never been under the allusion this is true.
                          You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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                          • #43
                            Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                            Originally posted by Eindar View Post
                            Dungy's off-field community work is roughly equal to that of Jermaine O'Neal's. I don't see you spouting his praises.
                            Uh, hardly. Don't get me wrong - JO does some really good things and has been honored for charity work.

                            But it doesn't compare with the level Dungy's at when you look at his work with various ministries, FCA, Mentors for Life, Family First, homeless shelters and soup kitchens, etc.

                            This isn't a knock on JO - Dungy has 20 years on him and JO has certainly done some good things but there's no way anyone can say their community service work is close to equal.
                            The poster formerly known as Rimfire

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                            • #44
                              Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                              Originally posted by DisplacedKnick View Post
                              Uh, hardly. Don't get me wrong - JO does some really good things and has been honored for charity work.

                              But it doesn't compare with the level Dungy's at when you look at his work with various ministries, FCA, Mentors for Life, Family First, homeless shelters and soup kitchens, etc.

                              This isn't a knock on JO - Dungy has 20 years on him and JO has certainly done some good things but there's no way anyone can say their community service work is close to equal.
                              I meant what they did on a yearly basis, not what they've done in their livetime

                              Regardless, I should probably be writing the Star about this, not ranting on here.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Dominic Rhodes Under Arrest

                                Report: Rhodes failed 2 sobriety tests

                                By Jon Murray
                                jon.murray@indystar.com


                                Indianapolis Colts running back Dominic Rhodes on Thursday was charged with two misdemeanors alleging that he was drunk while driving on a local interstate at more than 80 mph early Tuesday

                                More details of the arrest emerged in a probable cause affidavit, a sworn statement filed by state police Trooper Ahmad I. Hafez to document the charges.

                                Hafez said he clocked Rhodes at 82 mph in a 55-mph zone and watched the Colts player's GMC Yukon drive onto the shoulder briefly just after 3 a.m. Tuesday on northbound I-65 near 71st Street.

                                After failing two field-sobriety tests, Rhodes told Hafez he had consumed two or three alcoholic drinks. While sitting in the police car's front seat, Rhodes urinated on himself, the report said.
                                Later, Rhodes' blood-alcohol level tested at 0.09, just over the 0.08 level at which an Indiana driver is considered drunk.

                                "Mr. Rhodes asked if I could allow his girlfriend to come and get him instead of me taking him into custody," Hafez wrote. "I told him no."

                                The charges are a Class A misdemeanor for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and a Class C misdemeanor for operating a vehicle while having a blood-alcohol level between .08 and .15. If Rhodes, 28, is convicted of the charges, the maximum penalty is up to one year in jail, but typically a first-time DUI conviction brings probation and other penalties.

                                The initial hearing is scheduled for 1 p.m. Monday at Marion Superior Court.
                                Colts make moves

                                The Colts added former Ball State punter Reggie Hodges and released safety Dexter Reid, defensive end Jonathan Welsh and tight end Jerome Collins. Hodges signed a three-year contract at the league-minimum salary.
                                IndyStar*com

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