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    I think that as he matures he WILL be a PG, and his game may resemble a young Baron Davis with a combination of strength and hops. He will likely have a lot more range than Baron, even with an NBA line. He will need to improve his passing ability.

    Some guys who are naturally tiny 2-guards resist the insistance that they become PGs but others (Chauncey Billups for example) embrace it and eventually become good playmakers as well. From what I've seen he has the necessary basketball IQ, vision, and demeanor to be a legit PG.

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    Until he plays against tougher competition, a smallish shooting guard does not deserve the throne IMO. I don't care what he looks like against less physically developed competition. He could be the next Shawn Respert.

    Obviously, you have no clue what happened to Shawn, so I'll fill you in because that's an extremely low blow to him without it.

    Shawn couldn't play basketball anymore, not because he wasn't good enough, because he wasn't healthy enough. He was diagnosed with abdomen cancer in 1996, and just left the NBA without telling people why. He didn't even tell his parents that he had cancer.

    Shawn's name should NEVER come into discussion about being busts.

    Here's a pretty good article on his "secret battle."
    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=290060

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    The thing I don't think is focused on enough about Gordon is his tremendous heart and leadership. I remember watching him my junior year (so his sophomore year) play Oden and Conley in the Regional finals at Hinkle. That LN team was stacked they had a great senior class and Oden and Jr, Gordon almost willed his completely undermanned NC to a victory as a sophomore. I have thought very highly of him ever since.

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    You're right...Hall of Famers from the 70s are clearly irrelevant to the discussion of basketball.
    as opposed to my REAL point (which most posters could grasp) which is if you have to go back 30 years to come up with a list of 6 or so names, that's pretty weak.

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    Obviously, you have no clue what happened to Shawn, so I'll fill you in because that's an extremely low blow to him without it.

    Shawn couldn't play basketball anymore, not because he wasn't good enough, because he wasn't healthy enough. He was diagnosed with abdomen cancer in 1996, and just left the NBA without telling people why. He didn't even tell his parents that he had cancer.

    Shawn's name should NEVER come into discussion about being busts.

    Here's a pretty good article on his "secret battle."
    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=290060
    Respert was a VERY good college player. He would have been a fine pro if healthy IMO.

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    don't see how you can possibly have an opinion on the matter unless you have seen the kid play...

    Just by doing the math, you can have an opinion wiothout seeing the kid play.

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    Obviously, you have no clue what happened to Shawn, so I'll fill you in because that's an extremely low blow to him without it.

    Shawn couldn't play basketball anymore, not because he wasn't good enough, because he wasn't healthy enough. He was diagnosed with abdomen cancer in 1996, and just left the NBA without telling people why. He didn't even tell his parents that he had cancer.

    Shawn's name should NEVER come into discussion about being busts.

    Here's a pretty good article on his "secret battle."
    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=290060
    Sorry for his situation. I did not know that. I suspect many people still think he was a bust because it was completely hidden until well after he had left the spotlight.

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    as opposed to my REAL point (which most posters could grasp) which is if you have to go back 30 years to come up with a list of 6 or so names, that's pretty weak.
    My bad then, it was just that the "very best of the best" little two guards came to mind first.

    How about we add...Delonte West, Vinnie Johnson, Cuttino Mobley, Bobby Jackson, Jeff Hornacek, Monta Ellis, Luther Head, Charlie Bell, Dee Brown, John Starks, Nate McMillan, Randy Foye, Nate Robinson, Tony Allen, Antonio Daniels

    And with the way perimeter play and speed on the wing is currently being emphasized, I imagine small, lightning-quick SGs are probably on the rise. And of the teams currently starting "small twos", it's interesting that four of them are the Mavs, Heat, Nuggets and Bulls. Phoenix also uses Leandro very often as its "closer" rather than Raja or whoever else.

    Look...I have no idea what Eric Gordon is about, but to say a guy who's 6'3" (and 18 years old, so probably still growing) won't make the League as a SG because of his height seems to be overgeneralizing things.

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    How about we add...Delonte West, Vinnie Johnson, Cuttino Mobley, Bobby Jackson, Jeff Hornacek, Monta Ellis, Luther Head, Charlie Bell, Dee Brown, John Starks, Nate McMillan, Randy Foye, Nate Robinson, Tony Allen, Antonio Daniels
    So the dude's the next Luther Head? Ok, I can agree with that.

    That's different from saying he's the next LaBron, though.
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    So the dude's the next Luther Head? Ok, I can agree with that.

    That's different from saying he's the next LaBron, though.

    The original point was that he is better than Tinsley right now, and I believe that to be true. Granted, I also believe that 30+ point guards (including several backups) in the NBA are better than Tinsley, so I guess it's not saying a whole lot.

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