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    Any random pacemate would be an upgrade over Gill.
    Please. Considering half of them still mess up routines I've got memorized, I don't think so.

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    I say anyone but Gill.

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    Gill is terrible. Honestly, I have not seen as incompetant a PG on the Pacers as him.
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    I think you guys are too hard on Gill. Saturday was his first playoff game. He certainly has his faults, but name another third-string pg who would have contributed as much as he has this year. Brewer? Edney???
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    I think you guys are too hard on Gill. Saturday was his first playoff game. He certainly has his faults, but name another third-string pg who would have contributed as much as he has this year. Brewer? Edney???
    I have nothing against Gill. But I've been lobbying for Freddy to get time at PG for 2 years now.

    Think how much better a situation we'd be in right now if Freddy had more experience at PG.
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    I thought Fred did a decent job last night. He is more of an open court player than a half court player but he handled it better than Gill did.

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    I don't think Gill's skills are needed on this team at all.

    In fact, if we could just count on Tinsley to remain healthy, I'd say we don't even need a 3rd PG. We would have:
    1. Tinsley
    2. AJ
    3. Freddie
    4. Emergencies - SJAX / Artest

    I think that Gill's roster spot would be better filled by a specialist. Maybe a lights out shoot that can do nothing else. Or a defensive stopper without an offensive game.

    In other words, someone extremely gifted at one aspect of the game that has major flaws in most other aspects of the game. Those players can help you for a few possessions at a time, but will not require much more than a minimum contract.

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    I thought Payton was really playing physical on Freddy, knowing that Mr. Jones was playing out of position. Freddie didn't really initiate any offense but at least he wasn't forcing passes and giving up turnovers. Eddie G was pretty poor in that first game.....Sooner or later one of Freddie's drives to the hoop will pay off. Right now he's shooting as bad as Austin.

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    Not a big fan of Fred myself, but that list hardly makes me regret picking him. Don't think any of those players would be helping us much more.

    ..Curtis Borchardt though? Hope you meant Carlos Boozer or something.
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    this is a bit off topic but every single time i see his name i just start laughing
    because a nickname i gave him was "CARDIAC BORCHARDT", cardiac came from a nickname ron artest was given, "cardiac artest" (cardiac arrest) and for some reason i gave it to him...you guys might not find this funny, but decided to share it anyways

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    Everyone here seems to be watching a different team than me.

    Fred Jones is an excellent player for the money

    He is a solid defender....and in the beginning of the season he was stroking it from three. He fell into a slump, but the man has played in more games than anyone on our team this season. Fred seems out of gas to me, he is young and needs proper conditioning....NBA conditioning.

    Fred Jones to me will peak at a Stephen Jackson esque level. Probably not all-star caliber, but right there.

    We gotta keep Jones. If he learns anything from being a teammate with Reggie Miller, he should be good.

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    Its not you JT,,,, most of these posts are from over a year ago.

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    Default Re: Freddy Jones for Backup PG

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    I don't think Gill's skills are needed on this team at all.

    In fact, if we could just count on Tinsley to remain healthy, I'd say we don't even need a 3rd PG. We would have:
    1. Tinsley
    2. AJ
    3. Freddie
    4. Emergencies - SJAX / Artest

    I think that Gill's roster spot would be better filled by a specialist. Maybe a lights out shoot that can do nothing else. Or a defensive stopper without an offensive game.

    In other words, someone extremely gifted at one aspect of the game that has major flaws in most other aspects of the game. Those players can help you for a few possessions at a time, but will not require much more than a minimum contract.
    You're right that in general, you don't need a 3rd point. Who was the guy behind Jax and Best? Exactly. Even better if you have a combo guard like Freddie who can at least guard the 1, even if he doesn't know how to "point" himself. But when you're starting pg misses half the year, you need more than Freddie to handle the minutes.
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