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    Default QOD: How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans? {Pacers.com 01.24.07}

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    How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans?


    Wednesday, Jan. 24, 2007

    Q. Upon hearing of the trade between Indiana and Golden State, I was confused what Ike Diogu is going to bring to the team. There aren't many openings for him if my guess on the lineups is correct, but he is a power player that looked good in college. What do you think the lineups will be and how will Diogu fit in to them? (From Larry in Seattle, Wash.)

    A. The youngest and possibly the most talented of the four players acquired from the Warriors, Diogu is 23 and figures prominently into the Pacers' plans for both the present and future. He will require some initial patience, however, because he's in the process of learning his third different system in 1½ NBA seasons.

    As a rookie, he played under defensive-minded former Stanford Coach Mike Montgomery at Golden State. Don Nelson, whose wide-open small-ball approach is radically different, replaced Montgomery six weeks before training camp opened. And now, less than halfway into his second season, Diogu finds himself playing for a more traditionally structured NBA system under Rick Carlisle.

    Small wonder, then, he hasn't played a lot in his first couple of appearances with the Pacers. While veterans Mike Dunleavy and Troy Murphy have been able to make a relatively seamless transition because of their experience, Diogu will need a bit more time to not only learn the new system but establish his place in the rotations. It seems pretty clear, once he gets comfortable, he will play regularly. The second unit could use his scoring ability and the team in general needs another post presence.


    Diogu already has established that when he has the opportunity to play extended minutes, he generally plays well. In 24 career games in which he has played at least 20 minutes, Diogu has averaged 12.1 points and 6.2 rebounds while shooting .594 from the field. He opened this season in the Warriors' regular rotation but after spending a month on the inactive list with a sprained left ankle, he was used less frequently. In the seven games in which he played at least 15 minutes, he averaged 10.9 points and 4.9 rebounds while shooting .586 from the field.


    Count on Diogu getting the chance to show what he can do with consistent playing time. It may not happen right away but there's every indication it will happen.
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    Default Re: QOD: How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans? {Pacers.com 01.24.07}

    Dunleavy and Murphy are gravy. This trade was made to aquire Ike, and I can't wait until he is ready (along with Shawne, Granger, and an older O'Neal) to start the next era of Pacer basketball. Assuming we find the answer at point guard by then, this team will be very good in three years.

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    Default Re: QOD: How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans? {Pacers.com 01.24.07}

    I like our potential. What we really need is a point guard who can run a good half court offense. If we are going to stick with Carlisle, we need to give him the pieces for a half court offense. Diogu, Murphy, and Dunleavy is a pretty good start, but we still need a PG who knows when to push and not to push.

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    Default Re: QOD: How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans? {Pacers.com 01.24.07}

    I like Ike. But he's most useful as a bargaining chip for a better point guard.
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    Default Re: QOD: How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans? {Pacers.com 01.24.07}

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    I like Ike. But he's most useful as a bargaining chip for a better point guard.

    I doubt that we could get enough out of a point guard to replicate his worth. I would rather trade Tinsley and Harrison for a solid all-around PG who focuses on managing the game and not making mistakes and roll with a rotation of Granger, JO, Williams, Diogu, Murphy, Dunleavy, Foster, Daniels, and whomever Tinsley and Harrison net.

    I agree in theory that trading Tinsley (I assume you would trade Tinsley) and Ike for a point guard of the calibur of those two players combined is a good idea in theory. But who? All of the PGs I can think of are either a) out of reach, or b) not enough of an upgrade to compensate for the loss of Diogu.

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    Default Re: QOD: How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans? {Pacers.com 01.24.07}

    Quote Originally Posted by FlavaDave View Post
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    I doubt that we could get enough out of a point guard to replicate his worth. I would rather trade Tinsley and Harrison for a solid all-around PG who focuses on managing the game and not making mistakes and roll with a rotation of Granger, JO, Williams, Diogu, Murphy, Dunleavy, Foster, Daniels, and whomever Tinsley and Harrison net.

    I agree in theory that trading Tinsley (I assume you would trade Tinsley) and Ike for a point guard of the calibur of those two players combined is a good idea in theory. But who? All of the PGs I can think of are either a) out of reach, or b) not enough of an upgrade to compensate for the loss of Diogu.

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    WHAT? HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR SPECIFICS!

    Yeah, I guess I'm guilty. That being said, I don't think Diogu's going to be as valuable for us as he will for another team. We've got Jermaine sucking up his minutes, and we're in a win-now mode. There are far more good PFs out there than good PGs.
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    Default Re: QOD: How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans? {Pacers.com 01.24.07}

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthem View Post
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    WHAT? HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR SPECIFICS!

    Yeah, I guess I'm guilty. That being said, I don't think Diogu's going to be as valuable for us as he will for another team. We've got Jermaine sucking up his minutes, and we're in a win-now mode. There are far more good PFs out there than good PGs.
    But do we have JO after next season when he can opt out of his contract? Ike is certainly a nice insurance policy to have just for that reason. Not to mention you can NEVER have enough quality low post players. And counting Ike we only have 2.

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    Default Re: QOD: How Does Diogu Figure Into Pacers’ Plans? {Pacers.com 01.24.07}

    Any player that can shoot 13 of 15 in a game against the Pistons last season is a guy who can score. I didn't watch the game, so I would be interested in Kstats opinion

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