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  • #46
    Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

    Originally posted by Dat Dude View Post
    JO should have shot that last shot of the game. Granger is not ready to take game ending shot, he is 0 for 3 on them and I dont know why he keeps getting a chance to do it.

    GIVE JO THE DAMN BALL.
    And how many game winners has JO hit, granted Granger hasn't it many if any. But JO's I guarantee could be counted on one had. Not like he is clutch.

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    • #47
      Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

      Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
      The refs will be fined or suspended for that one call where they first said it was a jump ball, then Pacers ball, and then Knicks ball. We'll never hear anything about it, but that is the type of thing.

      That was as bad a call I've seen all season in any game.

      I'm off to watch the Warriors
      Me too UB, this should be a fun one.

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      • #48
        Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

        Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post

        Let me start by saying the Knicks played very well even though they had too many turnovers, but they really shot the ball well. And for anyone who thinks David Lee just tore the pacers up - yes he did, but he's been doing that over the past couple of weeks - 8 straight double-doubles.
        Been watching the Knicks all year, UC, and I've commented on their improved play and their many fine young players.

        As you saw tonight, Eddy Curry is unstoppable and his game is getting better and better (in terms of defense and rebounding). (I at one time envisioned Harrison as a Curry clone (somewhat) but with Rick in charge, I've given up all hope --- Curry was given a LONG chance while he struggled; Harrison basically got NO CHANCE.)

        Frye has a sweet stroke and when he learns to consistently put the ball on the floor and not take fouls he will be a fine player.

        Lee, as I mentioned on previous threads, is a FLAT out STAR ---he's a superior rebounder, a quick jumper, has a very nice handle, and is incredibly athletic. His game is getting better and better with each outing. (Jeffries is taking some of his minutes but not for long) Next year, with increased offensive production (and some point forward play) his value is through the roof. Just think, the GREAT LARRY BROWN, when asked about Lee on a local talk show last year, opined (after some urging) that Lee would be a good role player at best.

        Nate Robinson is quick as hell and very good offensively.

        You guys didn't get to see Balkman tonight BUT he's incredibly active and will also be a very fine player.

        Seems like Isaiah, yes the much maligned Isaiah, has done quite well in the talent evaluation department.

        Add, Crawford, who can get to the rim whenever he wants and is CLUTCH, Richardson, who is shooting lights out lately and can post up just about anybody, and the rejuvinated Marbuy and you have quite a nice team.

        I realize you boys in the midwest don't get to see too much in the way of ATHLETIC teams, of course, the taking of a CHARGE is the standard by which players are judged out there, BUT tonight you all witnessed what basketball played by ATHLETIC players is all about.

        Danny Granger is a good player but he'll never be better than LEE.

        Shawne Williams has potential but he's probably not going to be the player Frye is or that Balkman will become. In other words, the KNICKS UP SIDE is huge while the Pacers, lacking a 2007 #1, basically have none.

        Which brings us back to the incredibly poor decision of giving up Artest and a #1 for Al Harrington. I'll never get over this and will continue gravitating over to the KNicks for entertaining basketball.

        The new players are good BUT not good enough.

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        • #49
          Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

          Ed Smith is real...nicknamed Booger...and still plays. Seriously, is this guy available?

          http://www.villagevoice.com/news/002...i,16175,3.html

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          • #50
            Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

            Originally posted by Destined4Greatness View Post
            And how many game winners has JO hit, granted Granger hasn't it many if any. But JO's I guarantee could be counted on one had. Not like he is clutch.
            JO has hit more then Danny (0)

            I dare you to say one positive thing about JO. I bet you cant do it.

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            • #51
              Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

              Originally posted by Destined4Greatness View Post
              And how many game winners has JO hit, granted Granger hasn't it many if any. But JO's I guarantee could be counted on one had. Not like he is clutch.
              This was Tinsley's fault wasn't it? He dribbled upcourt pretty slowly and what else was Danny supposed to do after that hand-off outside the 3-pt line with 1.5 seconds left aside from launch a 27-footer?
              Read my Pacers blog:
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              • #52
                Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
                I do want to comment on the attendance. 15,300 - that is horrible on a Saturday night in the middle of January with 4 new players.
                Normally I'd agree. But there is, you know, this OTHER Indianapolis team with a game this weekend...

                People might be a bit preoccupied for the next couple weeks. Give it time, the fans will come...

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                • #53
                  Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                  Originally posted by avoidingtheclowns View Post
                  no and i understand that, i just am curious as to why, after he finally gave quis court time and quis responded, he wouldn't try to stick with it (as we may have found something that worked). i know its hard to make a case for just one guy, but i just mentioned i was disappointed that we didn't stick with the same philosophy... thats all i was saying

                  He didn't play that well tonight; that's why he didn't get that many minutes. I wish Rick would've taken Jamaal out for the same reason.



                  Okay, two games in a row we've let the opponent shoot over 50%. That is not good. If it happens again soon there's reason for concern.


                  Did anyone know we are the 4th worst shooting team in the league? Guess that happens when your pg is chucking it at a 33% rate and your guys aren't moving on offense.


                  I can't believe we lost to the Knicks. They're an awful team with a bad record in the 2nd of back-to-backs, yet they beat us. I'm getting frustrated with these poor efforts.


                  And what a really questionable coaching move to go for 2 and then foul with no timeouts and 6 seconds to go. Even if he misses both free throws, that puts us in an awful position to execute. ::shakes head::

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                  • #54
                    Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                    Originally posted by v_d_g View Post
                    Been watching the Knicks all year, UC, and I've commented on their improved play and their many fine young players.

                    As you saw tonight, Eddy Curry is unstoppable and his game is getting better and better (in terms of defense and rebounding). (I at one time envisioned Harrison as a Curry clone (somewhat) but with Rick in charge, I've given up all hope --- Curry was given a LONG chance while he struggled; Harrison basically got NO CHANCE.)

                    Frye has a sweet stroke and when he learns to consistently put the ball on the floor and not take fouls he will be a fine player.

                    Lee, as I mentioned on previous threads, is a FLAT out STAR ---he's a superior rebounder, a quick jumper, has a very nice handle, and is incredibly athletic. His game is getting better and better with each outing. (Jeffries is taking some of his minutes but not for long) Next year, with increased offensive production (and some point forward play) his value is through the roof. Just think, the GREAT LARRY BROWN, when asked about Lee on a local talk show last year, opined (after some urging) that Lee would be a good role player at best.

                    Nate Robinson is quick as hell and very good offensively.

                    You guys didn't get to see Balkman tonight BUT he's incredibly active and will also be a very fine player.

                    Seems like Isaiah, yes the much maligned Isaiah, has done quite well in the talent evaluation department.

                    Add, Crawford, who can get to the rim whenever he wants and is CLUTCH, Richardson, who is shooting lights out lately and can post up just about anybody, and the rejuvinated Marbuy and you have quite a nice team.

                    I realize you boys in the midwest don't get to see too much in the way of ATHLETIC teams, of course, the taking of a CHARGE is the standard by which players are judged out there, BUT tonight you all witnessed what basketball played by ATHLETIC players is all about.

                    Danny Granger is a good player but he'll never be better than LEE.

                    Shawne Williams has potential but he's probably not going to be the player Frye is or that Balkman will become. In other words, the KNICKS UP SIDE is huge while the Pacers, lacking a 2007 #1, basically have none.

                    Which brings us back to the incredibly poor decision of giving up Artest and a #1 for Al Harrington. I'll never get over this and will continue gravitating over to the KNicks for entertaining basketball.

                    The new players are good BUT not good enough.
                    Spike Lee is that you?

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                    • #55
                      Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                      Originally posted by imawhat View Post
                      Okay, two games in a row we've let the opponent shoot over 50%. That is not good. If it happens again soon there's reason for concern.


                      Did anyone know we are the 4th worst shooting team in the league? Guess that happens when your pg is chucking it at a 33% rate and your guys aren't moving on offense.

                      Play Greene or Quis at PG, and the problem would easily be solved. They would not allow that type of penetration. If they need another guard to play SG, put Marshall out there...another good defender who is ready for more minutes. Dunleavy could definitely be the playmaker. He is a prototypical point-forward. Perfect for this system IMO.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                        Tinsley blew it for us down the stretch, trying to take the Knicks one-on-one several times when he shouldn't have, and then he didn't try to take them one-on-one when he should have, on the last play. He is good with the ball, I like his aggression, I like his talent. He even played passable defense tonight. But his game management is not good and it is pretty much never good.

                        Dunleavy looked nice for a while in the third, then got a bit overconfident, but that was nothing a lot of our recent players (Artest, Jackson, Tinsley, etc.) haven't done.

                        Murphy, eh. His defense was nothing to write home about...I'm not sure anything he did was epistle-worthy.

                        I do not understand how Marquis Daniels isn't playing 30 minutes a night. Good things happen when this man has the ball.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                          Originally posted by v_d_g View Post
                          Been watching the Knicks all year, UC, and I've commented on their improved play and their many fine young players.

                          As you saw tonight, Eddy Curry is unstoppable and his game is getting better and better (in terms of defense and rebounding). (I at one time envisioned Harrison as a Curry clone (somewhat) but with Rick in charge, I've given up all hope --- Curry was given a LONG chance while he struggled; Harrison basically got NO CHANCE.)

                          Frye has a sweet stroke and when he learns to consistently put the ball on the floor and not take fouls he will be a fine player.

                          Lee, as I mentioned on previous threads, is a FLAT out STAR ---he's a superior rebounder, a quick jumper, has a very nice handle, and is incredibly athletic. His game is getting better and better with each outing. (Jeffries is taking some of his minutes but not for long) Next year, with increased offensive production (and some point forward play) his value is through the roof. Just think, the GREAT LARRY BROWN, when asked about Lee on a local talk show last year, opined (after some urging) that Lee would be a good role player at best.

                          Nate Robinson is quick as hell and very good offensively.

                          You guys didn't get to see Balkman tonight BUT he's incredibly active and will also be a very fine player.

                          Seems like Isaiah, yes the much maligned Isaiah, has done quite well in the talent evaluation department.

                          Add, Crawford, who can get to the rim whenever he wants and is CLUTCH, Richardson, who is shooting lights out lately and can post up just about anybody, and the rejuvinated Marbuy and you have quite a nice team.

                          I realize you boys in the midwest don't get to see too much in the way of ATHLETIC teams, of course, the taking of a CHARGE is the standard by which players are judged out there, BUT tonight you all witnessed what basketball played by ATHLETIC players is all about.

                          Danny Granger is a good player but he'll never be better than LEE.

                          Shawne Williams has potential but he's probably not going to be the player Frye is or that Balkman will become. In other words, the KNICKS UP SIDE is huge while the Pacers, lacking a 2007 #1, basically have none.

                          Which brings us back to the incredibly poor decision of giving up Artest and a #1 for Al Harrington. I'll never get over this and will continue gravitating over to the KNicks for entertaining basketball.

                          The new players are good BUT not good enough.
                          A knicks fan trash talking?

                          Must be nice to be almost out of the lottery for once. How much are the Knicks paying again for their roster?

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                          • #58
                            Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                            On the post game show on WIBC, during the interview of Rick, he said that the play was to get it to JO for a close shot to force overtime, but Tinsley couldn't get it to him, so he shoveled it to Danny for a 3.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                              Originally posted by v_d_g View Post
                              Been watching the Knicks all year, UC, and I've commented on their improved play and their many fine young players.

                              As you saw tonight, Eddy Curry is unstoppable and his game is getting better and better (in terms of defense and rebounding). (I at one time envisioned Harrison as a Curry clone (somewhat) but with Rick in charge, I've given up all hope --- Curry was given a LONG chance while he struggled; Harrison basically got NO CHANCE.)

                              Frye has a sweet stroke and when he learns to consistently put the ball on the floor and not take fouls he will be a fine player.

                              Lee, as I mentioned on previous threads, is a FLAT out STAR ---he's a superior rebounder, a quick jumper, has a very nice handle, and is incredibly athletic. His game is getting better and better with each outing. (Jeffries is taking some of his minutes but not for long) Next year, with increased offensive production (and some point forward play) his value is through the roof. Just think, the GREAT LARRY BROWN, when asked about Lee on a local talk show last year, opined (after some urging) that Lee would be a good role player at best.

                              Nate Robinson is quick as hell and very good offensively.

                              You guys didn't get to see Balkman tonight BUT he's incredibly active and will also be a very fine player.

                              Seems like Isaiah, yes the much maligned Isaiah, has done quite well in the talent evaluation department.

                              Add, Crawford, who can get to the rim whenever he wants and is CLUTCH, Richardson, who is shooting lights out lately and can post up just about anybody, and the rejuvinated Marbuy and you have quite a nice team.

                              I realize you boys in the midwest don't get to see too much in the way of ATHLETIC teams, of course, the taking of a CHARGE is the standard by which players are judged out there, BUT tonight you all witnessed what basketball played by ATHLETIC players is all about.

                              Danny Granger is a good player but he'll never be better than LEE.

                              Shawne Williams has potential but he's probably not going to be the player Frye is or that Balkman will become. In other words, the KNICKS UP SIDE is huge while the Pacers, lacking a 2007 #1, basically have none.

                              Which brings us back to the incredibly poor decision of giving up Artest and a #1 for Al Harrington. I'll never get over this and will continue gravitating over to the KNicks for entertaining basketball.

                              The new players are good BUT not good enough.
                              A knicks fan trash talking about our future potential?

                              Must be nice to be almost out of the lottery for once. How much are the Knicks paying again for their roster?

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                              • #60
                                Re: Post Game Thread - Loss To Knicks

                                Originally posted by v_d_g View Post
                                Been watching the Knicks all year, UC, and I've commented on their improved play and their many fine young players.

                                As you saw tonight, Eddy Curry is unstoppable and his game is getting better and better (in terms of defense and rebounding). (I at one time envisioned Harrison as a Curry clone (somewhat) but with Rick in charge, I've given up all hope --- Curry was given a LONG chance while he struggled; Harrison basically got NO CHANCE.)

                                Frye has a sweet stroke and when he learns to consistently put the ball on the floor and not take fouls he will be a fine player.

                                Lee, as I mentioned on previous threads, is a FLAT out STAR ---he's a superior rebounder, a quick jumper, has a very nice handle, and is incredibly athletic. His game is getting better and better with each outing. (Jeffries is taking some of his minutes but not for long) Next year, with increased offensive production (and some point forward play) his value is through the roof. Just think, the GREAT LARRY BROWN, when asked about Lee on a local talk show last year, opined (after some urging) that Lee would be a good role player at best.

                                Nate Robinson is quick as hell and very good offensively.

                                You guys didn't get to see Balkman tonight BUT he's incredibly active and will also be a very fine player.

                                Seems like Isaiah, yes the much maligned Isaiah, has done quite well in the talent evaluation department.

                                Add, Crawford, who can get to the rim whenever he wants and is CLUTCH, Richardson, who is shooting lights out lately and can post up just about anybody, and the rejuvinated Marbuy and you have quite a nice team.

                                I realize you boys in the midwest don't get to see too much in the way of ATHLETIC teams, of course, the taking of a CHARGE is the standard by which players are judged out there, BUT tonight you all witnessed what basketball played by ATHLETIC players is all about.

                                Danny Granger is a good player but he'll never be better than LEE.

                                Shawne Williams has potential but he's probably not going to be the player Frye is or that Balkman will become. In other words, the KNICKS UP SIDE is huge while the Pacers, lacking a 2007 #1, basically have none.

                                Which brings us back to the incredibly poor decision of giving up Artest and a #1 for Al Harrington. I'll never get over this and will continue gravitating over to the KNicks for entertaining basketball.

                                The new players are good BUT not good enough.
                                I'll have to go find the post where I pegged you as a troll within your first 30 posts. I'll try not to pull a muscle patting myself on the back, however.

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