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    That thinks another trade must be waiting in the wings? I just feel like this deal puts us with some interesting decisions to make involving the future.



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    I was just about to post the same thing. The roster feels really unbalanced.
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    Hear hear. Thought the same thing.

    Gotta be quick, though. Inside of 24 hours. There's not enough time for the dust to clear before the ASB.
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    Default Re: Am I the only one...

    We now have JO, Foster, Diogu and Murphy at the 4 and 5. I think Murphy or Foster could be gone before the all-star break. I just really don't see who starts at the two right now unless we go with something like Tins, Granger, Dunleavy, JO, Foster.



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    Could we be acquiring bigs to make a move for Kidd?
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    I understand taking on DunDun with Diogu as a condition......something that Mullin has been desperately trying to do for the last season.....but taking on Murphy makes ZERO sense.

    Making no moves would leave us with ZERO Salary-Cap flexibility until the end of the decade....something that I thought that TPTB were hoping to do.

    There is no way that any team is going to take Murphy's huge@ss long term contract. I hope I'm wrong....but I really think that this is a precursor move in moving JONeal ( while his trade value is at an all-time high ) before the Trade Deadline. I'm hoping that its going to be JONeal+Tinsley for Kidd+Nenad.
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    I just had another thought...Dunleavy to the Clips for Maggette?
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    I just had another thought...Dunleavy to the Clips for Maggette?
    Yes, this popped into my mind just a second ago as well. Color me a happy camper if we get Maggz.

    Tins
    Maggz
    Granger
    JO
    Murphy

    I could roll with that.



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    We need to upgrade the backcourt - no doubt - but we've needed to do that for about 6 or 7 years

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    Hear hear. Thought the same thing.

    Gotta be quick, though. Inside of 24 hours. There's not enough time for the dust to clear before the ASB.

    I don't think it has to be quick, they could just wait until the offseason.

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    I don't disagree at all that another trade is looming. I just can't figure out which one. I would say Dunleavy to the Clips for some sort of deal involving Maggette, but didn't the Clips squash that whole rumor that daddy wanted son to play for him?
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    Yeah....I'm expecting another move here.

    And there are actually a lot of things that could happen.

    Dunleavy, Foster and Shawne to the Clips for Maggette and Cuttino?

    Diogu, Foster and some other stuff to the Nets for JKidd or Carter?

    JO for some Baby Bulls?

    JO for some Celtics young'ns?

    Something for Gasol?

    Not sure how I'd feel about any of these, but it's interesting nonetheless.
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    I know this isn't the trade forum, but it seems relevant enough to this thread, so...

    GET:
    Mike Dunleavy

    GET:
    Jeff Foster
    Troy Murphy
    Jamaal Tinsley

    :thepacers: GET:
    Jason Kidd
    Corey Maggette

    Diogu/Harrison/Baston
    JO/Marshall
    Granger/Williams
    Mags/Quis
    Kidd/Greene/Armstrong/McLeod

    And it works in the trade checker :

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...12~11~17~11~11

    Hmm...
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    I understand taking on DunDun with Diogu as a condition......something that Mullin has been desperately trying to do for the last season.....but taking on Murphy makes ZERO sense.

    Making no moves would leave us with ZERO Salary-Cap flexibility until the end of the decade....something that I thought that TPTB were hoping to do.

    There is no way that any team is going to take Murphy's huge@ss long term contract. I hope I'm wrong....but I really think that this is a precursor move in moving JONeal ( while his trade value is at an all-time high ) before the Trade Deadline. I'm hoping that its going to be JONeal+Tinsley for Kidd+Nenad.
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    I know this isn't the trade forum, but it seems relevant enough to this thread, so...

    GET:
    Mike Dunleavy

    GET:
    Jeff Foster
    Troy Murphy
    Jamaal Tinsley

    :thepacers: GET:
    Jason Kidd
    Corey Maggette

    Diogu/Harrison/Baston
    JO/Marshall
    Granger/Williams
    Mags/Quis
    Kidd/Greene/Armstrong/McLeod

    And it works in the trade checker :

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...12~11~17~11~11

    Hmm...
    Rawle as our backup PF?



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    Rawle as our backup PF?
    Baston would also play some 4. And with Kidd and Mags on the team, I'd be willing to make that sacrifice.
    Skip Bayless:

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    "You bet I'd take Tebow late in games over ARodg."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
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    I know this isn't the trade forum, but it seems relevant enough to this thread, so...

    GET:
    Mike Dunleavy

    GET:
    Jeff Foster
    Troy Murphy
    Jamaal Tinsley

    :thepacers: GET:
    Jason Kidd
    Corey Maggette

    Diogu/Harrison/Baston
    JO/Marshall
    Granger/Williams
    Mags/Quis
    Kidd/Greene/Armstrong/McLeod

    And it works in the trade checker :

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...12~11~17~11~11

    Hmm...
    I could live a lot more with this then what we just did.
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    Baston would also play some 4. And with Kidd and Mags on the team, I'd be willing to make that sacrifice.
    Why not just have Shawne backup the 4 and Quis backup the 2 and 3?



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    JMV is so ignorant.

    The bottom line on salaries is this. Equating Murph and Dun to Jac and Al. We are looking at 1 more year and about 3 million more per year. So that isn't significant. The one extra year is the bad thing, but

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
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    I know this isn't the trade forum, but it seems relevant enough to this thread, so...

    GET:
    Mike Dunleavy

    GET:
    Jeff Foster
    Troy Murphy
    Jamaal Tinsley

    :thepacers: GET:
    Jason Kidd
    Corey Maggette

    Diogu/Harrison/Baston
    JO/Marshall
    Granger/Williams
    Mags/Quis
    Kidd/Greene/Armstrong/McLeod

    And it works in the trade checker :

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...12~11~17~11~11

    Hmm...
    I could live with this a lot better than what we just did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indy0731 View Post
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    Why not just have Shawne backup the 4 and Quis backup the 2 and 3?
    Sure, why not?

    The important thing is, that could possibly be the best starting 5 in the East.
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    "The Houston Texans will forever regret it if they do not take Johnny Manziel with the No. 1 overall pick. He will haunt them."

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    I understand taking on DunDun with Diogu as a condition......something that Mullin has been desperately trying to do for the last season.....but taking on Murphy makes ZERO sense.

    Making no moves would leave us with ZERO Salary-Cap flexibility until the end of the decade....something that I thought that TPTB were hoping to do.

    There is no way that any team is going to take Murphy's huge@ss long term contract. I hope I'm wrong....but I really think that this is a precursor move in moving JONeal ( while his trade value is at an all-time high ) before the Trade Deadline. I'm hoping that its going to be JONeal+Tinsley for Kidd+Nenad.
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    Seems to be pretty clear that there has to be another trade coming. We just gave up 2 of our top 3 or 4 guards and got none back.(I'm not counting the throw in guy) We added 3 forwards to an already crowded front line.
    Somethings got to give.

    And it isn't JO for Grandpa Kidd. (yeh I know, he's damn good)

    I really don't see what this gains us in any way AS IT STANDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
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    I know this isn't the trade forum, but it seems relevant enough to this thread, so...

    GET:
    Mike Dunleavy

    GET:
    Jeff Foster
    Troy Murphy
    Jamaal Tinsley

    :thepacers: GET:
    Jason Kidd
    Corey Maggette

    Diogu/Harrison/Baston
    JO/Marshall
    Granger/Williams
    Mags/Quis
    Kidd/Greene/Armstrong/McLeod

    And it works in the trade checker :

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=250~308~378~2813~2197~1024~275 0~1708~2522~1013~429~497&teams=17~9~9~9~9~17~11~12~11~17~11~11

    Hmm...



    I think that is quite the pipe dream but it's clear something else has to happen. I would be more happy to have kidd at this point than I would magette although kidd stays out of the injury situation more...kidd isn't getting any younger. I don't know what the heck is going to happen, if we have to deal with this lineup you can bank on lottery bound, just ask the warriors. I really want something to happen soon, you should go read some of the posts on ESPN message boards for the pacers, we are currently the laughing stock of the league, and rightfully so.

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    I think that is quite the pipe dream but it's clear something else has to happen. I would be more happy to have kidd at this point than I would magette although kidd stays out of the injury situation more...kidd isn't getting any younger. I don't know what the heck is going to happen, if we have to deal with this lineup you can bank on lottery bound, just ask the warriors. I really want something to happen soon, you should go read some of the posts on ESPN message boards for the pacers, we are currently the laughing stock of the league, and rightfully so.
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