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    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
    Al Harrington
    6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
    18.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.6 minutes
    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    6-4 SG from Maryland
    7.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes
    Incoming
    P.J. Brown
    6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
    9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes
    Ben Gordon
    6-3 SG from Connecticut
    16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
    Mike Sweetney
    6-8 PF from Georgetown
    8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes
    Troy Murphy
    6-11 PF from Notre Dame
    14.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 34.0 minutes
    Mike Dunleavy
    6-8 SF from Duke
    11.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.9 apg in 31.9 minutes
    Jamaal Magloire
    6-11 C from Kentucky
    9.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 30.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +0.4 ppg, +8.5 rpg, and -2.2 apg.

    Chicago Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    P.J. Brown
    6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
    9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes
    Ben Gordon
    6-3 SG from Connecticut
    16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
    Mike Sweetney
    6-8 PF from Georgetown
    8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -13.9 ppg, -6.0 rpg, and -2.5 apg.

    Golden State Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Troy Murphy
    6-11 PF from Notre Dame
    14.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 34.0 minutes
    Mike Dunleavy
    6-8 SF from Duke
    11.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.9 apg in 31.9 minutes
    Incoming
    Al Harrington
    6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
    18.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.6 minutes
    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +9.5 ppg, -4.1 rpg, and +1.6 apg.

    Portland Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jamaal Magloire
    6-11 C from Kentucky
    9.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 30.1 minutes
    Incoming
    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    6-4 SG from Maryland
    7.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +4.0 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and +3.1 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana, Chicago, Golden State and Portland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Chicago, Golden State and Portland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by AesopRockOn View Post
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    wow

    Yea I like it too

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    PG= Tinsley Armstrong White
    SG= Gordon Quis Marshall
    SF= Granger Dunleavy Williams
    PF= Murphy Sweetney Williams Bastion
    C = Maglorie Brown Harrison


    Expiring contracts= Powel, Marshall, Sweetney, Brown, Maglorie

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    wow that trade is truely woeful.

    Gordon is the only decent player we get and he is a defensive liability and a streaky shooter.

    Murphy and Dunleavy are both hopeless and have worse contracts.

    Sweetney, Magloire and Brown are expiring contracts and I struggle to see any of them being resigned.

    I'm sure if we wanted to suck really badly, we could trade JO and Al away for magic beans. Atleast they wouldn't have crappy contracts like Dunleavy and Murphy.

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    Create another account and start your E-Life over.

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    I like to see reactions. I personally like Gordon and am a fan of Murphy's
    Dunleavy sucks but I doubt he is gonna shot at anyone and so you get what you can for Jack before he does something else stupid. Mostly I was messing around I have never liked foster and don't care for saras either. Al is in the way of Granger and I can see him causing problems in the future. Jax2 is Jax2 an idiot that does stupid crap. wife is calling got to go

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    I see what you're trying to do, and that's to fill holes while still remaining competitive. It's admirable, but we give up more talent than we get back, and in the process take back Dunleavy and Murphy, both of which have long, long contracts at more than they're worth right now, let alone in 3 years. That in itself kinda negates the expirings.

    I'd be willing to take one or the other, but not both, unless the pot was dramatically sweetened, like 2-3 1st round picks.

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    Hahahahahaha...I won't go that far in my criticism of the trade, but I don't like it one bit.

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    Hahahahahaha...I won't go that far in my criticism of the trade, but I don't like it one bit.
    I was mostly messing around. I like the Chicago part of the trade. I am not a fan of Foster and Sars so to get rid of them for for an expiring contract is great for me. As far as Jax2 goes I would rather have Dunleavy's bad contract then Jax2 running down the image of a proud team with long history of being a class act. The Harrington for Murphy part was just because Al said Golden State would have been his Ideal fit for him.

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    I like crazy trades, at least for discussion purposes and fun. This one is pretty outlandish, and although I think the Pacers get screwed, it was interesting.

    I think this would certainly change our image from a team with potential and a troubled past to one that was a pushover to trade with.

    Sidenote: Saras's picture looks like he's terrified.

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    REVISED TRADE PLAN

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    6-4 SG from Maryland
    7.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes
    Incoming
    Ben Gordon
    6-3 SG from Connecticut
    16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
    Mike Sweetney
    6-8 PF from Georgetown
    8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes
    Troy Murphy
    6-11 PF from Notre Dame
    14.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 34.0 minutes
    Jamaal Magloire
    6-11 C from Kentucky
    9.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 30.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +14.9 ppg, +7.1 rpg, and -0.4 apg.

    Chicago Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    P.J. Brown
    6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
    9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes
    Ben Gordon
    6-3 SG from Connecticut
    16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
    Mike Sweetney
    6-8 PF from Georgetown
    8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -13.9 ppg, -6.0 rpg, and -2.5 apg.

    Golden State Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Troy Murphy
    6-11 PF from Notre Dame
    14.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 34.0 minutes
    Incoming
    P.J. Brown
    6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
    9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -5.0 ppg, -2.7 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

    Portland Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jamaal Magloire
    6-11 C from Kentucky
    9.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 30.1 minutes
    Incoming
    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    6-4 SG from Maryland
    7.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +4.0 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and +3.1 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana, Chicago, Golden State and Portland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Chicago, Golden State and Portland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    PG BEN GORDON JAMAL TINSLEY D.A.
    SG QUIS JAX2
    SF AL GRANGER
    PF TROY MURPHY MICHEAL SWEETNEY BASTON
    C JAMALL MAGLORIE DAVID HARRISON

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    It's still bad, just give it up man.
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    Why in the world do you keep trying to trade JO for corn puffs? Have you been watching him lately?
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    Why in the world do you keep trying to trade JO for corn puffs? Have you been watching him lately?

    If he is demanding a trade what do you do. If he is moved I believe Ben Gordon is a very good player that is going to be great in time. I would not call him a corn puff. If he is happy here that is great I would still like to see us try to trade for Maglorie. Foster just does not cut it in my eye's as our Center. I would still love to go after Gordon he is by far much better than any of our guards.

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Al Harrington
    6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
    18.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Ben Gordon
    6-3 SG from Connecticut
    16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
    Mike Sweetney
    6-8 PF from Georgetown
    8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +6.4 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and +0.8 apg.

    Chicago Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Ben Gordon
    6-3 SG from Connecticut
    16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
    Mike Sweetney
    6-8 PF from Georgetown
    8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Al Harrington
    6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
    18.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -6.4 ppg, -1.1 rpg, and -0.8 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana and Chicago being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Chicago had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    As far as I'm concerned if Chicago wants JO they have to start their offer with Kirk Hinrick and their 2007 #1. Plus of course their option of trading their #1 for the Knicks #1.

    This trade plus their #1 works.

    Chicago Bulls

    Incoming Players
    Photo: Jermaine O'Neal
    Jermaine O'Neal
    Salary: $18,084,000 Years Remaining: 3
    PTS: 19.2 REB: 10.5 AST: 3.0 PER: 21.35
    Photo: Jamaal Tinsley
    Jamaal Tinsley
    Salary: $5,850,000 Years Remaining: 5
    PTS: 12.7 REB: 3.5 AST: 6.3 PER: 15.42

    Outgoing Players: Kirk Hinrich, Ben Wallace
    Indiana Pacers

    Incoming Players
    Photo: Kirk Hinrich
    Kirk Hinrich
    Salary: $3,192,628 Years Remaining: 6
    PTS: 14.4 REB: 2.7 AST: 5.9 PER: 15.31
    Photo: Ben Wallace
    Ben Wallace
    Salary: $16,000,000 Years Remaining: 4
    PTS: 6.8 REB: 10.3 AST: 2.2 PER: 14.91

    That would make our lineup look like this;

    PF 6'9 Harrington/ 6'10 Baston/ 6'9 Powell
    SF 6'9 Grange/ 6'9 Williams
    c 6'9 Wallace/6-11 Foster/7'0 Harrison
    P 6'3 Hinrick/6'4 Saras/6'1 Armstrong/ 6'4 Greene
    SG 6'8 Jax/ 6'6Daniels/ 6'7 Marshall

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    If he is demanding a trade what do you do. If he is moved I believe Ben Gordon is a very good player that is going to be great in time. I would not call him a corn puff. If he is happy here that is great I would still like to see us try to trade for Maglorie. Foster just does not cut it in my eye's as our Center. I would still love to go after Gordon he is by far much better than any of our guards.

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Al Harrington
    6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
    18.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Ben Gordon
    6-3 SG from Connecticut
    16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
    Mike Sweetney
    6-8 PF from Georgetown
    8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +6.4 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and +0.8 apg.

    Chicago Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Ben Gordon
    6-3 SG from Connecticut
    16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
    Mike Sweetney
    6-8 PF from Georgetown
    8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Al Harrington
    6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
    18.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -6.4 ppg, -1.1 rpg, and -0.8 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana and Chicago being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Chicago had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
    Jermaine didnt demand a trade

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    the last thing the pacers need is a malcontent like ben wallace
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    Chicago wouldn't trade Ben Gordon for Jesus. (the real one, Jerm)
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