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    Yeah, who's coming into the Dome most likely, to show us our exit this year?

    It's gonna be one of the wildcard teams, yep. Either Denver or Cincinnati.
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    I'm betting on Cincinnati, so let's hope they lose today.
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    I'm betting on Cincinnati, so let's hope they lose today.
    Yep I was thinking the same thing.

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    I just laugh when I hear Bob Lamey say that the "efense" has to look itself in the mirror hard after this game.

    Uhh, shouldn't they have done that weeks ago?

    If it was fixable, they'd have done it by now.

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    That's pretty much all that can be said.

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    Something has to be done about this defense in the offseason. Something major. Anything less is inexcusable. Maybe Ron Meeks should be shown the door.

    We definitely need to beef up the D line. There's no reason the likes of Travis Henry and Ron Dayne should look like Pro Bowlers.

    So, another early playoff exit for the Colts on the horizon.
    Ron Meeks should certainly go... but someone above him needs to go too. It's the system that is flawed. If Ron Meeks is made the sole scapegoat then we're not addressing the problem at its roots.

    Unless we're talking a new defensive coach that will be free to overhaul our whole defensive system and no longer be tied to Dungy's desire plus have Polian's ear about the new system and changes he wants. We can't continue to put an undersized defense on the field and work with the idea that we're going to be playing defense from the lead and teeing off with our speed .

    BTW... small and fast starts the season small and fast but after a season of the rough and tumble NFL they're nicked up and not nearly so fast... but they're still small.

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    We can't continue to put an undersized defense on the field and work with the idea that we're going to be playing defense from the lead and teeing off with our speed .

    BTW... small and fast starts the season small and fast but after a season of the rough and tumble NFL they're nicked up and not nearly so fast... but they're still small.

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    Exactly you can't continue to use the same personnel and ask them to be something they aren't. It goes deeper than missed tackles. The philosophy , approach , and scheme has to change.

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    So everyone thinks Polian has to go?

    Colts D did have some entertainment value though. I loved on the Carr draw at the end of the half where Freeney and Mathis are both in the middle of spin moves while Carr's running by them. They didn't get the memo that against the Colts, 3rd and 5 is short yardage.

    Speaking of which - and this may get me shot - but I'm not so sure you don't pull Mathis and Freeney out except for 3rd downs. They don't even make a show at run defending and are the most easily blocked players in history - just push them out wide and let them go past the play. In essence, any running play except 3rd and 1 is against a 2-man defensive line - they completely sell out. They're not your entire problem with run D but they're a big chunk of it.
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    Well, you gotta give credit to the Texans..they beat the Jags this year twice.

    And yes, the Colts defense sucks that freaking bad.

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    (Bill Polian)Hey lets draft another wide receiver in the first round. Sounds like a great idea. (/Bill Polian)
    That was pretty funny.

    I also agree with what DK is saying. Freeney's contract expires after this season, right? I'm starting to honestly wonder if we really need him. I don't know what Mathis' new contract looks like, but if it's reasonable, I'd keep him as our non-starting pass-rush specialist, let Freeney walk, and starting looking to figure out a way to field a physical, strong defense next year.
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    The reason these losses are so disheartening is they are in no way shape or form even arguably 'flukes' or 'just one of those games'. These are serious and obvious flaws being exposed that we as fans (and management) have to know will only be worse against better teams. And you see 'better' teams in the playoffs than the regular season.

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    gotta agree with the assesment on the small and quick philosophy. they are now dinged up like every other team but, they're still small and are getting shoved around with relative ease. dayne had a career day today. if the colts were to meet up with sd, i can't help but cringe at how easy tomlinson would make it look. but, perhaps he would run so many yards that he would cramp up like jones-drew did in the jacksonville game. that might be the only hope the defense has of stopping him. like the fighter who who tries to break the other guy's hand with his face.
    but, that would like require winning some playoff games to get there first. i was listening to the post-game radio broadcast and those guys are supposed to try and find a silver lining in the darkest of clouds but they were having a really hard time with it. after the jags game, i had seen enough to conclude that this wasn't just a fluke or one bad game. this defensive unit has some major problems that i don't believe the offense can cure. the offense cannot be expected to work perfectly every time and it pretty much has to if the colts are to win. if the dolphins scouts have been paying any attention to the colts, they would probably make a note to run it and run it some more and then, run it again.
    most teams if they are faced with 3rd and long, would likely favor the pass but, against this run defense, being at 3rd and 8 or even 3rd and 10- it really isn't a bad choice to go with the run. heck, when the texans decided to run it on 4th and 2- that was a pretty clear message as to what they thought of the ability of the defense.

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    I could serously see Tomlinson putting up 300 with 3-4 TDs on us. Our only hope would be to win the coin toss and just try to outgun them.

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    Colts D is middle of the pack in terms of yards allowed. I think the more serious issue is allowing so many on the ground. The main weakness of a high-powered offense is that if it goes up against a ball-control offense that chews up clock and scores efficiently, the high-powered offense gets to play tiddly winks while the inevitably mediocre defense spends a ton of time on the field. Conversely, the enemy of defense is time. The longer they spend on the field, the more tired they get, and the easier they are to score on. By allowing so many rushing yards per game, the Colts are ensuring their own failure, because they play right into what the other team wants to do.

    I think you give Dungy and Polian another pass this year, regardless of what happens. Dungy has proven that you can be a contender with a small but fast defense, and Gruden has proven with that same personell that you can win a Super Bowl playing that kind of defense. But that grace period ends if they don't draft or acquire a run-stuffing DL or LB this off-season.

    In terms of what the problem is, I think the problem is that the small, fast defense they used in Tampa worked so well because they focused on game-changers on defense, while their offense was mediocre. They also had a Lynch, Sapp, and a pretty good run-stuffing LB corps. That kept teams from running it up the gut, forcing them to run on the edges, which played into the hands of the otherwise speedy defense.

    There's nothing wrong with the system, but the personell still isn't there. I'm also not sure that a Dungy-Manning combination can win a Super Bowl.

    Anyone else think it's odd that Carlisle's philosophy would make him a hell of a football coach?

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