Do you always have to come out in favor of Stephen Jackson? I am trying to think of lineups that work. SJax and AI both need the ball in their hands to be effective. SJax would be the primary option off the bench. Tinsley is not a better player than AI and I'm starting AI in the backcourt so I need a bigger guy (to guard SGs) and a guy that can handle some backcourt responsibilities. Korver is starting because we need a shooter in the starting lineup. If you want Al to be the shooter, we need a banger, and that's what we'd be lacking if we traded JO and Danger away. Honestly it's not a cureall but this whole team needs some retooling if we don't want to be a perennial 500 team like we have been lately. (with the exception of Reggie's last two seasons)
I think everyone is missing the point, for the last how many years this team has dissapointed the fans by not making it past the second round, if we can trade for Iverson and Start winning not only will we get more exposure and attention we get progress and favourable results
Iverson is 31, if we till 2010 commit to a team of Iverson, Harrington, Jackson and Foster or Iverson, Harrington, O'neal I'd be more then happy, AI has been to the finals with less talent, why can't he take the Pacers there again....
he can flat out score, he has a slight attitude problem but losing does that to everone not named Brand...
I'd take the gamble as the last two-four years we have been mediocre at best and as much as I respect and love the Pacers losing sucks...
if we win 50-60 Games and go to the East Finals 3 times before 2010 with Iverson I will consider that a sucess
he should make this team better and I WANT TO WIN ! !!!!!!!!
he more then likly will clash with Coach C, but if he could work under Brown I can see it happing
Iverson has heart and can flat out score and I don't see a Problem if he plays next to Jermaine and if Jermaine don't like it... Adios Amigo next year...
Winning makes problems dissapear...
Ya Think Ya Used Enough Dynamite there Butch...
I've been reading through the thread. It seems to me that a trade won't happen because we don't have the kind of young talent, expiring contracts and picks to give up. I was just offering one suggestion of a trade that would work well for both sides in the short term. No team in their right mind would take both SJax and Tins in a trade. And those are the only two recognizable names that we have to trade. Nobody wants Saras, Harrison, Powell, Marshall, or Baston. We do have Williams who is supposed to be pretty good, Harrington, Daniels, Granger, JO, and Foster. Those are the six tradeable assets we have. We can use the other as filler but to get AI, I think we'd have to give up at least two of those (if JO is included) and three if he's not included. Obviously Philly would want Williams and Granger since they're young talent. You could also probably make a case that Powell and Marshall are in play here.
I think that it won't happen. If it did, it wouldn't surprise me if it was a package including Powell or Williams, Granger, Foster, and Harrington. Both of those work with the realgm trade checker but the only problem with that is that we have no frontcourt. It's JO and who else? JO/Baston/SJax/Daniels/AI seems awful pansy to me.
In all likelyhood, I think that Indy could be involved in trying to help facilitate a trade, most likely with Boston. I hope that LB and DW can bring us Delonte West in this deal.
I would do it as long as JO, Foster and either AL or DG stay!Maybe we could get rid of Jax, Tinsley (or Saras), Harrison and Draft Pick(s)? What do you think? Or am I dreaming?
Remember the Jim Gray - Allen Iverson thing from Friday night, well I think this settles it, Gray did talk with Iverson.
I wasn't going to vote on this but then I decided that since I do care, why not offer my perspective?
As a non-native who isn't really a fan of any local team, one of my main concerns is how Indy is perceived around the country. Rightly or wrongly, one of the major aspects of perception relates to local sports teams. In the case of Indy, the Colts are a huge positive because of Manning and the Pacers are a huge negative, first because of Artest and now because of Jackson.
I'm tired of going home and having people ask me about the thugs on the Pacers. Deserved or not, Iverson has that reputation.
To me, just more and more evidence of the serious decline of western civilization. We are LIVING the "Fall of the American Empire".