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    I know that the pacers have not been mentioned a lot in the places ai could go, but... the new york post had an article with the pacers as a possible destination.
    Trade away: Jax, Tinsley, and Harrison
    Get: Allen Iverson

    Do u think he has a chance to land here? What other trades could be possible?

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    Jax/Tinsley/Harrington for AI/Korver.

    Our lineup would be:

    AI/Saras/DA/Greene
    Korver/Daniels
    Granger/Marshall/Williams
    JO/Baston/Powell
    Foster/Harrison

    Now that looks pretty ok doesn't it?
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    That looks great, but I doubt they would give us Korver. But I would love to have him on our team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpolloloco View Post
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    Jax/Tinsley/Harrington for AI/Korver.

    Our lineup would be:

    AI/Saras/DA/Greene
    Korver/Daniels
    Granger/Marshall/Williams
    JO/Baston/Powell
    Foster/Harrison

    Now that looks pretty ok doesn't it?
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    To get AI AND Korver has been a dream of mine for some time. I would cry tears of joy. Wow.

    As far as AI is concerned, let's give them whatever they want, sans JO. Whatever it takes to make this work is perfectly fine with me. Keeping JO and adding AI equals champs. End of story.
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    This one works on Real GM

    Indiana

    Outgoing: Jackson & Tinsley to Phily
    Incoming: West & Szczerbiak from Boston

    Boston

    Outgoing: West & Szczerbiak to Indy, Ratliff to Phily
    Incoming: Iverson & Hunter from Phily

    Philadelphia

    Outgoing: Iverson & Hunter to Boston
    Incoming: Jackson & Tinsley from Indy, Ratliff from Boston

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    Most of my trades that involve philly try to pry Iguodala from them.

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    Jose, I think Philly doesn't get enough in that trade. Theo's expiring is actually very good for them, but I don't think that's enough, considering Jackson has almost negative trade value, and while Tinsley is improving his stock every day he stays healthy, I don't think Tinsley + Expiring = Iverson + Hunter. Maybe if someone kicked in a 1st or something.

    As for Igoudala, he's as close to untouchable as you can get on the 76ers. He's like our version of Granger, only moreso.

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    I think this is my first trade being posted since registering at PD, so please, no bashing

    I really dont know what Philly is looking for in return for Iverson, but I assumed they would at least want one or maybe 2 combo type guards.

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    6-4 SG from Maryland
    7.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes
    Rawle Marshall
    6-7 SF from Oakland-MI
    3.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.7 minutes
    Incoming
    Brian Scalabrine
    6-9 PF from USC
    2.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.2 minutes
    Gerald Green
    6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
    5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -2.3 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and -2.1 apg.

    Boston Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Wally Szczerbiak
    6-7 SF from Miami-OH
    19.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.0 minutes
    Brian Scalabrine
    6-9 PF from USC
    2.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.2 minutes
    Gerald Green
    6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
    5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes
    Delonte West
    6-4 PG from St. Joseph's
    11.8 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.6 apg in 34.1 minutes
    Incoming
    Rawle Marshall
    6-7 SF from Oakland-MI
    3.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.7 minutes
    Allen Iverson
    6-0 PG from Georgetown
    33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes
    Bobby Jones
    6-7 from Washington
    No games yet played in 2005/06
    Change in team outlook: -2.8 ppg, -6.7 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

    Philadelphia Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Allen Iverson
    6-0 PG from Georgetown
    33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes
    Bobby Jones
    6-7 from Washington
    No games yet played in 2005/06
    Incoming
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    6-4 SG from Maryland
    7.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes
    Wally Szczerbiak
    6-7 SF from Miami-OH
    19.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.0 minutes
    Delonte West
    6-4 PG from St. Joseph's
    11.8 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.6 apg in 34.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +5.1 ppg, +7.2 rpg, and +3.2 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana, Boston, and Philadelphia being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Boston, and Philadelphia had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    It's a pretty big trade, but it gives us the flexibility to now build on the future if in fact thats the direction we are wanting to go. It doesn't rid us of Jack or Tins (who I might be willing to keep around now), but that can be done later.

    Our lineup:

    Tins/DA/Greene
    Quis/Gerald
    Al/Granger/Rawle/Shawne
    JO/Powell/Baston
    Foster/Harrison/Scalabrine

    I didn't include Jack because I'm hoping we can deal him with this years second rounder to get us a late pick in the first round. This trade gives us a solid group of young guys (Gerald, Granger, Shawne) that could be the core of the franchise if we choose to seperate from JO, Tins, Al, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeartlandFan View Post
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    I think this is my first trade being posted since registering at PD, so please, no bashing

    I really dont know what Philly is looking for in return for Iverson, but I assumed they would at least want one or maybe 2 combo type guards.

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    6-4 SG from Maryland
    7.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes
    Rawle Marshall
    6-7 SF from Oakland-MI
    3.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.7 minutes
    Incoming
    Brian Scalabrine
    6-9 PF from USC
    2.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.2 minutes
    Gerald Green
    6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
    5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -2.3 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and -2.1 apg.

    Boston Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Wally Szczerbiak
    6-7 SF from Miami-OH
    19.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.0 minutes
    Brian Scalabrine
    6-9 PF from USC
    2.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.2 minutes
    Gerald Green
    6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
    5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes
    Delonte West
    6-4 PG from St. Joseph's
    11.8 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.6 apg in 34.1 minutes
    Incoming
    Rawle Marshall
    6-7 SF from Oakland-MI
    3.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.7 minutes
    Allen Iverson
    6-0 PG from Georgetown
    33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes
    Bobby Jones
    6-7 from Washington
    No games yet played in 2005/06
    Change in team outlook: -2.8 ppg, -6.7 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

    Philadelphia Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Allen Iverson
    6-0 PG from Georgetown
    33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes
    Bobby Jones
    6-7 from Washington
    No games yet played in 2005/06
    Incoming
    Sarunas Jasikevicius
    6-4 SG from Maryland
    7.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes
    Wally Szczerbiak
    6-7 SF from Miami-OH
    19.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.0 minutes
    Delonte West
    6-4 PG from St. Joseph's
    11.8 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.6 apg in 34.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +5.1 ppg, +7.2 rpg, and +3.2 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana, Boston, and Philadelphia being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Boston, and Philadelphia had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    It's a pretty big trade, but it gives us the flexibility to now build on the future if in fact thats the direction we are wanting to go. It doesn't rid us of Jack or Tins (who I might be willing to keep around now), but that can be done later.

    Our lineup:

    Tins/DA/Greene
    Quis/Gerald
    Al/Granger/Rawle/Shawne
    JO/Powell/Baston
    Foster/Harrison/Scalabrine
    first of all, Rawle doesn't fit there any more, i think you meant to type SJax, no? secondly, i don't see the point of this trade from the pacer's point of view, how does it help us? we need shooters... to me this is just a move for the sake of making a trade - nothing more. also, i've heard ainge won't make a deal including gerald green and having telfair and iverson on the same team? im not sure how that would work out.

    i think the pacers would need to get a shooter out of the deal for them to pull something. i'd think we'd need to get either korver or szczerbiak to make a deal. which i think could work...
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    Gerald would actually be our best shooter if we were to trade for him. Here are a couple quotes I got from Rivals:

    "My strength is shooting and I can jump real high. I'm working on my handles and my dribbling so I can take it to the basket a little more." — Gulf Shores forward Gerald Green

    "He has three gifts that can't be taught. He's 6-8, his athleticism is off the charts, and he is an outstanding shooter." — Rivals.com analyst Jerry Meyer

    Scouting Report from Rivals:

    "Green, at 6-foot-8, has good size and a nice, deep outside jumper. He is a shooting guard cut out of the same mold as a Tracy McGrady or Kobe Bryant. He needs to get bigger and stronger but he can shoot over a defense or put the ball on the floor and get to the basket. His mid-range jumper is there but he rarely needs to use it at the high school level." — 8/19/2004

    Scouting Report from NBADraft.net:

    Everything this kid does is silky smooth, even hard drives to the lane capped with the empahatic dunk seem easy... Has supreme athleticism, and gets many points off ally oop dunks as well as on drives to the hole... Has a very quick, effortless release on his jump shot. Combine that with great elevation and you have an almost unblockable shot... Most of the shots go in, in fact his jump shot from midrange to outside is one of his defining qualities... Loves to spot up for the open three, or stop and pop for the 15 footer... Overall just a sick scorer from outside

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    Plus he is shooting 53% from three this year. But like you said, it would be very unlikely that Boston would give him up. It all depends on how much they want AI though.

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    Korver is not going anywhere, and Jack would be hard to dump off on the 76ers. Reports did have Tinsley involved, but then it added that the Pacers would also need to involve Foster (which I wouldn't want to do) and either Granger or Daniels, I would prefer Daniels

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    What if we just traded our starting rotation (Minus Al) in the following trade:


    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    David Harrison
    7-0 C from Colorado
    5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.4 minutes

    Shawne Williams
    6-9 from Memphis
    No games yet played in 2005/06

    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes

    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-1 PG from Iowa State
    9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes

    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes

    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes


    Incoming

    Nick Collison
    6-9 PF from Kansas
    7.5 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.9 minutes

    Danny Fortson
    6-8 PF from Cincinnati
    3.8 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.1 apg in 12.0 minutes

    Rashard Lewis
    6-10 SF from Alief Elsik (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 36.9 minutes

    Andre Iguodala
    6-6 SG from Arizona
    12.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes

    Allen Iverson
    6-0 PG from Georgetown
    33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +19.2 ppg, -6.2 rpg, and +2.6 apg.



    Seattle Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Nick Collison
    6-9 PF from Kansas
    7.5 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.9 minutes

    Danny Fortson
    6-8 PF from Cincinnati
    3.8 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.1 apg in 12.0 minutes

    Rashard Lewis
    6-10 SF from Alief Elsik (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 36.9 minutes


    Incoming

    David Harrison
    7-0 C from Colorado
    5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.4 minutes

    Shawne Williams
    6-9 from Memphis
    No games yet played in 2005/06

    Chris Webber
    6-10 PF from Michigan
    20.2 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 3.4 apg in 38.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -5.4 ppg, -0.3 rpg, and +0.1 apg.

    Philadelphia Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Andre Iguodala
    6-6 SG from Arizona
    12.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes

    Allen Iverson
    6-0 PG from Georgetown
    33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes

    Chris Webber
    6-10 PF from Michigan
    20.2 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 3.4 apg in 38.6 minutes
    Incoming

    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes

    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-1 PG from Iowa State
    9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes

    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes

    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -13.8 ppg, +6.5 rpg, and -2.7 apg.




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