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    Future is now
    A look at five players who are giving the Pacers a new outlook.



    Player Bios
    Marquis Daniels
    Age: 25.
    Years pro: 3.
    Position: Shooting guard.
    Jersey number: 6.
    Vitals: 6'6", 200 lbs.
    Hometown: Orlando, Fla.
    College: Auburn University.

    Danny Granger
    Age: 23.
    Years pro: 1.
    Position: Forward.
    Jersey number: 33.
    Vitals: 6'9", 228 lb.
    Hometown: New Orleans.
    College: University of New Mexico.

    David Harrison
    Age: 24.
    Years pro: 2.
    Position: Center.
    Jersey number: 13.
    Vitals: 7'0", 280 lbs.
    Hometown: Nashville.
    College: University of Colorado.

    Shawne Williams
    Age: 20.
    Years pro: Rookie.
    Position: Forward.
    Jersey number: 4.
    Height, weight: 6'9", 225 lbs.
    Hometown: Memphis, Tenn.
    College: University of Memphis.

    James White
    Age: 23.
    Years pro: Rookie.
    Position: Guard/forward.
    Jersey number: 0.
    Vitals: 6'7", 200 lbs.
    Hometown: Washington D.C.
    College: University of Cincinnati.



    By Matt Gonzales
    matt.gonzales@intakeweekly.com
    When Reggie Miller retired from the Indiana Pacers in 2005, he took more than his sweet shooting touch with him. The man stood guilty of identity theft.

    Now, a full year after Miller's departure, the team remains in the midst of an identity crisis. But the squad's top brass resolved to "restore" the team -- in a few ways.

    The team's old grind-it-out style of play is being replaced by an up-tempo, run-and-gun game. The Pacers also traded away the reliable, but aging, veterans Austin Croshere and Anthony Johnson to show that they mean business.

    While everyone is familiar with Jermaine O'Neal, Stephen Jackson, Jamaal Tinsley and Jeff Foster, this year's Pacers are relying heavily on a corps of young, athletic ballers to help resuscitate the team, both on and off the court.

    INtake's Matt Gonzales recently headed to Conseco Fieldhouse to get a closer look.


    Shake it up: Pacers forward Danny Granger washes his English bulldog, Bentley. -- Michelle Pemberton / INtake


    Danger Granger

    To many fans, Danny Granger is a beacon of light in an otherwise cloudy Pacer future. A gifted athlete, Granger approaches the game like a predator. Loose balls, errant shots and rim-bound opponents are his prey.

    While Granger is a silent assassin on the court, he's the court jester off of it.

    An example: While posing for the photograph on the cover of this issue, the INtake art director and photographer asked the players to wear their best not-to-be-messed-with faces. But Granger kept cracking everybody up. At one point, for no discernable reason, he started chanting "Chicken noodle soup, chicken noodle soup!" and improvised a little dance that could only be described as silly -- and that's putting it mildly.

    Business, never personal

    Later, when asked about the "chicken noodle soup," dance, he laughed.

    "That's a dance from New York. JT (Jamaal Tinsley) is from New York, he brought that dance back with him," he said. "Stephen Jackson, too."

    But make no mistake: Granger restricts his chicken noodle soup moments to before and after game time.

    "During the game, I'm all business," he said. "I try not to get too high or low, or let my emotions get in the way of my game."

    This is sweet music to the ears of fans who have grown tired of the on-court histrionics of other Pacers players. But Granger is also quick to defend his teammates who have trouble keeping a lid on their emotions.

    "As far as the attitudes, sometimes people get emotional," he said. "I think that's what people don't realize: We all want to win, and sometimes in the heat of the moment, people just get emotional."

    School of hard knocks

    When explaining away the bad behavior of other Pacers players, apologists often point to their rough upbringings: Stephen Jackson came up in a rough-and-tumble neighborhood in Port Arthur, Texas; Jamaal Tinsley was raised in the mean streets of Bedford-Stuyvesant in Brooklyn.

    But Granger is no product of suburban bliss himself.

    His hometown of Metarie, La., lies adjacent to New Orleans, where trouble is easy to find. Granger managed to elude it. The same can't be said for everyone in his family.

    "I've had family members killed," he said. "I have a cousin who is in jail. I could have easily ended up down a different path."

    But his father, Danny Granger Sr., kept a close eye on him.

    "I was scared of him," he said. "But it turned out for the best. He kept me in line."

    Granger Sr. now splits his time between Louisiana and Indianapolis, often staying in Indy during the basketball season. As for the younger Granger, he lives in Carmel with his girlfriend, who he has dated since his college days in New Mexico, and his bulldog, Bentley.

    Home movies

    Granger admitted that "there's not a lot to do" in Indianapolis, but added "it's probably for the best."

    When he does go out, it usually involves food.

    "I love to eat," he said with an emphasis people usually reserve for money or sex. "I'm a big fan of Sullivan's Steakhouse, and there's a soul food restaurant over on College, Country Kitchen, that I love."

    At home, Granger passes the time watching movies in his newly installed home theater.

    "I like movies that make you think," he said. "I like action movies; I like them all, but my favorite movie has to be 'Gladiator.' "

    A fitting favorite, indeed.


    Defining David Harrison

    The Louis Vuitton bag in David Harrison's hands isn't his.

    "It's Granger's," he says with a laugh. "We stole it from him weeks ago. We keep bringing in stuff from it and leaving it in the locker room. He still hasn't figured it out."

    Among the bag's contents are several DVDs, including "The Karate Kid," and Granger's passport.

    Talking to Harrison in person, you'd never guess he was the type of player to bark at refs and rack up technicals. He's funny, easygoing, affable. We're talking about a guy who calls Bob Dylan's "Highway 61 Revisited" his all-time favorite album.

    But in his two seasons with the Pacers, his time on the court has been limited by his inability to keep quiet.

    "This year, I just want to stay on the court," he said. "I'm foul-prone, I get technicals, I do a lot of things that take away from my basketball."

    Toning down the talk

    "It's just the way I play sports," he said. "I just have to learn how to turn off that part of me when the whistle blows. It's not easy. I didn't grow up playing basketball. I grew up playing football and lacrosse -- violent sports. I loved lacrosse. You get a stick."

    As a 6'9" high school freshman, Harrison went out for the wrestling team. According to him, it was through no choice of his own that he ended up playing basketball.

    "They tricked me into it," he said, referring to the basketball team's coaches. "I was wrestling, and the basketball coach came and said, 'We have a big guy this week, could you come up to help us out?' I came, and one of the backups got hurt, and I played and scored 19 points on the JV team."

    Slim, trim and ready

    Harrison has struggled to keep his weight down in the past couple of years -- a problem he attributes to an injury he suffered in college that left him immobile for awhile. But he spent the past summer training with his former coach at Colorado and arrived at camp a full 30 pounds lighter than last season. That's quite an achievement, especially for a player whose work ethic has been questioned throughout his college and pro career.

    "That's one thing that I've worked on since I've been here," he said. "I don't think I've ever been a bad person, but I've definitely been a risk in most people's eyes. My nightlife -- nobody knew what I was really doing, but everybody knew I was out. So I've tried to grow up a little bit, to be a little more mature."

    And doing so in Indianapolis is easier than it was in Colorado.

    "Honestly, coming here, I was like, 'Man, there's nothing to do.' But then I realized that in Colorado there was stuff to do every night. There's stuff to do here, it's just not every night. Which has actually helped me a lot professionally."

    Man about town

    Harrison, who lives in Carmel, still likes to hit nightspots from time to time, even if he has to drive a bit to get there.

    "I wish there was more stuff up on the Northside," he said. "I liked Vizion and Vapour when they were open."

    These days, Broad Ripple and Downtown are his two main nightlife stomping grounds.

    "I go wherever people are," he said. "I love Six, Jermaine's club Seven, and there's something to do every night at Landsharks. My rookie year, I was at Peppers a lot. Me and the Vogue didn't get along too well. The bouncers didn't like me. Most of them have that little power kick. You really can't do anything if they tell you to leave besides get into more trouble. You kind of have to bite your tongue."

    Tongue-biting, as Pacers fans know, isn't one of Harrison's strong points. But if he can learn to manage his temper the way he has managed his weight, Harrison may yet grow into an elite NBA center.


    What matters to Marquis

    He was no superstar, but former Pacer Austin Croshere was a favorite among fans. And in Reggie's absence, he emerged as the team's voice of reason in the locker room.

    Now that the Pacers have traded Croshere away for the younger, more athletic Marquis Daniels, the question isn't whether Daniels can fill Croshere's basketball shoes, but if he can fill the spiritual void Croshere left behind.

    The answer to that question may lie right beneath Daniels' nose. Or more specifically, beneath his left arm.

    There, along the side of his torso, is a tattoo of Psalm 91 in its entirety. It looks almost as if someone ripped a page out of the Bible and made a carbon copy of the psalm along Daniels' rib cage.

    Body language

    Psalm 91 is around 300 words long, and opens with these lines:

    "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most

    High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

    I will say of the Lord,

    He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust."

    Daniels is quiet, almost shy, off the court. But his body speaks volumes. Among his many tattoos are a giant replica of his home state of Florida on his back, a man committing suicide with a shotgun with the words "Only the strong survive" on the inside of his forearm and a pair of menacing eyes peering from behind a crucifix with the caption "Look through the Eyes of a Killer" on his upper back.

    But when asked which tattoo means the most to him, Daniels doesn't hesitate.

    "Psalms 91," he resolutely responds.

    Family values

    With the Dallas Mavericks, Daniels saw his playing time gradually diminish under coach Avery Johnson. In the nine games leading up to the final game of the Mavs' season, he had scored only 9 points. But he turned heads during game six of the NBA finals when he scored 12 points, going 4-for-6 from the field.

    Ironically, it was a game Daniels almost didn't show up for.

    "My daughter was born just a couple of hours before the game," Daniels said. "I wasn't going to go, but my fiancée told me to. She pretty much forced me to go."

    Dallas lost the game and the series, but Daniels won some admirers with his strong showing.

    "Some people say I'm a smooth player, that I have silky style, that I make the game look easy," he said.

    But his main priority, he said, is making the game easy for his teammates.

    "I just try to create opportunities for the other guys on the floor," he said. "Not just looking to score, but helping everybody else score, too."

    No 'I' in 'team'

    Since he has arrived in Indianapolis, a number of fans have approached Daniels on the street. He appreciates the attention, but admits that it can be tough at times.

    "Shana (his fiancée) gets frustrated by it," he said. "Just having people come up to you wherever you go, the movies or wherever. And you have to keep that smiling face, even when you're not in a good mood. It's not always easy."

    Ups and downs of stardom aside, Daniels knows just how lucky he is to have the opportunity to establish himself as a cornerstone of a franchise of the Pacers' caliber.

    "I really don't care about stats," he said. "I know that's the company line, and yeah, stats are nice and all, but at the end of the day, I want to see this team win. This team has a tradition of being a playoff team every year, of competing for a championship. I want to help that happen this year."


    James White, No. 0, and Shawne Williams, No. 4,

    The new kids on the block

    Sitting courtside in metal folding chairs after a draining practice, Shawne Williams and James White are a study in contrast. White speaks like anyone else from the Midwest, while Williams has a deep Tennessean drawl. White is reserved and doles out personal details sparingly; Williams is open and gregarious. White's disposition is business-like; Williams exudes an almost child-like enthusiasm.

    Young and younger

    The differences are not just a matter of personality. Williams, who entered the NBA draft after one year of college, is only 20 years old. White is 24. As the only rookies on the team, it seems they'd feel the pressure to outdo one another, too. But both players adamantly say otherwise.

    "We're not competing against one another. As rookies, we're really all we got," Williams said. "We've got to stick together and help each other out."

    Although the Pacers drafted Williams in the first round, many expect White to see more playing time this year, thanks to his older age and college experience.

    "We've got to do anything we can to get on the floor," Williams said. "We've got to be ready to play garbage time, and just take everything we can get."

    Dunking demon

    Fans are particularly excited to see White let loose on the court. The Washington, D.C. native recently told The Indianapolis Star in no uncertain terms that he "WILL win" this coming season's NBA Slam Dunk Contest if he's invited. Having won approximately 20 dunk contests since he first dunked in middle school, he figures it's the last mountain he has to conquer.

    But for all of his high-flying ways, White stays low to the ground off the court.

    "These days, after practice, I pretty much go home and go to sleep."

    When not sleeping, he spends his time playing Tunk, a rummy-like card game, with his roommate.

    "It's intense," he said. "Last night, we played like 100 hands, and my roommate beat me. I can't wait to get home tonight to play again."

    New kid in town

    As for Williams, he's still feeling his way around Indianapolis. He's not old enough to enter the clubs that some of his teammates frequent. But he has seen enough of the city to know that it's not that different from his hometown.

    "It's a small big city, like Memphis," he said. "It's the best of both worlds."

    The one difference he's noticed between the two cities is the passion Indy residents have for basketball.

    "A lot of people on the street seem to know more about the game than a lot of columnists and journalists," he said. "I just want to help get the team back to where fans can appreciate the game. I want to make it fun to watch for the fans. I want to win."

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    By Matt Gonzales
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    Created by fans for fans, Pacers Digest is a vibrant online community of all ages, ethnicities and nationalities. Unlike many online forums, the moderators and administrators of Pacers Digest maintain a civil community without ruling with an iron fist. And in addition to being a place to discuss all things Pacers, the Web site is a fountain of information about the team.

    Sports history geeks, for example, will appreciate the history page, which includes the name of every player who's ever been on the team. Visitors can also go to the other forums on the site to discuss everything from Colts football to politics. Pacers Digest even has an arcade where you can try to dethrone the reigning high-score holders of Tetris, Pac-Man, Space Invaders and more.

    But most people go to participate in Pacers-related conversation in a friendly cyber-atmosphere.

    Mark Andrew Stamper, a 22-year-old New Castle, Ind., resident who started Pacers Digest in August 2003, recently took the time to answer questions about the site through a private message exchange on Pacers Digest.

    Can you pinpoint the time in your life when you went from being just a casual fan of the team to being a die-hard follower?

    Easily. When I was still in elementary school in the mid-'90s, I got a tape on Larry Bird, and was blown away that a guy that looked like me and grew up in the same state that I did could do such amazing things against other NBA greats. So when Bird signed on to be the Pacers' head coach, that got my attention right away. But it wasn't until the Pacers reached the 1998 Eastern Conference Finals that I became completely hooked.

    One of the most appealing things about Pacers Digest is the civility and intelligent discussion there. How did you manage to create such a great environment at PD?

    It's a combination of things. First, I based my own administration policies off of a different forum I posted on back then that I respected and had a large, thriving community. It was a rough start to be sure, but I got a lot of good advice from a poster called "kerosene," who quickly became my first co-administrator. Eventually I added a couple more administrators, and between us we manage to keep a pretty good eye on things. But even with a good staff, the forum couldn't be what it is without the terrific regulars that post here. Without them, the civil discussions, the intelligent debates, and the fun humor wouldn't exist.

    Why do you think it's important to fans to have a discussion forum like Pacers Digest?

    I think for many of them, before discovering Pacers Digest they felt like they didn't have a lot of people to relate to or talk to about the Pacers. So when you do discover Pacers Digest, you realize there are many, many people who love the Pacers as much or even more than you do, and they all want to talk about everything involving the Pacers. On game nights it's fun to come here and comment on the game as it happens on TV. You see a lot of cheering, celebrating, anger and sometimes a lot of cursing. The other thing that I find really incredible about this place is how fast you get the latest Pacer and NBA news. We have a lot of people that are constantly on the lookout for news from radio, TV and Internet sites, and the online editions of newspapers around the country/world, and they do a great job of posting links to articles that pertain to the team, so if something happens, come to Pacers Digest and you'll hear about it quick.

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    There was actually a thread covering this already (though the title is misleading), and I included my full interview with INtake there:

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=25494

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    i picked up 3 copys of INtalk
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    By Matt Gonzales
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    Created by fans for fans, Pacers Digest is a vibrant online community of all ages, ethnicities and nationalities. Unlike many online forums, the moderators and administrators of Pacers Digest maintain a civil community without ruling with an iron fist. And in addition to being a place to discuss all things Pacers, the Web site is a fountain of information about the team.

    Sports history geeks, for example, will appreciate the history page, which includes the name of every player who's ever been on the team. Visitors can also go to the other forums on the site to discuss everything from Colts football to politics. Pacers Digest even has an arcade where you can try to dethrone the reigning high-score holders of Tetris, Pac-Man, Space Invaders and more.

    But most people go to participate in Pacers-related conversation in a friendly cyber-atmosphere.

    Mark Andrew Stamper, a 22-year-old New Castle, Ind., resident who started Pacers Digest in August 2003, recently took the time to answer questions about the site through a private message exchange on Pacers Digest.

    Can you pinpoint the time in your life when you went from being just a casual fan of the team to being a die-hard follower?

    Easily. When I was still in elementary school in the mid-'90s, I got a tape on Larry Bird, and was blown away that a guy that looked like me and grew up in the same state that I did could do such amazing things against other NBA greats. So when Bird signed on to be the Pacers' head coach, that got my attention right away. But it wasn't until the Pacers reached the 1998 Eastern Conference Finals that I became completely hooked.

    One of the most appealing things about Pacers Digest is the civility and intelligent discussion there. How did you manage to create such a great environment at PD?

    It's a combination of things. First, I based my own administration policies off of a different forum I posted on back then that I respected and had a large, thriving community. It was a rough start to be sure, but I got a lot of good advice from a poster called "kerosene," who quickly became my first co-administrator. Eventually I added a couple more administrators, and between us we manage to keep a pretty good eye on things. But even with a good staff, the forum couldn't be what it is without the terrific regulars that post here. Without them, the civil discussions, the intelligent debates, and the fun humor wouldn't exist.

    Why do you think it's important to fans to have a discussion forum like Pacers Digest?

    I think for many of them, before discovering Pacers Digest they felt like they didn't have a lot of people to relate to or talk to about the Pacers. So when you do discover Pacers Digest, you realize there are many, many people who love the Pacers as much or even more than you do, and they all want to talk about everything involving the Pacers. On game nights it's fun to come here and comment on the game as it happens on TV. You see a lot of cheering, celebrating, anger and sometimes a lot of cursing. The other thing that I find really incredible about this place is how fast you get the latest Pacer and NBA news. We have a lot of people that are constantly on the lookout for news from radio, TV and Internet sites, and the online editions of newspapers around the country/world, and they do a great job of posting links to articles that pertain to the team, so if something happens, come to Pacers Digest and you'll hear about it quick.


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    i picked up 3 copys of INtalk
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    Where can you get the copy of Intake? I am heading to Indy this weekend and would like a copy. Thanks!

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    Pick up INtake for free at most supermarkets, at any of the red INtake dispensers that are scattered around town (if you watch the sidewalks as you drive anywhere near downtown, you're bound to spot one), or at lots of other locations like gas stations, bars, etc.

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    I would like a copy of this issue. Can someone get a copy for me that I can pick up at the forum party? Or maybe flakcatcher could mail me one? I really appreciate it.

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    I would like a copy of this issue. Can someone get a copy for me that I can pick up at the forum party? Or maybe flakcatcher could mail me one? I really appreciate it.
    hmmm mail, now there is a concept I can support, one copy would do just fine if the envelope is solid
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    How long are these on newsstands? I'd like one as well.
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    I think I'm falling in love with Danny Granger. Is this bad?

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    hmmm mail, now there is a concept I can support, one copy would do just fine if the envelope is solid
    flakcatcher, could you contact Abel via PM to send him a copy over in the UK?

    He was kind enough to send one to me (which I would imagine I'll get in the next week), so I'm hoping he can get one sent across the pond as well.

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    The place I work at carries these. I grabbed a copy today, and will probably grab a couple more when I work on Sunday if there's any left.

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    Yeah, Shade, please snag as many as you can; you never know when they may be needed/requested later.

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    Flak, If possible, would be greatly appreciated

    if you can do, pm me and I'll give you the address, if not, perhaps someone here can take up the option? I'll gladly paypal you the posting costs
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    The Pacers also traded away the reliable, but aging, veterans Austin Croshere and Anthony Johnson to show that they mean business.
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    Veteran Austin Croshere, the longest-tenured Pacers player on the roster, has proven reliable when called upon, invariably ready to step in regardless of the circumstance.

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