View Poll Results: The NEW roster player who surprised me the most in pre-season is:

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  • Maceo Baston

    2 4.00%
  • Marquis Daniels

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  • Al Harrington

    2 4.00%
  • Rawle Marshall

    14 28.00%
  • Josh Powell

    25 50.00%
  • James White

    0 0%
  • Shawne Williams

    6 12.00%
  • Other (please specify)

    1 2.00%
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Thread: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    lol we are a horrible team if we gave up 40 points in one quarter
    *removed* Just keep politics and religion completely out of it, please.

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

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    I'd say that thru 3 quarters we have 5 bench points is the problem.
    I was just about to say that

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

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    Looking at the box score, the play of Al Harrington seems to be the bright spot. Listening to the game it seems he has been drawing many offensive fouls. So its not all bad in pacerland. Definitely worth giving up a first round pick...
    Our best player was a Hawk last year. Wooo Hooo!

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    wow... this is an ugly game, I just turned it on, they are really stinking it up.

    oh well, it is preseason... right?... someone tell me that it doesn't matter yet..

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    I would love to see Queez put some shots up. We brought him here to be that 6th man and we are going to need some points from him. He needs to be putting up more then 1 shot.

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    one more preseason game to straighten this out...

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

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    one more preseason game to straighten this out...
    Nope. This is it.


    BTW, stupid PD stopped loading just as I was putting up the first half +/- for the Pacers, with (minutes played). Again, first half only.

    -16 Daniels (9)
    -15 JO (16.5)
    -14 Al (13)
    -13 Foster (15)
    -12 SarJas (6.5)

    -9 Harrison (3)
    -8 Marshall (3)
    -8 Jackson (16.5)
    -7 Tinsley (14.5)
    -6 Armstrong (4.5)

    -3 White (3)
    -2 Granger (14)
    +3 Baston (1.5)

    Harrison, SarJas and Daniels, awful per minute

    Granger pretty strong, Jackson and Tinsley okay all things considered.

    I'm going to update with the 2nd half in a bit. BTW, I'm using the PxP so if its wrong there will be mistakes. Also I always include the FT's outstanding when a player leaves as part of his +/-, which means if it's -10 when Foster leaves but Brewer has 2 to shoot and hits 1, then Foster goes out at -11 instead.

    By my understanding that's not how it's normally done. Normally it goes strictly by the score on the board when the player leaves, but that player was part of what created the FT situation which is why I do it my way.

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    [quote=Naptown_Seth;492590]Nope. This is it.

    your right, Wednesday id the reg season... as scary as the team is looking, opening night should have been on Tuesday

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    So Granger has played 16 minutes and in a blowout he's only at -2?

    I'm just going to zip my lip for fear of jinxing this team even further.

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    Wait. Sarunas had 8 TOs? Wow. How'd he do that? Heck, I'm not even mad; that's amazing.

    Btw, JT had 10 and 7. He's been solid and I expect him to pick it up further once the regular season begins. He'll probably rein in his TOs as well.

    Also, Rawle Marshall seems to fit in well in limited time situations as well as big minutes...like Rick was talking about.

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    Baston got the least time except for Edwards. Maybe they were showcasing Marshall, but I wonder if they aren't really strongly considering keeping him. He was an effective scorer (again) in the 4th quarter and his +/- as I have it was better than Daniels and SarJas in similar PT.

    Final +/- by using the PxP and Excel

    +3 Baston (1.5)
    -4 Granger (24.5)
    -6 White (9)
    -6 Powell (7)
    -6 Williams (7)

    -6 Armstrong (4.5)
    -8 Harrison (13)
    -9 Tinsley (25)
    -10 Jackson (27)
    -10 Marshall (16.5)

    -12 Foster (20.5)
    -13 Harrington (24)
    -14 JO (28)
    -14 SarJas (20)
    -15 Daniels (16.5)

    Everyone but Edwards played (and Greene who wasn't in uniform).

    2nd half didn't change much. Starters were competitive in the 3rd, the bench was only a little poor in the 4th compared to awful during the first half.

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    BTW, the Pacers only got 55 FGAs thanks to all the TOs.

    Even worse is that they didn't create many TO's either. They lost the points off of TOs battle 38-11, which is basically the game right there. Worse yet is that while the Pacers gave up 38 on 30, they only got 11 on 15. That's less than 1 pt per TO which for a team hoping to be more uptempo is not very effective.

    They didn't just fail to get the big number of TOs, they also were unable to score off them when they did.

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

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    Baston got the least time except for Edwards. Maybe they were showcasing Marshall, but I wonder if they aren't really strongly considering keeping him. He was an effective scorer (again) in the 4th quarter and his +/- as I have it was better than Daniels and SarJas in similar PT.

    Final +/- by using the PxP and Excel

    +3 Baston (1.5)
    -4 Granger (24.5)
    -6 White (9)
    -6 Powell (7)
    -6 Williams (7)

    -6 Armstrong (4.5)
    -8 Harrison (13)
    -9 Tinsley (25)
    -10 Jackson (27)
    -10 Marshall (16.5)

    -12 Foster (20.5)
    -13 Harrington (24)
    -14 JO (28)
    -14 SarJas (20)
    -15 Daniels (16.5)

    Everyone but Edwards played (and Greene who wasn't in uniform).

    2nd half didn't change much. Starters were competitive in the 3rd, the bench was only a little poor in the 4th compared to awful during the first half.
    Wow further proof +/- is a useless stat, no offesne.

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    Wow, 0 assists, 8 turnovers. That's...that's special.

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    Wait. Saras actually had 0 assists and 8 turnovers?

    Are you kidding me? I can't even find the words to describe that type of performance.


    Also, as dictated from the preseason, this team is only going as far as Al, Jack, and Tins are going to take it. JO hasn't been too impressive and the bench has been flat-out useless.

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    one way to look at it is that we went 3-5 during the year we were 61-21... not saying that its anything significant but its something to hope for i suppose

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    Did this pre-season show us anything we didn't already know? Jack, Tins, and JO have been solid (it's not just about the numbers). Danny and Al have been impressive. Daniels needs some time but coming off of an injury, that's ok. The biggest surprise to me is how ineffective Saras has been. I've always thought that he is a guy who could do better if given more time. I'm fairly psyched. Not too worry. We'll start off slow but by the all-star break we'll be in the mix of things, I'm sure. Keep in mind we have a difficult schedule to begin the season...

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

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    Did this pre-season show us anything we didn't already know? Jack, Tins, and JO have been solid (it's not just about the numbers). Danny and Al have been impressive. Daniels needs some time but coming off of an injury, that's ok. The biggest surprise to me is how ineffective Saras has been. I've always thought that he is a guy who could do better if given more time. I'm fairly psyched. Not too worry. We'll start off slow but by the all-star break we'll be in the mix of things, I'm sure. Keep in mind we have a difficult schedule to begin the season...
    I smell a... 61-21 record!!!!

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    What was the level of protection on that Lottery pick next season?
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

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    What was the level of protection on that Lottery pick next season?
    I think it's lottery protected...but I wouldn't worry about it...regardless, hasn't Al impressed you at all?

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    Oh my.

    I watched the first quarter and thought we would actually try and make a run, but looking at the score and the boxscore tells me that I thought wrong. We got outscored in every quarter except for the third quarter (we outscored them 31-30 in the 3rd). Should I go watch the full game?

    Also, I know I shouldn't be taking these games too seriously, but Runi is really starting to worry me.

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    Oh my.

    I watched the first quarter wrong.
    Were you in Salt Lake? Or it was on some kind of TV?

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    Default Re: 10/26/2006 Pre-Season Game Thread 8: Pacers vs Jazz

    My bad. I'm used to saying 'watch'. I listened to it.

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