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    Looks like we're going to do the draft here on PD.

    Not all the votes are in but the last time I checked it was 8-0 in favor of having the draft here with a 24 hour draft clock.

    This will be the first time I have been a part of this type of draft so I'm a little out of my element. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd love to hear 'em.

    I posted an NBA player list in another thread. I assume its complete since I copied it from NBA.com. I'll update the list prior to the draft starting.

    As far as the selection order goes I'd like to set it up similar to what we've done on Sports.ws in the past.

    The odd numbered rounds are random & the even numbered rounds that follow them are in reverse order.

    An example of that would be...... if you have the 1st pick in the draft, then you pick last in the 2nd round. If you have the last pick of the 1st round, you also have the 1st pick in the 2nd.

    Round 1 is random, round 2 is the reverse of round 1

    Round 3 is random, round 4 is the reverse of round 3

    etc etc

    As far as the draft clock goes........... You'll have 24 hours from the time the person ahead of you post his selection to make your choice.

    Nobody will come close to taking that long to make a pick, so don't panic.

    As for the scoring in the league, we'll be using the scoring that we've always used on Sports.ws, However its my understanding that the NBA.com site only counts the points the "starters" score.

    So, how many "starters" should we have?

    Currently I have it set at 3 guards, 3 forwards & 2 centers.

    I've thought about changing it to 4, 4 & 2. Anyone have any thoughts one way or the other on this?

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    I don't know, but a 4 4 and 2 situation sure sounds like we would need to choose our top 10 very wisely. Seeing that this is a 24 team league, and the benches will be quite thin already compared to other fantasy formats, I'd leave it at 3 3 & 2.

    I have a question - is the NBA.com scoring still based on minutes played?
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    I don't know, but a 4 4 and 2 situation sure sounds like we would need to choose our top 10 very wisely. Seeing that this is a 24 team league, and the benches will be quite thin already compared to other fantasy formats, I'd leave it at 3 3 & 2.

    I have a question - is the NBA.com scoring still based on minutes played?

    Thanks for mentioning this. I was going to post this tonight.

    The scoting is based on total points scored. It has nothing to do with points per minute.

    Kinda makes all my research...... meaningless.

    Oh well, should be fun

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    I'd keep it at 3 3 2. We have a very large league.

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    The scoting is based on total points scored. It has nothing to do with points per minute.

    Kinda makes all my research...... meaningless.

    Oh well, should be fun


    Then how exactly is the scoring done when it's not based on fantasy points per minute?

    How do they transform NBA minutes to fantasy minutes?

    Or don't they work with minutes to begin with?

    (I don't quite get it. Can someone please explain before the draft starts?)

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    Its my understanding that it is based on total points scored. This is taken from the site.................

    Q. What are head-to-head leagues?
    A. In head-to-head leagues, standings are determined by intra-league match-ups. Two league members face off for each week of the season. After a predetermined amount of time prior to the end of the regular season, the fantasy playoffs will begin. At that point, the number of teams advancing to the playoffs will be determined by your league settings. The winner of the fantasy playoffs will be the league's overall champion. There are three variations of Head-to-Head action: Most Points is a Win - Points-based version of Head-to-Head. Two teams face off during the week and the team with the most fantasy points (sum of each league categorical stat multiplied by the respective categorical weight) during that week gets a win; the team with the least points gets a loss. Most Categories is a Win - Rotisserie version of Head-to-Head that requires a more well-rounded team to be successful. In a standard eight category league, the team that wins the most categories in a given one-week match-up gets the win for the week; the team that gets the least categories in that match-up earns a loss. Each Category is a Win - Similar to "Most Categories is a Win" above except that a win is earned for each category over a given week. For example, take a match-up in which Team A out-performed Team B in all eight standard categories during a given week. For "Most Categories is a Win" scoring, Team A would earn one win, Team B one loss for that week. If the scoring system was instead Head-to-Head "Each Category is a Win", Team A would earn eight wins for the week, and Team B would earn eight would earn zero wins and eight losses. The goal of "Most Categories" is to simply win - regardless of how close the match-up. "Each Category" rewards the team that dominates the competition.


    We're playing, the most points is a win.

    On the stat file that I sent you the number at the far right, the FPPM number, is meaningless in this format.

    The number directly to the left of it, the FPPG number will be more helpful in making selections.

    Keep in mind that this is a new format for our league so I doubt any one player has a big advantage over another.

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    Thanks, James.

    Your scoring system makes a lot more sense to me than nba.com's. Not take into account the number of minutes played doesn't seem entirely fair....but anyhow, it's all clear now.

    Another question: am I correct that it is best to pick as many players from (probable) playoffs teams as possible? Since players who are not in the playoffs won't score during the playoffs...

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    Thanks, James.

    Your scoring system makes a lot more sense to me than nba.com's. Not take into account the number of minutes played doesn't seem entirely fair....but anyhow, it's all clear now.

    Another question: am I correct that it is best to pick as many players from (probable) playoffs teams as possible? Since players who are not in the playoffs won't score during the playoffs...
    I think we have something like a 54 game regular season with as many as 28 games set aside as our "playoff" games. That total equals 82, which matches the NBA regular season.

    Our playoffs will start sometime during March & conclude with the last game of the regular NBA season.

    So no, will not need to draft only NBA playoff players.

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    Ah, ok.


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    I think we have something like a 54 game regular season with as many as 28 games set aside as our "playoff" games. That total equals 82, which matches the NBA regular season.

    Our playoffs will start sometime during March & conclude with the last game of the regular NBA season.

    So no, will not need to draft only NBA playoff players.
    Wait - I don't understand - I thought that all the play during a calendar week was totalled up to constitute a single head-to-head "game". Could you clarify the timing here?
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    What I mean is - I thought there are only going to be 20 or so "games" in the Fantasy season, and then the "Playoffs" are going to be one-and-done. Is that correct?
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    Ok so where is the site to log in for setting up our team

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    Ok so where is the site to log in for setting up our team
    I got a mail a few days ago from NBA.com. Press the link and it will direct you to the proper page. IF you have to use a password, after "claiming" your position then type "pacers".

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    I got a mail a few days ago from NBA.com. Press the link and it will direct you to the proper page. IF you have to use a password, after "claiming" your position then type "pacers".

    Goodluck!

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    Ah sure enough.. I missed it somehow, thanks

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    Ah sure enough.. I missed it somehow, thanks
    Anytime .

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    LA

    Our schedule is exactly like you described. Our regular season runs 20 weeks, we face one opponent per week, ending on March 18th.

    Then we have 4 playoff rounds where we also face one opponent per week.

    Thanks for pointing out my mistake.

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    Thanks for clarifying - I guess this makes a lot of decisions easier. For instance, If one of your backups is playing 5 games in 7 days, you might want them to replace one of your starters who only has 2 games that week. It's not about minutes, it's about total points.

    Do we know when the week officially begins, and when our linups have to be set for the week? or can we change the linups from day to day?

    Sorry if this is in the rules and I missed it.
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    The schedule runs Monday thru Sunday but I think you can change your starters thru the week.

    If nobody has coirrected me I'll double check on that tonight.

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    Changing starters through the week doesn't make sense - then you can flip-flop starters every day - Say Arenas plays M T & F, and you've got someone else that plays W Th and Sa. You besically get double points by flipping the linup over and over. I have to read more about this.
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    Changing starters through the week doesn't make sense - then you can flip-flop starters every day - Say Arenas plays M T & F, and you've got someone else that plays W Th and Sa. You besically get double points by flipping the linup over and over. I have to read more about this.
    Shouldn't work that way. In most of these types of leagues, scores will be counted for a given player's first 3 games during a week. If he plays a 4th that gets tossed aside. I assume this league does the same and you can only count so many games for each position.

    In fact - and I don't know this but I suspect it - if, say, you decided to start Arenas instead of Jason Kidd and Kidd had only played two games that week while Arenas was about to play his 4th, you'd get no points for that position.
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    Well, I've looked and looked for a detailed list of rules for points-based head-to-head play at NBA.com.

    If anyone knows where it is, could you post a link?

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    It appears that we can change our teams day-to-day.

    The question remains: does the scoring only count 3 games per position or does it count every game?

    In the second case one would of course just start the players that play that day...testing the depth of your team.

    In the first case the top players will be most important. The bench won't really make a difference, unless there are injuries. Doesn't seem fair that a 4th game won't be counted.

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    I have yet to find an explanation of how the scoring is actually calculated or the rules surrounding linup changes.

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    I sent an email to nba.com's fantasy service to find out.

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    The answer:

    It counts all games played that day for all players in a team's starting lineup



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