I read all weekend about everyones opinion on the shootout at the Club Rio. I read the typical variety of reactions, ranging from trade all of them now (or release them even), to the opinion that they did nothing wrong at all and were just defending themselves. I read info on how the Pacers didnt have a scheduled practice until 330 the next day, and how that our guys were victims and werent really at fault. I also read others thoughts who asked why they were their in the first place, questioning their loyalty, professionalism, and judgment. For the most part I fell somewhere in the middle majority, as I was concerned about the issues involved (drugs, guns, late nights, bad judgment, image problem, etc etc), but didnt overall think it was an issue that will be thought of or remembered much a few months from now.
However innocent the behavior was though, it does make me question their level of commitment and desire to be the very best they can be. I also have to question their own common sense and intelligence, to put themselves in that kind of situation. Clearly, to me there has to be some consequence to these guys actions, although minimal and tempered with how serious it might be. I'd probably fine them something for conduct detrimental to the team and give them extra running drills or something, and in general make their lives a little worse, as only coaches can do to players.
There are many different ways to motivate players in general, and their pride and ego are things that can be used in your favor if you do it the right way as a coach. The question I pose today is, what do you really want RC himself to do to these guys both now and in the near future?
I can tell you that even though I still remain of the opinion that as a coach I care alot more about who finishes the game than who starts one, I know in lots of players minds, and in the minds of plenty of fans on this board, that getting to start the game is a big deal. So, if that's the case, clearly not starting a game or series of games can be a huge mental thing a coach can do to create the kind of behavior and atmosphere he wants around his team. Being an NBA starter does carry a certain prestige and pride factor for some guys, so it can be a major motivator for some.
Both for the statement I think it makes, and for some other strategic reasons, id like to propose the following starting lineup for the first 7 games of the season or so, barring any other moves or injuries, and see what everyone thinks of it:
PG Armstrong
SG Granger
SF Harrington
PF Oneal
C Foster
Now clearly, I like a bigger lineup anyway, and I do like Granger at guard some, so I look at this in a slightly biased way anyway. However, I also think it sends a strong message that the best defensive 5 players will start, and that its these guys who have shown the level of dedication, attitude, and commitment that we are looking for, and thats the group I want to have the honor of starting for our franchise.
If you are RC, you might say something publically that while we understand that our guys did nothing wrong at the club, and had every right to be there, obviously their lack of professional behavior and poor thinking, along with Jackson's lack of practice time, has enabled Granger to beat him out for a starting spot. In Tinsley's case, you can say that clearly he is more talented, but Armstrongs enthusiasm, attitude, and on the ball defense has allowed him to earn this spot over him. You could say "if you want to earn it back Jamal, you'll have to show me you can handle the responsibility and also stay healthy while doing it." In Daniels case, you can say that he has an opportunity to play alot and start in the future, but clearly we are disappointed with his behavior so far, and when we think he is ready for the responsibility and honor of starting for us, we will make that happen....but clearly being at a strip joint in a seedy part of town during camp shows us he isnt mature enough to get that honor yet.
Using this grouping to start the game lets your first wave of bench players be Tinsley, Jackson, and Daniels. All three of these guys are likely to be better players than their respective backups playing for our opponents, and might give our second unit a boost. The flexibility that Granger, Harrington, Oneal, and Harrison give you can let you mix and match a front court combo to go with those 3 "supersubs". Foster can start and play a few minutes to start the game and then take a seat, and Baston, White, and Sarunas can play as needed. In this scenario I envision just using Armstrong for around a 6-7 minute span at the start to set a defensive tempo and tone, and then probably not using him again very much at all unless needed.
Starting Armstrong also lets me do something strategically that I want to do with Tinsley, which is to try and limit his minutes to about 25-28 or so, just to save him for later in the season if possible.
Now the other day I posted something about Harrison, and how I'd like to just start him in the second quarter each night and let him play the whole quarter. That idea still holds true for me but if you wanted to start him in the above proposed lineup Id be ok with it I think.
Using Foster to start and play a few first quarter minutes also limits the amount of time early in a first half that JO has to be the biggest guy on the floor. In the second half and especially in the fourth quarter Id likely use the JO-Al-Granger front court, but Id like to not have to use it so much early in games.
Id likely start the second half with Tinsley, Harrington, Granger, JO, and somebody else depending on the matchups and how I wanted to play the game strategically, but I like the mental game of manuevering my starting lineup this way both to maximize my bench guys abilities and to send a message about the type of dedication and attitude it takes to be a starter on our team and for our franchise.
As a coach, I think this type of early season discipline makes some sense.
If lack of playing time and prestige doesnt motivate a NBA player, then I dont know what will.
JMO
However innocent the behavior was though, it does make me question their level of commitment and desire to be the very best they can be. I also have to question their own common sense and intelligence, to put themselves in that kind of situation. Clearly, to me there has to be some consequence to these guys actions, although minimal and tempered with how serious it might be. I'd probably fine them something for conduct detrimental to the team and give them extra running drills or something, and in general make their lives a little worse, as only coaches can do to players.
There are many different ways to motivate players in general, and their pride and ego are things that can be used in your favor if you do it the right way as a coach. The question I pose today is, what do you really want RC himself to do to these guys both now and in the near future?
I can tell you that even though I still remain of the opinion that as a coach I care alot more about who finishes the game than who starts one, I know in lots of players minds, and in the minds of plenty of fans on this board, that getting to start the game is a big deal. So, if that's the case, clearly not starting a game or series of games can be a huge mental thing a coach can do to create the kind of behavior and atmosphere he wants around his team. Being an NBA starter does carry a certain prestige and pride factor for some guys, so it can be a major motivator for some.
Both for the statement I think it makes, and for some other strategic reasons, id like to propose the following starting lineup for the first 7 games of the season or so, barring any other moves or injuries, and see what everyone thinks of it:
PG Armstrong
SG Granger
SF Harrington
PF Oneal
C Foster
Now clearly, I like a bigger lineup anyway, and I do like Granger at guard some, so I look at this in a slightly biased way anyway. However, I also think it sends a strong message that the best defensive 5 players will start, and that its these guys who have shown the level of dedication, attitude, and commitment that we are looking for, and thats the group I want to have the honor of starting for our franchise.
If you are RC, you might say something publically that while we understand that our guys did nothing wrong at the club, and had every right to be there, obviously their lack of professional behavior and poor thinking, along with Jackson's lack of practice time, has enabled Granger to beat him out for a starting spot. In Tinsley's case, you can say that clearly he is more talented, but Armstrongs enthusiasm, attitude, and on the ball defense has allowed him to earn this spot over him. You could say "if you want to earn it back Jamal, you'll have to show me you can handle the responsibility and also stay healthy while doing it." In Daniels case, you can say that he has an opportunity to play alot and start in the future, but clearly we are disappointed with his behavior so far, and when we think he is ready for the responsibility and honor of starting for us, we will make that happen....but clearly being at a strip joint in a seedy part of town during camp shows us he isnt mature enough to get that honor yet.
Using this grouping to start the game lets your first wave of bench players be Tinsley, Jackson, and Daniels. All three of these guys are likely to be better players than their respective backups playing for our opponents, and might give our second unit a boost. The flexibility that Granger, Harrington, Oneal, and Harrison give you can let you mix and match a front court combo to go with those 3 "supersubs". Foster can start and play a few minutes to start the game and then take a seat, and Baston, White, and Sarunas can play as needed. In this scenario I envision just using Armstrong for around a 6-7 minute span at the start to set a defensive tempo and tone, and then probably not using him again very much at all unless needed.
Starting Armstrong also lets me do something strategically that I want to do with Tinsley, which is to try and limit his minutes to about 25-28 or so, just to save him for later in the season if possible.
Now the other day I posted something about Harrison, and how I'd like to just start him in the second quarter each night and let him play the whole quarter. That idea still holds true for me but if you wanted to start him in the above proposed lineup Id be ok with it I think.
Using Foster to start and play a few first quarter minutes also limits the amount of time early in a first half that JO has to be the biggest guy on the floor. In the second half and especially in the fourth quarter Id likely use the JO-Al-Granger front court, but Id like to not have to use it so much early in games.
Id likely start the second half with Tinsley, Harrington, Granger, JO, and somebody else depending on the matchups and how I wanted to play the game strategically, but I like the mental game of manuevering my starting lineup this way both to maximize my bench guys abilities and to send a message about the type of dedication and attitude it takes to be a starter on our team and for our franchise.
As a coach, I think this type of early season discipline makes some sense.
If lack of playing time and prestige doesnt motivate a NBA player, then I dont know what will.
JMO
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