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    Some of you suggested to trade Sjax for a bag of chips, well let's see what we reasonibly can get for him?

    1. trade with Washington Wizards

    Jackson/Marshall/Edwards for Thomas/Hayes

    The Wizards can still use a starting SG. They signed Stevenson this offseason and have Daniels as a combo guard but both guys aren't quality starters. Jackson can be a 3rd or 4th scoring option behind Arenas, Jamison and Butler.
    The Pacers have a need for a 3rd string C since Pollard left and Thomas is the kind of bruising big guy we lack. Hayes is a good shooter who will backup Daniels as SG. He's still young and although he has had some serious injury problems he also has only 2 years on his contract (next year he becomes a restricted free agent).

    2. trade with Seattle Supersonics

    Jackson/Marshall/Edwards for Fortson/Wilkins

    It's basically for the same kind of players with that difference that Fortson is expiring after this year. Jackson can be a good backup to both Allen and Lewis and can be an insurance player if Lewis opts out next year.

    3. trade with Minnesota Timberwolves

    Jackson/Edwards for Jaric/Wright

    This trade will give us two combo guards with different styles. Jaric is an excellent defender and is great in transition while Wright is the better shooter. Jaric could battle Daniels for the starting SG spot and can be a good duo with fellow European Jasikevicius off the bench.
    Jackson gives the Wolves a Sprewell type of guy, who can make the difference for them this season.

    There are probably more trade options but let's discuss which trade idea you like best?

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    Default Re: Some trade options for Jackson?

    Good thing Larry and Donnie aren't idiots and would never do any of these trades.

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    Default Re: Some trade options for Jackson?

    Trading Jack for any offers resembling those above will only lead to one thing:


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    1) Jackson/Marshall/Edwards for Thomas/Hayes

    I'd do that one. Thomas is a big boy that could help in the middle. Hayes is not bad either.

    2) Jackson/Marshall/Edwards for Fortson/Wilkins

    Fortson is more poison. No way!

    3) Jackson/Edwards for Jaric/Wright

    Talent wise we get raped here....but it might be time to cut the losses.


    I would do #1 depending on Thomas and Hayes' character.
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    We'll get better than that, but not too much better...

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    Default Re: Some trade options for Jackson?

    How about...

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    Default Re: Some trade options for Jackson?

    Or...

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    How about...
    This one I like very much, although it hurts losing Foster.

    Would Memphis go for this?

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    Some of you suggested to trade Sjax for a bag of chips, well let's see what we reasonibly can get for him?

    1. trade with Washington Wizards

    Jackson/Marshall/Edwards for Thomas/Hayes

    The Wizards can still use a starting SG. They signed Stevenson this offseason and have Daniels as a combo guard but both guys aren't quality starters. Jackson can be a 3rd or 4th scoring option behind Arenas, Jamison and Butler.
    The Pacers have a need for a 3rd string C since Pollard left and Thomas is the kind of bruising big guy we lack. Hayes is a good shooter who will backup Daniels as SG. He's still young and although he has had some serious injury problems he also has only 2 years on his contract (next year he becomes a restricted free agent).
    We don't need a starting 2. We have DeShawn and Hayes fighting for that spot. And we already have 3 legit scorers we don't need Jax, he'd be a cancer for us.

    How about this trade...

    Minnesota Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Ricky Davis
    6-7 SG from Iowa
    19.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.0 apg in 41.2 minutes
    Incoming
    Rawle Marshall
    6-7 SF from Oakland-MI
    3.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.7 minutes
    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +0.1 ppg, +0.8 rpg, and -1.8 apg.

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Rawle Marshall
    6-7 SF from Oakland-MI
    3.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.7 minutes
    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
    Incoming
    Ricky Davis
    6-7 SG from Iowa
    19.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.0 apg in 41.2 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -0.1 ppg, -0.8 rpg, and +1.8 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Minnesota and Indiana being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Minnesota and Indiana had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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    We don't need a starting 2. We have DeShawn and Hayes fighting for that spot. And we already have 3 legit scorers we don't need Jax, he'd be a cancer for us.

    How about this trade...
    I don't like Ricky Davis, but he's at least a new face. I'd be fine with that trade.

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    Jackson/Marshall/Edwards for Thomas/Hayes

    I'm a fan of Hayes and I don't mind Thomas but the Wizarads won't do that trade because they need Thomas.

    Jackson/Marshall/Edwards for Fortson/Wilkins
    I'd do this one. Fortson would give us a big body to get rebounds plus he is on an expiering contract and I like Wilkins, he is better than most think he is. I kinda wonder though if the Sonics would do it. Maybe try and replace Wilkins with Robert Swift. The Sonics have 3 talented young bigs in Petro, Swift, and Sene so maybe they would be willing to unload Swift.

    Jackson/Edwards for Jaric/Wright
    I think that Jaric is a solid player. Can play the 1 or the 2. Has great size and can defend. Only he is overpaid and has a long term contract and has had injury problems. Wright is nothing really special. Might as well cut him and JE out of the deal. Not for sure if I would do it but Jaric is one of the better players can get for Jackson. Maybe we could get Trenton Hassell for Jackson? I still don't know that the Timberwolves do that.

    Another opition would be the Cavs. A combination of Eric Snow, Damon Jones, Aleksandar Pavlovic, Ira Newble, or Luke Jackson would work.

    The Nuggets are another possiable opition but IDK for sure. Julius Hodge or JR Smith along with Eduardo Najera might work.

    The Lakers are another team that might have interest in Jackson but IDK for sure. They would probably offer a combination of Smush Parker (maybe), Sasha Vujacic, Aaron Mckie, Luke Walton, and Brian Cook.

    Most probably are expecting Mike Miller or Ricky Davis in return for Jackson but it won't happen. Jackson is not worth it.

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    Jackson has very little trade value, if you ask me.. I think we'd have to take on a HUGE contract for a marginal player to get rid of him, at this point.

    *looks towards Knicks*

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    Trading Jack for any offers resembling those above will only lead to one thing:

    For some reason people on here are fine with that. I mean who cares about winning now right? After all we have the great Danny Granger to lead us to many championships in the future.....I bet he's never been to a strip club....

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    For some reason people on here are fine with that. I mean who cares about winning now right? After all we have the great Danny Granger to lead us to many championships in the future.....I bet he's never been to a strip club....
    Like Jackson is the piece to the Pacers winning a championship?

    This Pacers team right now is likely a playoff team, but a championship team they are far from.

    And even if we didn't get a quality player in return for Jackson, we still have Marquis Daniels who is a worthy starter. And I think that James White could back him up at the 2.

    I know that a lot had a hard time swallowing the thought of the Pacers trading Ron and I could somewhat understand that. But Jackson? You are sheding tears over Stephen Jackson?

    I would think that of all the fans out there that us fans should be on the ones to realize how badly incidents like the one that just happened impact a team. I guess not...

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    "Rickkkky dAVis!"

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    "Rickkkky dAVis!"
    Works for me.

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    Jackson has very little trade value, if you ask me.. I think we'd have to take on a HUGE contract for a marginal player to get rid of him, at this point.

    *looks towards Knicks*
    Let's play a game called, "how badly do we want to get rid of Stephen Jackson?"


    I say, this badly!:

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes

    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes

    Josh Powell
    6-9 SF from North Carolina State
    3.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.7 minutes
    Incoming

    Steve Francis
    6-3 PG from Maryland
    14.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.9 apg in 34.2 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -10.9 ppg, -11.1 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

    New York Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Steve Francis
    6-3 PG from Maryland
    14.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.9 apg in 34.2 minutes
    Incoming

    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes

    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes

    Josh Powell
    6-9 SF from North Carolina State
    3.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.7 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +10.9 ppg, +11.1 rpg, and -1.1 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana and New York being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and New York had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    Default Re: Some trade options for Jackson?

    How about this:

    Jax & Foster for Larry Hughes.

    Cleveland needs frontline help and Brown was always a good babysitter, er, coach for Jax.

    The trade does work numbers wise, but I doubt any other team will touch Jax right now.

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    nobody wants jackson. its like trying to sell enron stock to somebody...isnt gonna happen.

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    Jax for a LITERAL bag of chips?

    Munchos preferably...
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    Jax for a LITERAL bag of chips?

    Munchos preferably...
    You know, I'd really like to see how Munchos are made, someday.

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    New York might bite if we package Tinsley with Jack. It's impossible though considering ALL the factors. (Isiah, Bird and all that stuff) Jack can be moved in time. If we were able to move Artest I don't see why it's such a daunting task to move Jack. GMs need talent and are willing to look the other way on players' past bad actions while they were in another team, and there's a lot of desperate teams out there starving for a reliable SG. Besides, Jack doesn't really have a bad rep til the brawl and this incident. It's unfortunate but you can't really put the guy in Artest's class in terms of being cancer in a team. Jack can be moved but of course not at the moment. Something is going to happen behind the scenes.

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    Firstly... I think Dolan has told Zeke no more moves. So despite that being probably the team most likely to take either Jax or Tins, it won't happen.

    Secondly... the Grizz and Wiz trades won't happen. The Wiz trade for what was mentioned above (already have a crowd at that position). Memphis is in desperate need of a front line (even before Pau was injured) and while Foster could be a nice compliment to Pau, he's not the answer. And they won't be trading Miller soon.

    Last... I like the Sonics deal (not crazy about fortson but love d wilkins) some others i'd consider...

    TO SPURS... S Jackson, S. Jasikevicius, R. Marshall
    TO PACERS... B. Barry, R. Horry


    San Antonio needs reliable young backup players. I think Sarunas could excel in the SA system, Jackson was solid there before, maybe he needs a fresh start in a familiar place and he certainly can provide the same role that Barry did off the bench. We get two older players but (as we've seen with DA) younger isn't always better. Both Horry and Barry would provide outside shooting that we desperately need and veteran leadership. From there the Pacers would cut Snap, Lampley, and Edwards.

    The biggest problem with this deal is that SA actually has more players than we do. Plus I'm not sure why they'd want Sarunas. But thats a deal I might try to piece together.

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    Horry wouldn't be ok with coming to Indiana.

    They could throw in Finley if they wanted.

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    Horry wouldn't be ok with coming to Indiana.

    They could throw in Finley if they wanted.
    Finley on the Pacers! A dream come true! Just 4 seasons or so too late.

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