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    Well, last week didn't do much for me, but this one kicked ***. Sure glad little Tyrol won't have to worry about Saul and Ellen raising him.

    However, once again, the preview gives too much away, even with just the first line.
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    Well, last week didn't do much for me, but this one kicked ***. Sure glad little Tyrol won't have to worry about Saul and Ellen raising him.

    However, once again, the preview gives too much away, even with just the first line.

    As soon as they said stay tuned for scenes from next week I changed the channel.

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    God damn tonight's was good. This is the best show.

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    Pretty cool about the kid, huh?

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    Good Ep this week

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    I finally had the chance to sit down and watch it last night. That was a great episode. The entrance of the Galactica onto New Caprica was absolutely ingenius. Everything about this episode was spot on brilliant.
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    Eh. Came off as a mediocre TNG ep to me.
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    Eh. Came off as a mediocre TNG ep to me.
    Not sorry I missed it then.

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    I thought it was good. I did do a lot to move the storyline along.

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    A mediocre ep. of BSG is a good to great ep. of television. Not a lot of progress in the story this week, but it makes me think less of a few characters.

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    *bump*

    Good episode yesterday.

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    *bump*

    Good episode yesterday.
    Great episode. The rationale for the Cylons coming back and trying to commoit genocide was because they figured humans would eventually get around to doing it to them.

    Here. we're put in the same position and we decide to do the exact same thing. I though Adama was frighteningly non-commital. The humas keep seeking lower and lower, basing their decisions on fear and vengence. Very interesting.
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    Great episode. The rationale for the Cylons coming back and trying to commoit genocide was because they figured humans would eventually get around to doing it to them.

    Here. we're put in the same position and we decide to do the exact same thing. I though Adama was frighteningly non-commital. The humas keep seeking lower and lower, basing their decisions on fear and vengence. Very interesting.
    On that note Helo is becoming a favoritte character of mine

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    I thought this was a good, short read on BSG:

    http://www.slate.com/id/2154625/

    Captain's LogWant to understand Battlestar Galactica? Eavesdrop on its writers.
    By Adam Rogers
    Posted Wednesday, Nov. 29, 2006, at 5:24 PM ET

    Ronald D. Moore. Click image to expand.Battlestar Galactica writer and executive producer Ronald D. Moore
    Ronald D. Moore, the executive producer of Battlestar Galactica, has created a great show with a goofy title. The title isn't his fault, of course—he's remaking a crappy 1970s sci-fi relic—and, in any case, it lured in an audience of geeks who will watch anything with the word star in the title. A few months ago, Moore told me (and, more recently, Entertainment Weekly's Jeff Jensen) that the geeky title means a swath of Battlestar's potential audience doesn't tune in.

    Whether as fan service or a hunt for those missing viewers, Moore has done Herculean labors to promote his show. He blogs and he podcasts DVD-like audio commentary tracks for every episode; die-hards painstakingly synchronize their iPods and TiVos every week. But if you really want to understand what makes Battlestar Galactica great, scroll through the iTunes list to the podcasts called "Battlestar Galactica Writers Meeting." These are four hours of unedited recordings from the writers' room, and they're fascinating, even for the uninitiated. The podcasts are like a master class in how to make good television.

    For most of those four hours, writers David Weddle and Bradley Thompson are working on an episode called "Scar" (which aired Feb. 6), presenting their detailed outline of the episode to Moore, the show runner. (The process is called "breaking.") Moore made his bones working on Star Trek spinoffs, which he says had an almost totalitarian approach to breaking and story development. Trek characters weren't allowed to have flaws or conflicts, and almost every story was external—it originated as a mission from Starfleet or as a complication posed by some visitor. As a result, Trek plots don't hold up; shows from the last 20 years seem stilted and predictable. BSG is rigorous about "breaking" stories, too, but to the opposite end. Every show is internally directed and driven by character, by conflict. There are no aliens with weird foreheads or pointy ears on the Galactica—just imperfect people in extraordinary circumstances.

    While breaking "Scar," the writers get stuck on a plot point. The Galactica is a sort of aircraft carrier in space, home to dozens of fighter pilots; Weddle and Thompson's story is about how those pilots deal with facing an unbeatable, Red Baron-like enemy. The writers' problem is, why does it make sense that the Galactica has to stay in one place while one of the bad guys—they're called Cylons—picks off its fighters? Why doesn't the Galactica just, you know, fly away?

    One writer suggests that they're fixing the engines (a true standby of science fiction, one that served Star Trek for decades). Another writer proposes that Galactica's fighters—called Vipers—are vulnerable because they're flying attenuated, long-distance patrols. Moore eventually decides that the fleet must have manufacturing facilities, but needs raw material, some magic metal for building Vipers found only where the ship is stuck. "Then it can influence the conversations in the ready room," Moore says, "because of the psychological toll on the pilots. Now their machines are more valuable than they are."

    But the podcasts are about more than geeky plot points. While the BSG writers break the story, they also bare their souls. And it's here that the podcasts move from a peek at the sausage-making process to great, almost intimate, radio drama. I don't recognize any of the writers' voices except for Moore's, but it takes all of 20 minutes for their personalities to shine through. One falls back on Hollywood shorthand, blazing through a string of references to other TV shows and movies—The Right Stuff, The Getaway, and so on. Another turns to military history for inspiration, referencing Royal Navy traditions and heavy drinking among Vietnam-era pilots. (So that's why Starbuck, one of the main characters, takes that crazy, boozy dive off a barroom table.) Family stories get told, like how a writer's salesman father superstitiously avoided ever putting his hat on a hotel-room bed. The writers have all become characters in their own story, the particulars of which dribble into the episodes.

    The last hour of the podcasts consists of a planning meeting, and the writers go completely wild. Moore tosses out the idea of doing an episode told from the point of view of two of the killer androids. Then, the whole group tries to figure out the Cylons' deeper motivations via a rapid-fire series of metaphors. The Cylons are Nazis, hell-bent on solving the Human Question. The Cylons are Jews, trying to defend Israel. The Cylons are U.S. troops in Iraq, caught off guard by an uprising.

    Building in all that symbolism turns out to be complicated—who's representing what changes from week to week, from scene to scene. In just eight episodes, the current season has morphed humans from Iraqi-style insurgents into post-apartheid South Africans, complete with a truth and reconciliation commission. I once heard a media-studies professor claim that the best, most adult television shows embrace cognitive dissonance as a storytelling tool. He was talking about the old cop show Hill Street Blues, but I understood him to mean that characters and situations seem more "real" if they have an ambiguous, or situational, alignment on the grid from Dungeons & Dragons (good versus evil, lawful versus chaotic). I realize I'm mixing my geek metaphors here, but the podcasts illustrate the ambiguity of the Battlestar Galactica approach: There's no single political subtext. The show has all the subtexts at once.

    Eventually, Moore goes on a riff that tees up all the narrative pitch and yaw of the end of Season 2, which concluded with a seriously ballsy move: jumping the whole story forward a year in an instant—forcing viewers, as Moore puts it, "to play catch-up, which I think is really fun." Other TV shows have built extended story arcs—Chris Carter did it on The X-Files, and we might charitably assume that J.J. Abrams knows what's really happening on the Lost island. But actually hearing a producer of Moore's caliber work through the process is thrilling, because he relies on the improvisational qualities of the writers' room. Maybe he has no idea whether his human characters will ever find the (possibly mythical) Earth. It doesn't matter. He and his writers are building a world to live in, not a theory to unravel. It's a world that does more than transcend his show's silly title. It actually redeems it.

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    Awesome post. They really go into depth as to some of the symbolism in BSG. I knew their was a reason I liked this show.

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    http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6396724.html

    'Battlestar Galactica’ Jumping to Sundays
    By R. Thomas Umstead 12/4/2006

    Next month, Sci Fi Channel will dock its flagship series Battlestar Galactica in another television galaxy: Sunday nights.

    After two and half seasons of anchoring the network’s popular Friday night original-series block, Sci Fi will move the last 10 episodes of the show’s season to TV’s busiest night, starting Jan. 21. The scheduling change is a means to avoid what network executive vice president and general manger David Howe says is increased competition in the science-fiction genre from broadcast shows like CBS’s Ghost Whisperer, as well as widespread recording of the series.

    But Battlestar will wind up squaring off against Without a Trace and other stiff competition from cable and broadcast networks on arguably the most competitive night of the week.

    Still, Howe believes the show will thrive in its new time slot, when it will face little or no direct genre competition from linear networks.

    “We’re confident that the audience will follow on a Sunday night and will create a powerful appointment-to-view block which will hold its own against what is perceived to be tougher competition, but in fact is less tough in terms of direct, head-to-head genre competition,” he said.

    This fall, Sci Fi took a chance by launching for the first time a fresh round of episodes from original series into the teeth of the broadcast season. But in looking to establish a Friday night fall tentpole, Battlestar was also disengaged from the Stargate series that had accompanied it in the past.

    TIME-SHIFTED STRUGGLES

    Sci Fi’s highest-rated original scripted series has struggled during the first half of its third season, which began Oct. 6 and ends Dec. 15. Through Nov. 17, the show’s premiere installments averaged a 1.4 household rating and 1.8 million viewers, well below the 2.1 rating and 2.4 million viewers the show attracted during the 10-episode first half of its sophomore season from July to September 2005, and the 1.9/2.1 million during its 10-installment second half from January to March 2006.

    But Howe said the program’s performance is skewed because of heavy digital video recorder action — a quarter of its viewing is time-shifted, according to Howe.

    With DVR viewing factored in, the show has averaged a 1.8 household rating and 2.25 million viewers through Nov. 10 and has recorded a 2% gain to 1.4 million of Sci Fi’s target audience of adults 18 to 49, compared with the show’s full second season.

    Heavy DVR usage among younger viewers aside, Battlestar has also taken some hits from a pair of broadcast shows that touch the genre.

    “Friday has become much more competitive,” Howe said. “There are more original and scripted shows that have been scheduled against us like [CBS] Ghost Whisperer which is very close to us in terms of genre and Numbers which is very close to us in demo. That has affected us more that we would have liked.”

    Another Friday factor: the absence of new episodes of Stargate SG-1 and its spinoff Stargate Atlantis, and the millions of viewers they drew to Sci Fi and Battlestar on that night.

    On Sundays, Dresden Files, the network’s new supernatural detective series, will serve as Battlestar’s lead-in.

    FRIDAYS ORIGINAL VIABLE

    Howe added the network isn’t abandoning Friday night as an original series destination. Despite its struggles, overall the network’s primetime lineup — which includes Dr. Who at 8 p.m., Battlestar at 9 p.m. and Dr. Who and Stargate repeats, has shown ratings increases over the same period last year.

    For the fourth quarter to date, the network averaged a 1.2 rating from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. on Fridays, up 50% over the 0.6 rating for the same period last year, when Sci Fi was largely airing series encores that night in primetime. Viewership is up 89% among adults 18 to 49 (810,000 vs. 429,000) and 82% among adults 25 to 54 (932,000 vs. 512,000) during the time period.

    In second quarter, Sci Fi will air the final episodes of the 10th and final season of Stargate SG-1, as well as new episodes of Stargate Atlantis.

    In addition, the network will replace Battlestar at 10 p.m. with a new show, Painkiller Jane — a series based on the invincible comic book superheroine.

    SIZING UP THE COMPETITION

    Howe wouldn’t rule out a return of Battlestar to Fridays in the future, depending on the night’s competition and the series’ performance on Sundays.

    For now, Battlestar and Dresden Files will do battle against heavy competition from ABC’s Desperate Housewives at 9 p.m. and Brothers and Sisters at 10 p.m., as well as CBS’ Without A Trace at 10 p.m.

    Sci Fi will also vie against VH1’s popular Sunday-night block of youth-targeted “Celebreality” fare, although it won’t have to endure another season of VH1’s most successful reality series Flavor Of Love, which will not return for a third season.
    I can live with the change, but I hope this doesn't point to a future cancellation before the story is over. My guess is that if it's not canceled, it will end with Season 5.

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    Anyone know where I can track down last week's episode online? I'm dying to watch it before this week's episode.
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    At the very least, you could buy it on itunes (I think for $2). If you're looking for something free, well... I don't think I should say anything given your profession.

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    I find it funny that SciFi says that BSG is a victim of DVR's and that “Friday has become much more competitive," yet when SG1 was experiancing the SAME problems they were saying that it was because of the series itself. Talk about being biased.

    At least the article gets it right when they say that "the absence of new episodes of Stargate SG-1 and its spinoff Stargate Atlantis, and the millions of viewers they drew to Sci Fi and Battlestar on that night" is a factor. If only SciFi would get their heads out of the sand and realize that as good as BSG is ( I am definetly hooked), that a big reason for its success is the Stargate franchise, the franchise they have stabbed in the back by canceling SG1.



    In other news I will still watch on Sunday.

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    Still don't like this Sunday move.

    Anyway, I know this is probably splitting hairs (no pun intended), but does anyone else think Baltar's beard was to better draw a parallel with Saddam? Obviously's last night's ep was all about the morality of torture, and next week we get the show trial. Obviously it was shot beforehand, but Zarek's points reminded me of what happened with Saddam's execution.

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    I was starting to think along those lines last night, but before that I was thinking "Jesus Baltar".

    Last night was a pretty good episode, I thought. As Skaut was saying a while ago, the humans keep sinking lower and lower. Episodes like this always make me sympathize with Baltar.

    Speaking of which, I want to raise this question to BSG followers: Do you think Baltar deserves the blame for the initial Cylon attack on the 12 colonies? Or, let me put that another way: Does he deserve AS MUCH of the blame as he is getting by Roslin, Adama, etc.?

    While I think some of the responsibility is clearly his, I'm extremely sympathetic to the fact that it seems he had no clue what he was really doing (relating to Cylons and the following genocide). For that, it's hard for me to side with our "heroes" as they treat him like Osama Bin Laden would be treated behind close doors by our government if they had him and the public didn't know it.

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    I've never watched this show - but I've heard good things. Is it good enough for me to buy the DVD and watch it. Maybe I'll watch it this summer

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    Speaking of which, I want to raise this question to BSG followers: Do you think Baltar deserves the blame for the initial Cylon attack on the 12 colonies? Or, let me put that another way: Does he deserve AS MUCH of the blame as he is getting by Roslin, Adama, etc.?
    Well, IIRC, he gave Six access to the defense network. Did he know she was a Cylon and doing so would bring about the almost Genocide of his race? No, but he still knew it was a no-no. I think it's a good parallel to all the intelligence leaks in Washington. The rules are there for a reason.

    Now, that said, I think Roslin and Adama believe Baltar was more complicit than he actually was, both on Caprica and New Caprica. All they saw was Baltar's signature on the death orders, not the gun pointed to his head when he signed. Doesn't excuse him, but it makes things less black-and-white. I think they give him too much credit. He's more of a coward than a traitor.
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    I've never watched this show - but I've heard good things. Is it good enough for me to buy the DVD and watch it. Maybe I'll watch it this summer
    Buy Season 1. It comes not only with that season, but the 4-hour miniseries that came out first, which lead to the new show (same cast/crew for the show and the mini).

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    Well, IIRC, he gave Six access to the defense network. Did he know she was a Cylon and doing so would bring about the almost Genocide of his race? No, but he still knew it was a no-no. I think it's a good parallel to all the intelligence leaks in Washington. The rules are there for a reason.

    Now, that said, I think Roslin and Adama believe Baltar was more complicit than he actually was, both on Caprica and New Caprica. All they saw was Baltar's signature on the death orders, not the gun pointed to his head when he signed. Doesn't excuse him, but it makes things less black-and-white. I think they give him too much credit. He's more of a coward than a traitor.
    Yeah, he's more a self serving weasel than anything else.

    And Hicks, I think he deserves as much blame as is heaped on him. Why? It was a defense network. a DEFENSE network. Why would anyone want access to someone's defenses? For me, cluelessness is not a defense, so to speak.
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