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Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

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The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

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    The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

    “I’m never going to find this place,” naturallystoned grumbled.

    This was certainly out of the delivery area and no time for a pizza as it was almost four in the morning. But the pizza chain that he worked for was always trying to get the better of the other competitors, and that’s why he is out where no else dared to go.

    He was on a paved road that eventually turned to a gravel one but now it was little more than a dirt path. As he went around a corner, he saw several figures in the road up ahead but he couldn’t make them out. As he got closer however, he could see what was happening. They were at least three furry man-like animals ranging in size devouring something in the middle of the road. As he drew even closer he felt his stomach turn as he realized they were indeed eating a human alive. As he gunned his car towards the group, and they finally took notice. He managed to hit one straight on totally mutilating the hood and splattering blood over the window. The car then swerved off the road and by the time the window had been cleaned he lost sight of the road. And yet in the rear view mirror he saw that these creatures were following him. When all hope seemed to be lost he saw a signal fire to his right. He then headed that way and as he got closer he could see a primitive compound with a wall surrounding it. As his luck had it, he was traveling through a field and his Stratus was not built to be off-road and he got stuck a good distance from the gates.

    He glanced around and to his surprise he didn’t see anything behind him as the sun had started to rise above the trees. He then abandoned his car and headed towards the mysterious place up ahead.

    As naturallystoned passed through the gate, he was met by what seemed to be the entire town. One man, simply known as Shade, stepped in front of the group and said, “I bet you have a lot of questions, come inside my humble abode and I‘ll fill you in.” As it turns out Shade was just appointed mayor a few short days ago after the last mayor had killed himself. He went onto explain how everyone here had come ended up here for various reasons but they were all trapped because a minority of the group were, as silly as it sounded, werewolves. The group had largely been spared because the wolves usually had their fill on the outsiders and locals. However, they had been warned that they won’t be so lucky if they ever try to rise up or try to escape. Just as he finished up, Tyrion came through the door, and said. “The recovery team just returned Mayor, the car is a total loss because we won’t be able to free it before nightfall. There is one more thing sir…”

    “What it is?”, Shade yelled.

    “Two of our men were found outside dead.”

    Shade then raced outside as the bodies were being carried up. The lifeless body of Suaveness was revealed first. His left side was missing and there were claw marks all over his face and torso. It seemed that he had enough of it and decided to make a break for it. Then the second body was revealed, and it was what was left of btowncolt’s body. He was the wolf that had been run over by naturallystoned. However, some wondered how being hit had killed him, but a closer look revealed that he too had been eaten.

    Bum Bum Bummm…

    ------------

    Hopefully everyone will respond to the thread and I hope to resume the game either late Monday night as I and hopefully most have plans for Labor Day.

    1) Mourning
    2) Pig Nash
    3) bellisimo
    4) Rasky
    5) naturallystoned - Dead (Eaten Night #0) Human
    6) Since86
    7) pollardfreek - Dead (Hung Day #1) Human
    8) Robertmto
    9) SoupIsGood
    10) Fool
    11) Gyron
    12) Hoop
    13) Suaveness - Dead (Eaten Night #-1) Human
    14) twscholl
    15) 0731
    16) Anthem
    17) Lord Helmet
    18) SycamoreKen
    19) Shade
    20) Tyrion
    21) Bayoupacer
    22) Karmakillaz
    23) btowncolt - Dead (Eaten Night #-1) Wolf
    Originally posted by Natston;n3510291
    I want the people to know that they still have 2 out of the 3 T.J.s working for them, and that ain't bad...
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    Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

    Cool! Nice introduction naturallystoned! I say ... let's hang Robertmto!!! He's bound to be guilty and we don't need no Wizard fans in our peacefull and rational community anyway!












    Just kidding, Robertmto!!! Ok, so who gets to start first? We (humans) or them (the Wolves)?

    Regards,

    Mourning
    2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

    2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

    2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up, sports.ws

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    • #3
      Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

      Hahaha you loser. Thanks tho
      Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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      • #4
        Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

        My friends, one (possibly two) of our number have been murdered by these evil, savage beasts we call werewolves. As there is no way out of this town, it is apparent that the wolves walk amongst us, disguised as men. As such, it is our duty to seek out these monsters and destroy them before we fall, one by one!

        If you have suspicions as to who is responsible for the deaths of Suaveness and Btowncolt (assuming he wasn't a wolf), please step forward with a suspect and an explanation of your belief. We will not go quietly into that good night!

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        • #5
          Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

          Oh My, two of our brethren have been killed. I know not what to say.

          I know not enough about my compund mates to know who to chose.

          On a complete guess.....I'm gonna go with Pollardfreeeeekkkkk.

          I hope I am lucky in this day and have chosen wisely. If not, I am sincerely sorry Mr. Freak.

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          • #6
            Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

            Ha! I win!

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            • #7
              Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

              So, who is playing this time?

              /ooc

              The town seems awfully lonely so far...

              --From the journal of SoupIsGood
              You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?

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              • #8
                Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

                Originally posted by SoupIsGood View Post
                So, who is playing this time?

                /ooc

                The town seems awfully lonely so far...

                --From the journal of SoupIsGood
                1) Mourning
                2) Pig Nash
                3) bellisimo
                4) Rasky
                5) naturallystoned
                6) Since86
                7) pollardfreek
                8) Robertmto
                9) SoupIsGood
                10) Fool
                11) Gyron
                12) Hoop
                13) twscholl
                14) 0731
                15) Anthem
                16) Lord Helmet
                17) SycamoreKen
                18) Shade
                19) Tyrion
                20) Bayoupacer
                21) Karmakillaz

                Ok, so any volunteers for a "heads-off" experience?



                Regards,

                Mourning
                2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

                2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

                2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up, sports.ws

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                  Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

                  alas...an explanation as to why the skies have been crying for the past few days....

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                    Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

                    Originally posted by Mourning View Post
                    Cool! Nice introduction naturallystoned! I say ... let's hang Robertmto!!! He's bound to be guilty and we don't need no Wizard fans in our peacefull and rational community anyway!












                    Just kidding, Robertmto!!! Ok, so who gets to start first? We (humans) or them (the Wolves)?

                    Regards,

                    Mourning

                    This time the humans will start it out, but after another story.
                    Originally posted by Natston;n3510291
                    I want the people to know that they still have 2 out of the 3 T.J.s working for them, and that ain't bad...

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                      Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

                      Squinting into the morning sun I walk over to the crowd and look over the mutilated bodies.

                      Shaking my head, "So, they finally made a run for it. They said being locked up with a bunch of guys was driving them nuts."

                      Looking at the group, "I can't blame them for that though, we aren't exactly the Pacemates, err make that, Heat dancers. I never thought they would risk the wrath of the wolves over it though."

                      I turn and look at the high walls and stout gate. "We live in a fortress, but the enemy is among us. These two fools now hand the rest of us to the wolves in order to satisfy their carnal needs. I can't say I'm sorry they didn't make it. And, to top it off, the pizza guy here leaves the food in the car when he bailed."

                      My gaze shifts from the wall to the motley crew that inhabits this prison. "As for you my fellow citizens, our time together thus far has been short. It is hard to trust anyone knowing that some are ready to pounce once darkness falls. This lack of camaraderie has led me to withhold my choice for the gallows until I get to know more of you better. I will say though, a silent tongue raises suspicions in my mind."

                      I nod to Shade. "It seems your job has gotten harder sir. May wisdom guide you judiciously through these troubled times."

                      Stepping back I take a seat on a bench and watch the crowd, awaiting the ideas to come.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

                        Dear diary,

                        I have to tell you something tonight that is not easy for me to say. You know, you and I go back a long time. Remember when I used to write in you about what happened to me yesterday? Ah, those were the days. It seems like it was only yesterday.

                        Today, my dearest diary, I took my herd for a walk in the green fields towards the top of the hill. As I reached the top, I saw Fool sitting there. I started talking to him but he didn't give an answer. He had his usual foolish grin on his face.

                        All of a sudden my dog started barking. There was someone down there touching my sheep! I ran down the hill towards the back parts of the herd. It was the town's farmer, SoupIsGood! He was grabbing one of the sheep and with an eager smile on his face he was repeatedly saying: Sheep ****ing, sheep ****ing, sheep ****ing!!!! I pushed him away from Martha (the name of the sheep) and said to him: SoupIsGood, what are you doing? Think of your wife, think of your children, think of THE children!

                        Yes, yes, you're right, SIG answered, I can't do this. He started crying. This stays between us, right, SIG said. Sure, man, you know you can trust me, said I. And there he ran off the hill towards the village, with his head hiding in his hands in shame. Seeing him hit a tree a few seconds later thus didn't really come as a surprise. I still had some wandering to do, so I left him lying there at the tree. But that, dear diary, wasn't the only thing that happened to me today that's hard to tell you.

                        Coming home from a long day of sheep herding, I was very, very hungry. I ordered a pizza from a pizza chain out of town, since there aren't any pizza places in town. Our eerie mayor has forbidden that for some mysterious reason. I waited for half an hour, I waited for an hour, still no pizza. I called the pizza chain to complain, and asked if they would send someone else, but there was no one there that wanted to make the trip to our, as some may say, rather strange town. No pizza for me tonight. I had to settle for some raw vegetables I got from SIG. Things like that really screw my day. Somebody's gotta pay for all this!!!!

                        Oh, I also heard Suaveness and btowncolt were killed today. There were rumors that btowncolt was a wolf and was as well guilty of the death of poor Suave. But he sure was a kind wolf, if so. He always used tell jokes to my beloved sheep and play with them. Sometimes it even seemed like he just couldn't leave them. Anyhow, somebody's gotta pay for this, too.

                        --From the diary of Raskolnikov, town's shepherd
                        Word on the street is he doesn't want your money, he only wants to please your ears...
                        Bum in Berlin on Myspace

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                          Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

                          Originally posted by Raskolnikov View Post
                          All of a sudden my dog started barking. There was someone down there touching my sheep! I ran down the hill towards the back parts of the herd. It was the town's farmer, SoupIsGood! He was grabbing one of the sheep and with an eager smile on his face he was repeatedly saying: Sheep ****ing, sheep ****ing, sheep ****ing!!!!
                          --From the diary of Raskolnikov, sheep herd


                          Didn't know you had THAT in you, SIG, you old sheep****er .
                          2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

                          2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

                          2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up, sports.ws

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                          • #14
                            Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

                            Originally posted by Mourning View Post


                            Didn't know you had THAT in you, SIG, you old sheep****er .
                            we all have our dirty little secrets Mourning...
                            I hope you didn't forget the time I caught you with the missus of our Mayor... oops...I think I've said too much.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Wolf Game Begins, Returns and it's United

                              I sat under a building overhang to avoid the sun seeing as I was hungover and thought to myself, God damn it I ended up in this town because I was a dumb college student stumbling around in a drunken daze. Damned frat initiations. Now I am stuck here waiting to be destroyed by wolves. Not if I can help it. Pass me another yager bomb, I'm just drunk enough to fight.

                              -0731


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