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  • #31
    Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

    Originally posted by Lord Helmet View Post
    Wow. I certainly didn't expect the Steelers to be shutout by the Jags.

    Colts better be ready this Sunday.

    Granted I didn't watch much of this game, but man did it look boring.....
    Alot of hard hitting. A number of dropped passes. Jags imposed thier will on both sides of the line.

    Jags have always played the Colts very tough, especially upfront.
    I had thought from the beginning this will be the big test before the Bye week

    Although I expect a different game plan for the Colts. 9 points probably will not get it done.

    Why Not Us ?

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    • #32
      Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

      I thought we'd at least score. Our defense was generally up to the task but our offense just could not get going. Running, passing, no huddle. It didn't matter.

      We lost the field position battle (thanks in part to some bad decisions by Holmes on special teams). We lost the turnover battle (did Holmes even turn his head on that one pass?). (Have I mentioned yet that I do not agree with that draft decision.)

      Most importantly, we lost the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

      That really was a great game, too bad the wrong team (IMO) won the line of scrimmage.

      I think last night is Exhibit A in my concern about our running game.

      Our offense is not designed for a cutback runner. Willie Parker is easy to tackle in our offense if he's running upright. In fact, we tried the same thing in 2002 with Bettis and that's when the "He's washed up" rumors started.

      In our offense, you've got to attack the hole and then make a second move downfield. Right now, we're trying to be something we're not.

      We obviously can't turn Willie into a power back, but he can run north-south and try to make the defender "miss" four yards upfield, instead of in our backfield.

      Congrats to Jacksonville, they out-hit us. And that doesn't happen often.
      Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
      Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
      Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
      Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
      And life itself, rushing over me
      Life itself, the wind in black elms,
      Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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      • #33
        Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

        Here's a gem from the PPG:

        Smizik: Steelers, Parker run into trouble
        Tuesday, September 19, 2006

        By Bob Smizik, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

        JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Anyone expecting an angry Bill Cowher after the Steelers' 9-0 loss last night to the Jacksonville Jaguars was in for a surprise.

        Cowher was calm and cool despite an awful offensive performance that ended a nine-game winning streak.

        He just didn't have much to say, which was as it should be because there wasn't really anything to say.

        Asked if he could remember when his team was so thoroughly dominated on offense, Cowher simply said, "No."

        Asked if there was any explanation for the team's normally superb running game picking up only 26 yards on 14 carries, he said, "I don't have any right now."

        Offensive tackle Max Starks might have put it best. "We just didn't execute."

        At least no one was worrying any longer about whether the Steelers could find someone to successfully handle the job as the team's No. 2 running back.

        For the moment, the Steelers have to be concerned about the No. 1 running back.

        No one expected them to move easily against the massive Jaguars' defensive line, which last season held the Steelers to their second-lowest rushing total, 70 yards on 30 carries, in an overtime loss. But nor did anyone expect the total lack of success of the running game.

        With defensive tackles Marcus Stroud, 6 feet 6, 312 pounds, and John Henderson, 6-7, 325 pounds, leading the way, the Jaguars gave starting running back Willie Parker absolutely no running room.

        Parker gained 20 on 11 carries.

        He carried eight times for 9 yards in the first 30 minutes, when his longest run was 4 yards. He barely was used in the second half, where his longest run was 8 yards.

        The futility of the running game was never more obvious than on the team's third possession of the game when Parker carried four consecutive times and gained only 6 yards.

        It was a far cry from the often dominating running game that led the Steelers to a Super Bowl championship last season.

        At one point in the second quarter, with the Steelers operating near their goal line, Cowher inserted Verron Haynes into the game. It made no difference. Haynes carried twice for 6 yards.

        Cowher continued to show his dissatisfaction with veteran running back Duce Staley, who was deactivated before the game. Najeh Davenport, who was signed after the team's season opener against Miami, dressed instead of Staley. Davenport did not play.

        One of the concerns about the need for a solid backup to Parker was the fear he would get worn down. That was particularly true after he carried 29 times in the opener against the Miami Dolphins, a figure considered too high for someone of his size. Cowher had let it be known he did not want Parker carrying the ball that often.

        There were no concerns along those lines last night. The Jaguars dominated time of possession and Parker never had the chance to get worn down. That was particularly true in third quarter when Jacksonville took a 3-0 lead. The Steelers had only two possessions in the third quarter and Parker didn't get a carry.

        The Steelers tried to go back to the run in the fourth quarter but with no more success. Parker got the ball on the team's first possession and gained 3 yards on two carries. After an 11-yard pass to Hines Ward gave the Steelers a first down, Parker had his best run of the game, 8 yards. But on third-and-2, Roethlisberger threw incomplete and the Steelers had to punt.

        Parker never carried the ball again.

        "We had nothing in the running game," Cowher said.

        Offensive guard Alan Faneca said, "We never got in a situation where we could pound the ball. We never got in a rhythm. They were doing a good job of disguising things."

        When the Steelers fell behind, 6-0, with 6:15 remaining, Cowher, understandably, gave up on his running game and put in his third-down offense with Haynes at running back. The strategy resulted in an interception by Roethlisberger, which led to a third Jacksonville field goal.

        The Cincinnati Bengals present a less formidable rushing defense next week and perhaps Parker, who most certainly shouldn't be tired, and the rushing offense can return to form. One thing is for sure: It can't get any worse.


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        (Bob Smizik can be reached at bsmizik@post-gazette.com. )
        Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
        Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
        Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
        Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
        And life itself, rushing over me
        Life itself, the wind in black elms,
        Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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        • #34
          Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

          When teams have big effective defensive tackles and can get by without crowding the box with extra db's, Burghermeister Rothliesberger just isn't very good.

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          • #35
            Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

            That may be true, but Ben struggling doesn't translate to Steelers wins and losses.

            We had running lanes, and didn't take advantage of them. That had nothing to do with Ben.

            In the first half, we had receivers dropping balls - especially on third down - that's not really Ben's fault.

            One of the interceptions was when Holmes never even looked at the ball (nor made a break toward it). That's not Ben's fault.

            The other interception, very late in the game, the ball sailed about and Ben was about to get hit in the appendix. I wouldn't say that's because of the defensive tackles.

            We got smacked around all night, and Ben was not sharp, but QB was not really one of our problem areas. And, as usual when the Steelers lose, improved play from the quarterback is not going to make the difference. We lost because our running game only picked up 26 yards and no first downs, something that's unheard-of in the Chuck Noll/ Bill Cowher eras.
            Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
            Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
            Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
            Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
            And life itself, rushing over me
            Life itself, the wind in black elms,
            Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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            • #36
              Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

              In the playoffs last year the rush didn't really hurt the Colt's at all as Parker went for 59 yds and Bettis for 46, but Roethlisberger went for 197 yds and 2 tds because we kept bringing Doss and Sanders up.

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              • #37
                Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                Originally posted by Jay@Section19 View Post
                The other interception, very late in the game, the ball sailed about and Ben was about to get hit in the appendix.
                How could he get hit in the appendix, when he doesn't have an appendix?
                Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                • #38
                  Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                  Not sure I understand your point. We used the vertical passing game to open up our running game last January.
                  Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                  Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                  Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                  Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                  And life itself, rushing over me
                  Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                  Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

                  Comment


                  • #39
                    Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                    Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                    How could he get hit in the appendix, when he doesn't have an appendix?
                    I was trying to type "spot where he used to have an appendix" but it sounded silly.
                    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                    And life itself, rushing over me
                    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                      Originally posted by Jay@Section19 View Post
                      I was trying to type "spot where he used to have an appendix" but it sounded silly.
                      I don't know why stomach sounded silly to you, but nonetheless.
                      Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                        Maybe it was because I spelly it "tummy".
                        Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                        Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                        Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                        Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                        And life itself, rushing over me
                        Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                        Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

                        Comment


                        • #42
                          Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                          I've wondered if the shoulder injury kept Troy from picking off that pass. He certainly did not look like himself Monday night. But injuries are a big part of football, and he'll be healthy again soon.

                          In other news, while it is apparently true that a foot injury may be hampering Santonio Holmes' ability to cut and push off, there is no connection between that injury and Santonio's inability to use his brain in punt/kickoff return situation nor his ability to turn his head and see that a pass is being thrown right to him so he should try to catch it.

                          Steelers Notebook: Polamalu plays what-if game
                          Friday, September 22, 2006

                          By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

                          If Troy Polamalu had a healthy right shoulder, perhaps the Steelers would be unbeaten and not 1-1 heading into the playoff rematch Sunday with the Cincinnati Bengals.

                          If nothing else, if Polamalu had more range of motion in his arm, perhaps the Steelers would not have endured their first shutout in almost three years in Jacksonville.

                          Polamalu nearly intercepted a quick Byron Leftwich pass in the left flat Monday night when the Jaguars, leading, 3-0, had the ball at their 13. But Polamalu, a two-time Pro Bowl safety, dropped the ball, and the Jaguars went down the field and added another field goal.

                          "I reached out there with my right arm," Polamalu said. "If I would have had three or four more inches, which I probably could have if [I were] healthy ... who knows if I would have even caught the ball anyway. It's time to move on."

                          Polamalu's right shoulder was injured in the season opener against the Miami Dolphins and is listed as questionable on the injury report. He has practiced each of the past two days, however, and will play against the Bengals.

                          Coach Bill Cowher said Polamalu is not at risk of doing further damage to his shoulder by playing in games and should benefit from the open date after the game against the Bengals.

                          "The biggest thing is, I've always tried to differentiate between a guy playing hurt and a guy playing injured," Cowher said. "Someone who's injured, if [there is] risk of further damage, then we certainly weigh that. We would not subject a player to doing something that could have long-term effects.

                          "What Troy is dealing with right now is something that's going to get better with time. But he's having to play with some pain."

                          Polamalu tried to downplay the significance of the injury, but acknowledged it made it difficult to tackle Jaguars running back Fred Taylor, who had 92 yards on 22 carries against the Steelers.

                          "When you're injured, with any injury, definitely you're restricted in some way. There's a lot of people playing with pain and injuries on this team that I'm sure you guys don't even know about. And, if it were up to me, you guys wouldn't even know about this injury. But, unfortunately, it's that obvious.

                          "It's tough to let my arm hang, in general. If walking is tough, tackling Fred Taylor or any running back for that matter is always going to be tough. I'm just one of 11 guys on this defense. It doesn't matter. It's one arm of 22."

                          Foot injury hampers Holmes

                          Rookie wide receiver Santonio Holmes did not practice for the second day in a row because of inflammation on the arch of his foot and will not play against the Bengals if he doesn't practice today.

                          Cowher said Holmes does not have a stress fracture, but he is unable to cut and push off when he runs. If Holmes doesn't play, Cowher said No. 3 draft pick Willie Reid will be active for the first time this season and likely will return kickoffs and punts along with Ricardo Colclough.

                          "I can run straight ahead, but to cut side to side, that's the biggest thing," Holmes said.

                          Holmes, the team's No. 1 pick from Ohio State, said he doesn't know when he was injured against the Jaguars, though he remembers his foot getting stepped on in the game. He said his foot didn't start bothering him until Wednesday when he reported back to practice.

                          "I didn't come to the training room on Tuesday," Holmes said. "I didn't have any problems."

                          Mutual admiration society

                          Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer doesn't have a vote, but, if he did, he said Polamalu would be the NFL's defensive player of the year.

                          "In my eyes, he's the best defensive player in the game," said Palmer.

                          "He's more than just the best safety. He's the best defensive football player. He consistently makes plays. He leads that defense by example. He's a lot of fun to watch and not a lot of fun to play against."

                          Told what Palmer said, Polamalu replied, "He's probably the best offensive player in the league."

                          Polamalu and Palmer were housemates when they played together at Southern California, and they periodically talk by phone, even in the offseason. When a Pittsburgh reporter visited Palmer last month, he jokingly said, "Tell Troy to return my call."

                          "I called him to check on him a couple times this summer," Polamalu said. "I'm a hermit. The only person I talk to is my wife."
                          Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                          Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                          Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                          Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                          And life itself, rushing over me
                          Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                          Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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                          • #43
                            Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                            That article title is horrible, when the guy says this: "who knows if I would have even caught the ball anyway. It's time to move on."

                            Doesn't sound like a "what-if game," to me at all. Sounds like he was asked a what if question from a reporter wanting to play the game, and he gave a hell of an answer saying he doesn't even know if he would have gotten it anyways. Usually you see players throw in the injury excuse without prompting from a reporter.

                            Kudos to Troy.
                            Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                              Yeah, the article is horrible. The quotes from Troy, Cowher, and Palmer made it worthwhile, however. Especially Cowher's comments that seemed quite appropriate for many of the "is he hurt or injured?" discussions we've had about the Pacers in recent seasons.
                              Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                              Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                              Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                              Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                              And life itself, rushing over me
                              Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                              Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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                              • #45
                                Re: Jay's Official Super Bowl Champion Steelers thread

                                You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?

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