The Rules of Pacers Digest
Hello everyone,
Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.
A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.
Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.
Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.
Rule #1
Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:
"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"
"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"
"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"
"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"
"He/she is just delusional"
"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"
"I'm going to take a moment to point and
/ laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"
"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good?"
In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.
We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.
Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.
That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.
A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.
There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.
Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.
In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.
Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.
If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!
All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.
Rule #2
If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.
The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.
The right places to do so are:
A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.
B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.
If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.
Rule #3
If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.
When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:
A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.
B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.
To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!
Rule #4
Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.
Rule #5
When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.
An example:
If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star
Rule #6
We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.
The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.
Rule #7
Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.
It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).
We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).
However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.
Rule #8
We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.
Rule #9
Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.
Rule #10
We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.
Rule #11
Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.
A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.
Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.
Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.
Rule #1
Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:
"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"
"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"
"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"
"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"
"He/she is just delusional"
"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"
"I'm going to take a moment to point and
/ laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*""Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good?
"In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.
We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.
Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.
That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.
A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.
There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.
Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.
In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.
Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.
If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!
All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.
Rule #2
If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.
The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.
The right places to do so are:
A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.
B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.
If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.
Rule #3
If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.
When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:
A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.
B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.
To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!
Rule #4
Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.
Rule #5
When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.
An example:
If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star
Rule #6
We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.
The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.
Rule #7
Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.
It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).
We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).
However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.
Rule #8
We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.
Rule #9
Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.
Rule #10
We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.
Rule #11
Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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Re: Ignore this thread
Yes, yes, that's it, yes.
Daloi limba.
It's like a major daloi limba between having a daloi limba and not having the choice at all.Word on the street is he doesn't want your money, he only wants to please your ears...
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The Miller Time Podcast on 8 Points, 9 Seconds:
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Re: Ignore this thread
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.
If you want to be happy, practice ignoring this thread.This space for rent.Comment
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Re: Ignore this thread
http://www.wikihow.com/Ignore-People
How to Ignore People
This article is marked as a stub. You can help wikiHow by improving it.
Follow these steps if you want to ignore someone. Ignoring people can be both good and bad--it depends on the person you want to ignore. Ignoring people that wish to assist you is only harming yourself.
Steps
Think of a person you want to ignore. Focus your thoughts on all the reasons you don't want him or her as part of your life. Ignoring someone can be difficult and is the last step you should take, so your reasons must be firm.
Refrain from all communication with the person. Don't return calls, emails, text messages or letters.
Try to ignore him or her by not saying hello to him or her when you cross paths.
Manage your schedule so you don't come into contact with that person.
Change your phone number, email, and IM address, if necesary.
Enjoy the peace of knowing that person is not actively a part of your life.
Don't pay attention to the bitter remarks that the person makes.
Keep yourself busy with your own activities, maybe try to develop a new hobby just to get away from the person.
Never make eye contact with the person.
Tips
If you ever come across this person in a shop or store, pretend you don't see them; use tunnel vision. Change your walking speed, stop, and turn irrationally. If they say something to you, tell them that you are in a rush and you really must go. If all else fails, just keep quiet.
Warnings
If you decide to really ignore someone for a prolonged period, you must expect that he/she will never talk to you again and be okay with that.
Ignoring someone can cause feelings of deep animosity. Be aware that the person you're ignoring might potentially physically assault or try to harm you in response to your treatment, but most of the time if you will ignore someone it will be over. Walk away from them, do not ignore then and then try to confront them or even try to confront them at all let them come to you when they are ready again.
At some point, you might want to communicate with the person that you have decided to ignore and settle the argument. Remember this may not always be possible or reasonable and you don't have to. If it is a person that you have to work with or associate with then at some point you may have to, so be nice.
Don't fall for the other persons sweet talk. Stay strong and be confident.Comment
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Re: Ignore this thread
That's not helpful. People around here need help ignoring this THREAD, not PEOPLE.Originally posted by Gyron View PostThis space for rent.Comment
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Re: Ignore this thread
http://blogs.msdn.com/tess/archive/2...r-net-2-0.aspx
Things to ignore when debugging an ASP.NET Hang - Update for .NET 2.0
I often get questions like "what is this thread doing?". A lot of the time it is about threads that are essential to the process but completely unrelated to the problem at hand.
A while back, in the beginnings of this blog, I wrote a post about what threads you can ignore so you can focus on what is important, and according to the blog stats, it turned out to be one of the most popular posts. Since then a lot of people have wanted to see an update for 2.0.
Rather than repeating the whole post I'll just show the ones that have a new look and feel... and if you are interested in finding out a bit more about what they are, check out the old post
CLR Threads
Idle CLR Worker Thread
16 Id: efc.a00 Suspend: 1 Teb: fff88000 UnfrozenChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0219fc84 7d4d8c56 00000228 00000000 0219fcc8 ntdll!ZwWaitForSingleObject+0x150219fcf4 79e718fd 00000228 00009c40 00000000 kernel32!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0xac0219fd38 79e718c6 00000228 00009c40 00000000 mscorwks!PEImage::LoadImage+0x1990219fd88 79e7187c 00009c40 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!CLREvent::WaitEx+0x1170219fd98 79f5e51b 00009c40 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!CLREvent::Wait+0x170219fe18 79f8b1c5 001880e0 00009c40 00000000 mscorwks!ThreadpoolMgr::SafeWait+0x730219fe94 79f7997f 00000000 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!ThreadpoolMgr::WorkerThreadStart+0xf50219 ffb8 7d4dfff1 0019c440 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!ThreadpoolMgr::intermediateThreadProc+0x4 90219ffec 00000000 79f79939 0019c440 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart+0x34
Idle CLR Completion Port/IO Thread
14 Id: efc.11c8 Suspend: 1 Teb: fff8e000 UnfrozenChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0209fe7c 7d50664c 00000234 0209fee8 0209fec0 ntdll!NtRemoveIoCompletion+0x150209fea8 79f795de 00000234 0209feec 0209fee8 kernel32!GetQueuedCompletionStatus+0x290209ff14 79f7997f 00000000 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!ThreadpoolMgr::CompletionPortThreadStart+ 0x11a0209ffb8 7d4dfff1 0019c440 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!ThreadpoolMgr::intermediateThreadProc+0x4 90209ffec 00000000 79f79939 0019c440 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart+0x34
Idle CLR Gate Thread
15 Id: efc.1534 Suspend: 1 Teb: fff8b000 UnfrozenChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0211fe18 7d4d0ec5 00000000 0211fe58 00000000 ntdll!ZwDelayExecution+0x150211fe80 79f56b45 000001f4 00000000 fcffff56 kernel32!SleepEx+0x680211feb4 79f56b15 000001f4 00000000 fcffff0a mscorwks!EESleepEx+0xa30211fee8 79f405ed 000001f4 00000000 79f569e7 mscorwks!__DangerousSwitchToThread+0x700211fef4 79f569e7 000001f4 9e2c9368 000003f4 mscorwks!__SwitchToThread+0xb0211ffb8 7d4dfff1 00000000 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!ThreadpoolMgr::GateThreadStart+0xa10211ff ec 00000000 79f56952 00000000 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart+0x34
Idle GC Thread
18 Id: efc.12b8 Suspend: 1 Teb: fff82000 UnfrozenChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0257fe6c 7d4d8c56 000002dc 00000000 00000000 ntdll!ZwWaitForSingleObject+0x150257fedc 79e718fd 000002dc ffffffff 00000000 kernel32!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0xac0257ff20 79e718c6 000002dc ffffffff 00000000 mscorwks!PEImage::LoadImage+0x1990257ff70 79e7187c ffffffff 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!CLREvent::WaitEx+0x1170257ff80 7a0d6f16 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!CLREvent::Wait+0x170257ffa8 7a0d722e 00000000 fcb9fe5a 0257ffec mscorwks!SVR::gc_heap::gc_thread_function+0x2f0257 ffb8 7d4dfff1 001b20e8 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!SVR::gc_heap::gc_thread_stub+0x9b0257ffec 00000000 7a0d7192 001b20e8 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart+0x34
Idle Finalizer Thread
20 Id: efc.132c Suspend: 1 Teb: fff7c000 UnfrozenChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0267fcd0 7d4e1cda 00000002 0267fd1c 00000001 ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x150267fd78 7d4e3e16 00000002 7a398698 00000000 kernel32!WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x11a0267fd94 7a0849d8 00000002 7a398698 00000000 kernel32!WaitForMultipleObjects+0x180267fdb4 7a085307 001b0c60 0267fe6c 0267feb4 mscorwks!SVR::WaitForFinalizerEvent+0x7a0267fdc8 79ed890c 0267feb4 00000000 00000001 mscorwks!SVR::GCHeap::FinalizerThreadWorker+0x7502 67fdd8 79ed88aa 0267feb4 0267fe60 79f54f64 mscorwks!Thread::UserResumeThread+0xfb0267fe6c 79ed87d1 0267feb4 fc89ff4a 00000000 mscorwks!Thread:
oADCallBack+0x3550267fea8 79ed976c 0267feb4 00000000 001cad20 mscorwks!Thread:oADCallBack+0x5410267fed0 79ed9737 7a085292 00000008 7a0854b0 mscorwks!ManagedThreadBase_NoADTransition+0x320267 fedc 7a0854b0 7a085292 fc89fef6 00000000 mscorwks!ManagedThreadBase::FinalizerBase+0xb0267f f14 79ed8d16 00000000 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!SVR::GCHeap::FinalizerThreadStart+0xbb026 7ffb8 7d4dfff1 001b0ca8 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!Thread::intermediateThreadProc+0x490267ff ec 00000000 79ed8cd0 001b0ca8 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart+0x34
Idle CLR Debugger Thread
17 Id: efc.1964 Suspend: 1 Teb: fff85000 UnfrozenChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 022cfe34 7d4e1cda 00000003 022cfe80 00000001 ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x15022cfedc 7d4e3e16 00000003 022cff20 00000000 kernel32!WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x11a022cfef8 79f0cb1e 00000003 022cff20 00000000 kernel32!WaitForMultipleObjects+0x18022cff58 79f0ca7b fcc2fe6a 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!DebuggerRCThread::MainLoop+0xcf022cff88 79f0c9be fcc2fe5a 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!DebuggerRCThread::ThreadProc+0xca022cffb8 7d4dfff1 00000000 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!DebuggerRCThread::ThreadProcStatic+0x8202 2cffec 00000000 79f0c978 00000000 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart+0x34Idle Timer Thread
22 Id: efc.136c Suspend: 1 Teb: fff76000 UnfrozenChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0284fecc 7d4d0ec5 00000001 0284ff0c 00000000 ntdll!ZwDelayExecution+0x150284ff34 79f667c7 00002710 00000001 0284ffa4 kernel32!SleepEx+0x680284ffb0 79f66758 00000000 7d4dfff1 0219e75c mscorwks!ThreadpoolMgr::TimerThreadFire+0x6d0284ff b8 7d4dfff1 0219e75c 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!ThreadpoolMgr::TimerThreadStart+0x540284f fec 00000000 79f66702 0219e75c 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart+0x34Idle Appdomain Unload Thread
21 Id: efc.12d8 Suspend: 1 Teb: fff79000 UnfrozenChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0275fcbc 7d4d8c56 000002d0 00000000 00000000 ntdll!ZwWaitForSingleObject+0x150275fd2c 79e718fd 000002d0 ffffffff 00000000 kernel32!WaitForSingleObjectEx+0xac0275fd70 79e718c6 000002d0 ffffffff 00000000 mscorwks!PEImage::LoadImage+0x1990275fdc0 79e7187c ffffffff 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!CLREvent::WaitEx+0x1170275fdd0 79f78d81 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!CLREvent::Wait+0x170275fe94 79ed8d16 001babd0 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!AppDomain::ADUnloadThreadStart+0x2fb0275f fb8 7d4dfff1 001b8670 00000000 00000000 mscorwks!Thread::intermediateThreadProc+0x490275ff ec 00000000 79ed8cd0 001b8670 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart+0x34
So now that you know whats right, go out there and find out what's wrong
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Did that help any?Comment
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Not really. This forum is multi-threaded anyway.Originally posted by Gyron View PostThis space for rent.Comment
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Are we still supposed to ignore this thread?PACER FAN ON STRIKE!!!-The moment the Pacers fire Larry Bird I will cheer for them again.Comment
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You EEEDIOT! We've successfully ignored this thread for weeks! Now your ill-considered post has ruined our chances for success!Originally posted by DrBadd01 View Post
It was a brilliant plan, and I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids!This space for rent.Comment
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I'm kinda flattered that Anthem would crash PD just so we would ignore this thread...Originally posted by Natston;n3510291Comment
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Gyron sent me a PM saying it's okay to not ignore this thread anymore.Narf!Comment
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