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Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

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  • #61
    Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

    Jeff + AJ to Atlanta for Al, Jax + Saras to Milwaukee for Magloire. If need I'd be willing to throw in our 1st to one of the deals. I'd then use a chunk of our MLE to pickup another point guard, preferably Marcus Banks. We'd have amazing versatility. A ton of interchangable players, and great athleticism.

    I'd go with a rotation like this (minutes in parenthesis)

    Center
    Magloire (28)
    Harrison (20)

    Power Forward
    O'Neal (35)
    Harrington (10)
    Granger (3)

    Small Forwad
    Harrington (24)
    Granger (24)

    Shooting Guard
    Daniels (28)
    White (13)
    Granger (7)

    Point Guard
    Jamaal Tinsley (27)
    Banks (15)
    Daniels (6)

    Starters
    Tinsley (27) - Daniels (34) - Harrington (34) - O'Neal (35) - Magloire (28)

    Bench
    Granger (34) - Harrison (20) - Banks (15) - White (13) - Williams+LLE (Leftover Minutes, Insurance)

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    • #62
      Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

      Originally posted by Steve McQueen
      Jeff + AJ to Atlanta for Al, Jax + Saras to Milwaukee for Magloire. If need I'd be willing to throw in our 1st to one of the deals. I'd then use a chunk of our MLE to pickup another point guard, preferably Marcus Banks. We'd have amazing versatility. A ton of interchangable players, and great athleticism.

      I'd go with a rotation like this (minutes in parenthesis)

      Center
      Magloire (28)
      Harrison (20)

      Power Forward
      O'Neal (35)
      Harrington (10)
      Granger (3)

      Small Forwad
      Harrington (24)
      Granger (24)

      Shooting Guard
      Daniels (28)
      White (13)
      Granger (7)

      Point Guard
      Jamaal Tinsley (27)
      Banks (15)
      Daniels (6)

      Starters
      Tinsley (27) - Daniels (34) - Harrington (34) - O'Neal (35) - Magloire (28)

      Bench
      Granger (34) - Harrison (20) - Banks (15) - White (13) - Williams+LLE (Leftover Minutes, Insurance)
      OKAY RICK - You've been outed! Stop calling yourself Steve and admit that you do rotations based on the minutes listed on your piece of paper and not on what's actually happening in the games.

      “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

      “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird

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      • #63
        Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

        I really like Marcus Banks as a back up point gaurd. He is a very good defender and a very good athlete. I think he would fit well into the new Pacers style of play. He is still very young and has a lot of potenial. I wouldn't mind using the MLE on him.


        I like the Pacers first deal, I think we might have to throw in a draft pick to sweeten the deal to get Al. Golden State is really pushing for Al too, they have a lot of good prospects over there. I have never been a big fan of Magloire, but I still like that deal. I don't think Milwaukee would do that though. But who really knows?


        What about the Stro Show anyone? I think he can be had for cheap. He got dealt back to Memphis and doesn't want to play for them again. He is extremely athletic and can rebound and block shots pretty well. He isn't much of a shooter though. But if he could be had at the right price I love to have him here in Indy.

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        • #64
          Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

          Originally posted by Jermaniac
          Do you think anything Pacers try to do with make them better. I swear to God I have been on this site for 2-3 years and I have never ever seen you be happy about something.
          Uh yes? I loved the Croshere trade, I've liked the majority of what we've done. I just don't like some players on this team?

          Did I mention I hate the Pacers?
          Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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          • #65
            Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

            NO BONZI WELLS!!??!?!?!?!

            I think I'm going to throw a small party. Actually, this calls for dancing fruit.



            I'm still not excited about Al; I'd rather have Danny start sooner than later. Mags on the other hand....
            It's a new day for Pacers Basketball.

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            • #66
              Re: Bird shoots down the rumor of Foster for Bonzi

              Originally posted by Kegboy
              (Let me put my Bball hat on...)

              Okay, could it be that Bird not only let this Bonzi stuff leak to make JO happy, but also to make the prospect of getting Al instead look better?
              No. After floating the rumor Bird realized that if he let the trade go through he'd go back to the top of my most disliked list. He decided he likes me not hating him so much.

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              • #67
                Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

                i knew this rumor was a load of crap, theres no way bonzi would leave because he knows artest said he would tie him up and beat him to death.

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                • #68
                  Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

                  I bet Bonzi is scared of, I wont fight no body over the size of 6-2

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                  • #69
                    Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

                    Wow, Foster and AJ for Harrington. WTF, its great talent wise but in case nobody else noticed, we are extremely thin with reliable players at C and PG.

                    Where as we have a couple guys who can play PF, and a ton who can play SF.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

                      Originally posted by Destined4Greatness
                      Wow, Foster and AJ for Harrington. WTF, its great talent wise but in case nobody else noticed, we are extremely thin with reliable players at C and PG.

                      Where as we have a couple guys who can play PF, and a ton who can play SF.
                      I think TPTB haved cooked up this crazy scheme called planning , in which they pretty much have an Idea if X players are traded, Y move will be made or already has been made etc.

                      Call me nutty but I think I am on to something.

                      I think Sarunas, Tinsley, White, Daniels, possibly Greene and the likes just might be able to pick up some of the slack from AJ.

                      Not to mention others moves that are most likely already planned to aquire veteran help if needed at that spot. You can have your Cake and Eat it too. Now Eating your cake and then having it , that's quite a feat.

                      I am genuinely interested though to see which exact players or moves you would actually be in favor of ?

                      Why Not Us ?

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                      • #71
                        Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

                        Originally posted by Frank Slade
                        I think TPTB haved cooked up this crazy scheme called planning , in which they pretty much have an Idea if X players are traded, Y move will be made or already has been made etc.

                        Call me nutty but I think I am on to something.

                        I think Sarunas, Tinsley, White, Daniels, possibly Greene and the likes just might be able to pick up some of the slack from AJ.

                        Not to mention others moves that are most likely already planned to aquire veteran help if needed at that spot. You can have your Cake and Eat it too. Now Eating your cake and then having it , that's quite a feat.
                        "George's athleticism is bananas!" - Marc J. Spears

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                        • #72
                          Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

                          Originally posted by Frank Slade
                          I think TPTB haved cooked up this crazy scheme called planning , in which they pretty much have an Idea if X players are traded, Y move will be made or already has been made etc.

                          Call me nutty but I think I am on to something.

                          I think Sarunas, Tinsley, White, Daniels, possibly Greene and the likes just might be able to pick up some of the slack from AJ.

                          Not to mention others moves that are most likely already planned to aquire veteran help if needed at that spot. You can have your Cake and Eat it too. Now Eating your cake and then having it , that's quite a feat.

                          I am genuinely interested though to see which exact players or moves you would actually be in favor of ?
                          Are you trying to be an ***?

                          Sarunas sucks
                          Tinsley will be injured
                          White is a rookie
                          Daniels hasn't played real minutes at Point in a while
                          Greene was let go by Boston for a reason

                          AJ has been our only consistent PG. And our Rebounding is bad enough. And i doubt we can get a better rebounder than Foster. The fact is that besides the organization trying to win back the business execs that go to games and talk on their cell phones. This move doesn't do a whole lot for the team.

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                          • #73
                            Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

                            Originally posted by Destined4Greatness
                            Are you trying to be an ***?

                            Sarunas sucks
                            Tinsley will be injured
                            White is a rookie
                            Daniels hasn't played real minutes at Point in a while
                            Greene was let go by Boston for a reason

                            AJ has been our only consistent PG. And our Rebounding is bad enough. And i doubt we can get a better rebounder than Foster. The fact is that besides the organization trying to win back the business execs that go to games and talk on their cell phones. This move doesn't do a whole lot for the team.
                            Man, you must be exhausting in person.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Bird shoots down the rumor of Foster for Bonzi

                              Originally posted by Jay Ohh
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                              • #75
                                Re: Mike Wells: no truth to the Bonzi Wells rumors

                                Originally posted by Destined4Greatness
                                Are you trying to act like I have been lately?

                                Sarunas sucks( His rookie year in the NBA tells me all I need to know about the guy.)

                                Tinsley will be injured ( And there is no way Indiana could ever plan for an unexpected event like that to happen, they will never see it coming)

                                White is a rookie, Which means he will play 0 minutes a game and will not help out at all in the backcourt.

                                Daniels hasn't played real minutes at Point in a while. ( He's probably washed up , he might have even forgot how to dribble.)

                                Greene was let go by Boston for a reason (There is no way in Hell he will be able to at least fill Eddie's shoes.)


                                AJ has been our only consistent (shooting) PG and is a perfect fit in our new offsense. Not Trading AJ at his highest Trade Value is certainly the way to go, look how well it's worked for us in the past with other players !

                                Instead we need to trade the players that had an off season , since those are the one's every team is fighting over.

                                And our Rebounding is bad enough. And i doubt we can get a better rebounder than Foster. ( Not only that but between Granger, Williams Harrington and Harrison they will be lucky to even grab 1 rebound the entire game.)

                                The fact is that besides the organization trying to win back the business execs that go to games and talk on their cell phones.

                                (Since this section of Folks plunk down money for Season Tix to impress Clients and be seen at the game , they are definitely the most important, and most frugal. And all Pro Franchises number one Goal is to do only trades that appease this kind of Fan.)

                                This move to aquire a ("Fan Favortie "26 year old Athletic SF/PF who just happens to be your "Franchise Players" Best Friend) doesn't do a whole lot for the team or it's Chemistry We are Way better off staying pat
                                Well, I must admit after looking at your reasoning, I see your point in fact I added my comments to this in accordance to your thinking.

                                I am on board with you now.

                                Thanks for the Wake up call. Together we will shoot any and all trade proposals down. I think the best way to improve the the team is to Beyotch and moan no matter the reasoning.

                                I find that really gets the job done.

                                P.S. Ligthen up Dude... Life is Short .. Enjoy it

                                Why Not Us ?

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