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    I think he needs a coach to enforce discipline.

    Rick had it right - with David anyway. He got benched as soon as he ever did anything.

    I don't think the lesson sinks in, though, when Jack acts like an idiot all the time and is never punished. I think Rick's disciplinary methods may have become a joke to at least some of the team... maybe part of the reason why he lost the team.
    I agree, but if Rick picked up a tec

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    I'd love to have DeSagana Diop. Someone who is available if and when we do need a big body, but someone who doesn't expect to play much. Pollard would be fine also if he could play 70 games per year plus playoffs.

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    I'd love to have DeSagana Diop. Someone who is available if and when we do need a big body, but someone who doesn't expect to play much. Pollard would be fine also if he could play 70 games per year plus playoffs.
    We could have had Diop back when everyone called him "worthless"
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    Let me ask a question that is related to this topic.

    Why are the Mavs so effective guarding Shaq and the Heat, (at least through the first two games)

    The Mavs are obviously doing a hell of a job, but come on, Shaq is finished. If the Mavs would have tried this little strategy 5 years ago against Shaq, he would have rolled over them like a freight train.

    Shaq's lack of fundamental skills and lack of an ability to split the defense are why he is playing like garbage. From now on in his career, any team with big bodies is going to double the hell out of him. He won't be able to do anything about it. What you have seen against Dallas is just a preview of what will happen to him the rest of his career.

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    Well hopefully this answers your question....

    He's getting waived by Toronto
    That's why I said back-up. He's also a second year player next year, and maybe has potential to be a good back-up. I didn't know, that's why I put it out there. I guess it's common sense, though.

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    What comments by Pollard suggest he's not coming back?
    He said something about this being the most messed team he's ever played for, which to me is a good indication that he has not enjoyed his time here, which to me is an indication that he won't be back. It's an assumption, but, I think it's an educated guess.
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    He said something about this being the most messed team he's ever played for, which to me is a good indication that he has not enjoyed his time here, which to me is an indication that he won't be back. It's an assumption, but, I think it's an educated guess.

    He's also said he loves the city, and doesn't want to pick up and move again for his kids' sake.

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    I thought his family was in Kansas, and that he just rented a place in whatever city he was playing during the season.
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    I thought his family was in Kansas, and that he just rented a place in whatever city he was playing during the season.

    Scot, his wife, and their two or three kids live in the Indianapolis area. One of the local TV stations showed him and his family out trick or treating two years ago. Not sure exactly where they live, but it was either Carmel or Fishers area.

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    Scot, his wife, and their two or three kids live in the Indianapolis area. One of the local TV stations showed him and his family out trick or treating two years ago. Not sure exactly where they live, but it was either Carmel or Fishers area.
    What was Scot's costume?

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    Scot was dressed like an old man: Fake Santa-like beard, beer gut, ratty t-shirt and shorts, and I think a cane.

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    What was Scot's costume?

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    He went as Brad Miller.

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    He went as Brad Miller.

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    I agree with Conrad, even if we lose Pollard, we're still better off then most teams at center. In other words, we don't need to focus on upgrading at the center position. We have much bigger needs in the front court.

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    I agree with Conrad, even if we lose Pollard, we're still better off then most teams at center. In other words, we don't need to focus on upgrading at the center position. We have much bigger needs in the front court.
    You are sooooo wrong. We BADLY need a center who can score and at least throw a body in the middle on defense. We ALMOST as badly need a consistent and quick SG. And thirdly, we need a quick, penetrating PG.

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    I agree with Conrad, even if we lose Pollard, we're still better off then most teams at center. In other words, we don't need to focus on upgrading at the center position. We have much bigger needs in the front court.
    True. But JO doesn't want to play C anymore, he wants someone else to do the physical dirty work so that his body holds up better. And from the former "leader" of the "JO is our C" bandwagon, I agree with JO on this. So it doesn't matter anymore that JO is one of the best C's in the East.

    Surely you weren't talking about Foster? Because Foster can't hit the broad side of a barn and because Foster can't really 'body up' at the defensive end, upgrading at C is vital to the Pacers' sucess next season.

    Unfortunately, I don't think David is ready. Thanks to Rick's win-now mentality, he's still a rookie in terms of game experience (and he desperately needs a big-man coach.)
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    True. But JO doesn't want to play C anymore, he wants someone else to do the physical dirty work so that his body holds up better. And from the former "leader" of the "JO is our C" bandwagon, I agree with JO on this. So it doesn't matter anymore that JO is one of the best C's in the East.

    Surely you weren't talking about Foster? Because Foster can't hit the broad side of a barn and because Foster can't really 'body up' at the defensive end, upgrading at C is vital to the Pacers' sucess next season.

    Unfortunately, I don't think David is ready. Thanks to Rick's win-now mentality, he's still a rookie in terms of game experience (and he desperately needs a big-man coach.)
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    Here is who I think the Pacers should look into...Primoz Brezec.

    He has done a nice job for the Bobcats. He won't be great, he comes with his faults, but he gives us offense, and no one could complain about him missing an 12 footer.

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    That's why I said back-up. He's also a second year player next year, and maybe has potential to be a good back-up. I didn't know, that's why I put it out there. I guess it's common sense, though.



    He said something about this being the most messed team he's ever played for, which to me is a good indication that he has not enjoyed his time here, which to me is an indication that he won't be back. It's an assumption, but, I think it's an educated guess.
    On Whaley, he's not being released due to his ability to play basketball, as I understand. From what I hear, he's a major off-court distraction.

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    Surely you weren't talking about Foster? Because Foster can't hit the broad side of a barn and because Foster can't really 'body up' at the defensive end, upgrading at C is vital to the Pacers' sucess next season.
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    Foster, with Harrison backing him up, would be better then what most teams have. Yes Foster did suffer from some injuries last year, but nothing that should repeat itself. Most teams don't even have a big physical center that you need the banger down low, and Foster plays D better on the Tim Duncan type players then any center we could get. You won't find a better rebounder either, so yes I'm speaking of Foster. There are only a few realy good centers in the league, and we can't afford any of them. The big physical center that can play great post D, score, and rebound just isn't out there. We need to address the chemistry issue by moving Jax, and Tinsley a lot worse then we do the center position.

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    Because most teams don't have a "C", having a legit "C" (such as Harrison if he had actually recieved two years worth of experience and coaching by now) gives us a huge advantage. We can play the game the way God intended for it to be played and force opponents to try to match up to our advantage.

    And Foster has had a recurring hip injury. Frankly, I don't expect him to ever revert to his 2003-04 form because I think he has lost some of his explosiveness. And even then, JO was breaking down from playing alongside him.
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    He's also said he loves the city, and doesn't want to pick up and move again for his kids' sake.
    Oh, I didn't hear that. What do I know?
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    Foster is a big part of the problem, and he's not part of the solution. And that's a shame because he is likeable as a player and as a person. Well, except when you pass him the ball, then he just plain sucks and I'm tired of watching this team play 4-on-five.
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    Here is who I think the Pacers should look into...Primoz Brezec.
    Why?!? Anyway, I'm sure they are not just going to give him away for our garbage.
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