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    Default Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    Just pure speculation here but thought I would post it...


    What now for O’Neal, Adelman?

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    It’s no secret the Trail Blazers need a cornerstone player — a Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett type — to make a firm step toward respectability in the near future.
    The first name that comes to mind is Jermaine O’Neal, who just finished a discouraging season with Indiana.
    O’Neal, who spent his first four seasons in Portland, is a five-time All-Star and a 10-year veteran, yet he doesn’t turn 28 until October. He is one of the premier big men in the game, a solid citizen — the NBA’s 2004 Magic Johnson Award winner — and a popular figure in the City of Roses.
    He also is a costly commodity. After making $16.425 million this season, ninth-highest among NBA players, he is due $82.2 million over the next four years. Plus, there is concern about his health, coming off two injury-plagued seasons.
    Portland could package Zach Randolph, its first pick in the upcoming draft and another player or two to make a trade work under salary-cap restrictions. But Pacer President Larry Bird says he has no intention of trading O’Neal, though he stops short of declaring he won’t.
    And a source close to O’Neal says he has no interest in returning to the Blazers.
    “I love being (in Indianapolis),” O’Neal tells The Indianapolis Star. “I’m not concerned (about a trade), because if they ever reach the point where they want to trade me, I’m 27 … longevity is everything, and I haven’t reached my peak yet. This trade talk came up since we struggled last season. People want to take shots at you when things aren’t going well. But that’s fine; my skin is thick.”

    • The announcement out of Sacramento about Rick Adelman’s firing as coach said “all parties agreed it was best (for Adelman) to part ways and move on.”
    Untrue, Adelman says.
    “That’s not the way it went down,” the former Trail Blazer boss says. “I was willing to come back, or at least talk to (co-owners Gavin and Joe Maloof) about it. But it was decided before then.”
    Adelman had allowed himself to think a second-half surge that got the Kings into the playoffs for their eighth straight season under his watch — and a competitive first-round loss against defending champion San Antonio — might save his job.
    “I knew (dismissal) could happen,” Adelman says. “But the way we finished the season, I thought there was a good chance maybe things would work out.
    “It’s their prerogative, but I don’t know what else we could have done to beat the Spurs. If that’s the reason I was let go, maybe it’s best I do leave.”
    Some wonder if Geoff Petrie, the Sacramento president of basketball operations whose relationship with Adelman goes back to the first Blazer season when they were roommates, had undercut his old friend. Adelman says Petrie’s hands were tied.
    “It came down to what (the Maloofs) wanted,” Adelman says.
    Adelman, who turns 60 next month, isn’t sure what’s on the horizon. He and wife Mary Kay bought a house in Portland last year; they intend to retire there. Four of his six children — Kathy, Laura, David and Caitlin — live in Portland. Son R.J. was a scout for the Kings, and the youngest, Patrick, is a junior in high school in Sacramento.
    “We might stay here, or we might move up to Portland after the school year,” says Adelman, who owns a career coaching record of 752-481 in the regular season and 70-68 in the playoffs and will get another NBA head-coaching opportunity at some point. “We’ll talk things through and make a decision in the next couple of weeks.”
    • The Maloofs probably will look for a sexy hire, à la Phil Jackson. They could wind up with San Antonio assistant P.J. Carlesimo, which would be fitting. Carlesimo followed Adelman as coach at both Portland and Golden State.
    “Call the Maloofs and tell them that, will you?” Carlesimo jokes.
    As of the weekend, neither Carlesimo nor Terry Porter had been contacted by the Kings about the coaching job. Both are interested.
    “I would be, for sure,” Carlesimo says. “The owners want to win, Geoff knows what he’s doing, and it’s a good homecourt. There are a couple of potential issues there that are questionable, but as NBA head jobs go, it’s a good one.”
    For the record, Porter says he is unsure of his interest in the Sacramento job. But come on. Anybody who thinks he would, or should, turn down that opportunity in deference to his role with the Portland group trying to position itself to buy the Blazers — long odds, indeed — is kidding himself.

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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    Keep wishing Portland...keep wishing...

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    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
    Incoming
    Darius Miles
    6-9 SF from East St. Louis (HS)
    14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 32.2 minutes
    Brian Skinner
    6-9 PF from Baylor
    2.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.6 minutes
    Martell Webster
    6-7 SF from Seattle Prep (HS)
    6.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.5 minutes
    Sebastian Telfair
    6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
    9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +12.9 ppg, +2.6 rpg, and +3.9 apg.

    Portland Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Darius Miles
    6-9 SF from East St. Louis (HS)
    14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 32.2 minutes
    Brian Skinner
    6-9 PF from Baylor
    2.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.6 minutes
    Martell Webster
    6-7 SF from Seattle Prep (HS)
    6.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.5 minutes
    Sebastian Telfair
    6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
    9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes
    Incoming
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -12.9 ppg, -2.6 rpg, and -3.9 apg.
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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    The best package they could offer would be Martell Webster, Sebastian Telfair or Jarret Jack and the first rounder.

    Whoops, Skaut beat me to it.

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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    I want no part of Zach or Miles.

    Webster, Telfair, Skinner, and a lottery pick is tempting but I still think I'd pass.
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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    Can you imagine just how dumb our team would be with Miles and SJax together?

    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-3 PG from Iowa State
    9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
    Incoming
    Jarrett Jack
    6-3 PG from Georgia Tech
    6.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.2 minutes
    Travis Outlaw
    6-9 SF from Starkville (HS)
    5.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 16.7 minutes
    Sebastian Telfair
    6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
    9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes
    Martell Webster
    6-7 SF from Seattle Prep (HS)
    6.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.5 minutes
    Brian Skinner
    6-9 PF from Baylor
    2.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.6 minutes
    Theo Ratliff
    6-10 C from Wyoming
    4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +7.0 ppg, +4.7 rpg, and +0.9 apg.

    Portland Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jarrett Jack
    6-3 PG from Georgia Tech
    6.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.2 minutes
    Travis Outlaw
    6-9 SF from Starkville (HS)
    5.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 16.7 minutes
    Sebastian Telfair
    6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
    9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes
    Martell Webster
    6-7 SF from Seattle Prep (HS)
    6.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.5 minutes
    Brian Skinner
    6-9 PF from Baylor
    2.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.6 minutes
    Theo Ratliff
    6-10 C from Wyoming
    4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes
    Incoming
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-3 PG from Iowa State
    9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
    20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -7.0 ppg, -4.7 rpg, and -0.9 apg.


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    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-3 PG from Iowa State
    9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes
    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes

    Incoming
    Theo Ratliff
    6-10 C from Wyoming
    4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes
    Jarrett Jack
    6-3 PG from Georgia Tech
    6.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.2 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -3.6 ppg, -5.2 rpg, and -2.5 apg.


    Portland Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Theo Ratliff
    6-10 C from Wyoming
    4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes
    Jarrett Jack
    6-3 PG from Georgia Tech
    6.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.2 minutes

    Incoming
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-3 PG from Iowa State
    9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes
    Jeff Foster
    6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
    5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +3.6 ppg, +5.2 rpg, and +2.5 apg.

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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    Let's trade one Big Somebody for Nobody, Nobody's Brother, Nobody's Cousin, Nobody's Auntie and Nobody's Uncle, who have all proven that when they play together they win absolutely NOTHING.

    There's a whole forum for trade proposals, guys.

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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    The Maloofs probably will look for a sexy hire, à la Phil Jackson. They could wind up with San Antonio assistant P.J. Carlesimo, which would be fitting. Carlesimo followed Adelman as coach at both Portland and Golden State.
    Anyone else think Artest would go Spreewell on Carlesimo?
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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    Okay, total fantasy league type scenario, I admit, but good gravy, if I could do that in real life...

    Then you follow that blockbuster with

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Austin Croshere
    6-10 PF from Providence
    8.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22.9 minutes
    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
    Anthony Johnson
    6-3 PG from Charleston
    9.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 4.3 apg in 26.4 minutes
    David Harrison
    7-0 C from Colorado
    5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.4 minutes
    Incoming
    Tracy McGrady
    6-8 SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS)
    24.4 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 4.8 apg in 37.1 minutes















    End result:

    Point Guard

    Shooting Guard

    Small Forward

    Power Forward

    Center



































    Tracey McGrady

    Martell Webster

























    Granger
























































    See!! I can put nup crazy trades with the best of them!!




    (Could you imagine how freaked out the league would be? What's funny, is that I could see a team like that being pretty effective)
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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    Where did Garnett come from?
    I was ready for Josh Smith to go to Indiana, but he went to the NBA. I am ready for him to come to Indiana once again.

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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

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    Where did Garnett come from?
    Farragut Academy HS (IL)

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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    lol, Cro, Jax, AJ, and DH for McGrady? only if he got healthier maybe. btw, don't telfair and jack not like each other? or am i wrong?

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    Default Re: Portland Tribune} What now for (Jermaine)O’Neal, Adelman?

    Getting T-Mac is no better than picking up Steve Francis in my opinion. Neither one has shown that they can make their team better. And Theo Ratliff? Good player, but you all have seen his contract... right? Hell, I had a Dynasty Mode in NBA Live 06 going with the Blazers and I dumped him because of that contract... of course, the Knicks took him, and I LOL'ed

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