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    Just to throw my two cents out there I do not like what I am hearing about Mardy Collins. He has had bad workouts so far and does not seem to be impressing. I liked him a lot a couple of weeks ago but my feelings have soured a bit and I do not think I would be happy taking him over Rondo or Lowry.

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    Wow.

    I'm getting excited for the draft.
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    i'd love Lowry, but there's talk that he thinking of going back to college

    nbadraft.net doesnt even have him in their mock draft anymore

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    It's pretty unfortunate that Marcus Williams is the only legit PG in this draft, IMO. Everyone else has a glaring weakness, whether it be shooting, quickness or size. I know we need help there, but I just don't think Lowry, Collins, Farmer or Rondo are going to be anything better than average pros. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd rather take the best player available than take a flyer on any marginal point guard, we already have a bunch of those.

    I'd much rather have Hilton Armstrong, Shannon Brown, Ager or Douby instead.
    None of those guys are going to come in and play ahead of people we already have.
    We have a GLARING deficiency in stopping penetration at the point of attack. A Rondo would fix that immediately, in spot duty anyway.

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    None of those guys are going to come in and play ahead of people we already have.
    We have a GLARING deficiency in stopping penetration at the point of attack. A Rondo would fix that immediately, in spot duty anyway.
    rondo couldn't stop vanderbilt's guards. he couldn't guard the perimeter at all against TN. no chance that he is an immediate fix, even in spot duty.

    while i kind of get the notion that kentucky held him back, i would argue that only applied offensively. his d still needs work.

    at the 17 spot, i don't know if a lockdown PG defender is going to be available. i think the most glaring need for the pacers is an identity, but someone to stop other PGs wouldn't be a bad start.

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    rondo couldn't stop vanderbilt's guards. he couldn't guard the perimeter at all against TN. no chance that he is an immediate fix, even in spot duty.

    while i kind of get the notion that kentucky held him back, i would argue that only applied offensively. his d still needs work.

    at the 17 spot, i don't know if a lockdown PG defender is going to be available. i think the most glaring need for the pacers is an identity, but someone to stop other PGs wouldn't be a bad start.
    Mardy Collins will likely be available at the 17th spot...and he's a solid ( if not above average ) defending PG that can defend the 1-2 spots.

    The problem is that he's been falling in the Draft due to poor workouts.

    I would still take him over any other PG....mainly cuz of his height, defense and PG skills.....he's just not that athletic or is much of a scorer.
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    It's pretty unfortunate that Marcus Williams is the only legit PG in this draft, IMO. Everyone else has a glaring weakness, whether it be shooting, quickness or size. I know we need help there, but I just don't think Lowry, Collins, Farmer or Rondo are going to be anything better than average pros. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd rather take the best player available than take a flyer on any marginal point guard, we already have a bunch of those.

    I'd much rather have Hilton Armstrong, Shannon Brown, Ager or Douby instead.
    so...what you are saying is you enjoy smallish two guards that can score, but will be "tweeners" pushed into "combo" guards in the pros?

    because douby and brown aren't points. those guys are great college scorers, and great college two guards who can handle the ball a little, but they aren't pro PGs. i know people are saying they and guillermo diaz are points, but to me, these guys are just bobby jackson sorts of guys. fast, some scoring, durability issues playing bigger twos, not enough floor vision to play the one.

    i agree with you on collins and rondo, i don't see them being better than average, and really, don't see collins sticking in the league. i tend to sort of agree on lowry and farmar. but at least those are guys that the light could turn on for, but i still think career back- ups.

    at the 17 slot, i get a feeling that the pacers will go swingman, not pg though.

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    Mardy Collins will likely be available at the 17th spot...and he's a solid ( if not above average ) defending PG that can defend the 1-2 spots.

    The problem is that he's been falling in the Draft due to poor workouts.

    I would still take him over any other PG....mainly cuz of his height, defense and PG skills.....he's just not that athletic or is much of a scorer.
    PG skills...the temple offense looked like mud. i know the system for the owl's has been bad since 1988 or so, but, what does this guy have that lynn greer didn't? i see him playing overseas or dev league.

    i agree with you for sure that a bigger guard would be nice though. especially one that can also run the offense.

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    first off....we all knock JJ's defense, but he can shoot....do we need to look up in the rafters of conseco? well, if you do you will see a #31. not the most athletic or a defensive stopper, granted he is about 4 inches taller than reddick. my point is, dont shy away from a guy that "can just shoot"

    and there is no second point, i just thought that was a good opening

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    I'd say if JJ is avaliable, we should get him.
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    We ARE going to re-sign Peja. Why should we add a second shooter in Reddick? One that doesn't do much more then scoring.
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    Morrison sounds unbelievable. 82% from NBA three range??? Amazing...this kid is gonna be something special
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    In the latest CollegeHoops.net mock, Aldridge has fallen to 5th!

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    2006 FIRST ROUND

    1 Toronto Andrea Bargnani
    2 Chicago Tyrus Thomas
    3 Charlotte Adam Morrison
    4 Portland Brandon Roy
    5 Atlanta LaMarcus Aldridge
    6 Minnesota Rudy Gay
    7 Boston Randy Foye
    8 Houston Marcus Williams
    9 Golden St Patrick O'Bryant
    10 Seattle Shelden Williams
    11 Orlando JJ Redick
    12 New O/OKC Rodney Carney
    13 Philadelphia Cedric Simmons
    14 Utah Ronnie Brewer
    15 New O/OKC Tiago Splitter***
    16 Chicago Quincy Douby
    17 Indiana Rajon Rondo
    18 Washington Hilton Armstrong
    19 Sacramento Guillermo Diaz
    20 New York Shawne Williams
    21 Phoenix Mardy Collins
    22 New Jersey Jordan Farmar
    23 New Jersey Aaron Gray
    24 Memphis Mouhamed Saer Sene
    25 Cleveland Sergio Rodriguez
    26 LA Lakers Kyle Lowry
    27 Phoenix Shannon Brown
    28 Dallas Marcus Vinicius
    29 New York Maurice Ager
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    i think when the pick actually happens, we are all gonna sit up in our chairs with complete surprise.

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    Tyrus Thomas will be good. I think Aldrige is the bigger bust.
    Are you kidding? Aldridge is the best post player in the draft right now and in the future. He isn't going to be anything really amazing but he will be a quality player for sure.

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    i think when the pick actually happens, we are all gonna sit up in our chairs with complete surprise.
    Hopefully it will be a good surprise.

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    I'd say if JJ is avaliable, we should get him.
    Why? I would love to see you explain why we should pick him over say Mardy Collins,Kyle Lowry,Farmar,Fernandez,Shawne Williams?

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    I would much rather get the spanish sg than JJ.

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    Are you kidding? Aldridge is the best post player in the draft right now and in the future. He isn't going to be anything really amazing but he will be a quality player for sure.
    I said that thing about Thomas maybe a month ago, I'm not as high on him now. However, I still maintain he has greater potential than LA.

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    I would much rather get the spanish sg than JJ.
    how often have you seen him play?

    you can not get all hot and bothered about a player that you are reading assessments on. seeing is believing. Skita read like the second coming of Bird in his assessments, but seeing him play you realize he is years away from contributing.

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    Anyone remember Bird trying to trade up and everyone thought he wanted
    Luke Jackson but the player he REALLY wanted was Ben Gordon.
    I would not be surprised to see Bird try and move up. He is still
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    Absolutely. One thing is for certain in this draft (and any draft for that matter)...whoever DW or LB mention by name that "they have their eye on" is for certain NOT who they have their eye on.

    Given the weakness of this draft, however, and the absence of any certain star, I would be surprised if the Pacers move up unless it involved ditching sJax, tins, or croshere.

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    In the latest CollegeHoops.net mock, Aldridge has fallen to 5th!

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    2006 FIRST ROUND

    1 Toronto Andrea Bargnani
    2 Chicago Tyrus Thomas
    I understand that Tyrus Thomas has potential....but can someone explain to me why the Bulls would go with him instead of Aldridge?

    I'm not saying that Thomas doesn't have potential or even that he will likely be the better player in the end.....I'm just thinking that the Bulls need a guy to complement Tyson Chandler's "more defensive then offensive" game with a very solid Low-Post scoring/rebounding PF that can immediately come in and contribute. They are on the brink of becoming a likely "2nd round" playoff team in the East and need to win now.
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    Workout reports say that Tyrus Thomas has shown a much better offensive game than expected, routinely making midrange shots and debunking the early assessment that he can only run, jump, block shots, and dunk.

    If that is true, then he bypasses Aldridge IMO.
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