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    When did I say you couldnt?

    But if you think it is with Peja, then I really feel sorry for you.

    Now that I would have a problem with the Wizards sucking, again...............
    I dont think we could do it with ONLY him, i'd also like to see us dump Thomas, and Haywoods contracts and sign Nene or K-Mart. Honestly the Wizards and Pacers have the same problem. The lack of a big man. Only the Wizards actually have a dominant perimeter player!

    BTW - Can me and VA make a late entrance for Best Couple? lol

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    Just for kicks, what kind of deal do you think the Wiz would be willing to make?

    Peja for, say, A.D and Brenden Haywood?

    Man, I would love that.

    I wanted haywood when he came out of UNC......

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    Here is my one and only offer.

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Peja Stojakovic
    6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
    18.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 36.7 minutes
    Incoming
    Jarvis Hayes
    6-8 SF from Georgia
    9.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 24.6 minutes
    Etan Thomas
    6-10 PF from Syracuse
    4.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -4.2 ppg, +1.7 rpg, and -0.4 apg.

    Washington Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jarvis Hayes
    6-8 SF from Georgia
    9.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 24.6 minutes
    Etan Thomas
    6-10 PF from Syracuse
    4.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Peja Stojakovic
    6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
    18.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 36.7 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +4.2 ppg, -1.7 rpg, and +0.4 apg.


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    I dont think we could do it with ONLY him, i'd also like to see us dump Thomas, and Haywoods contracts and sign Nene or K-Mart. Honestly the Wizards and Pacers have the same problem. The lack of a big man. Only the Wizards actually have a dominant perimeter player!

    BTW - Can me and VA make a late entrance for Best Couple? lol
    I am trying to break the stigma of me and btown, so no, I refuse to have any more couples.

    Do you seriously want K-Mart? Thats just plain crazy. the man is nothing but a cancer, and J-Kidd made him look better then he is.

    The Wizards and the Pacers dont have the same problem. We need class and leadership, along with a perimiter presence.

    JO is dominant, just not in the 4th quarter.............

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    ha, your funny.

    jarvas and thomas for Peja.


    ha. NEXT!

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    First of all Thomas would be better than any big man you have except for JO. econd of all he'd be the best back to the basket player. Now on to the leadership thing - the team has leadership, his name is Rick Carlisle, however the elementary school injuries an darguments between players cancels out that leadership. Why trash ur teammates in the media? WHY???? You gor rid of Ron good - i'll take him over any of the other players in your locker room. The Pacers need to stop blaming other things such as the refs, bad calls, or the NBA doesn't like us conspiracy (nto so much the Pacers with that one, but this board). Donnie and Larry need to start from scratch. The one keepable player = Eddie Gill!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertmto
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    Now on to the leadership thing - the team has leadership, his name is Rick Carlisle,
    Did you just say "leadership" in the same sentence with the man who has lost this team. Man, you made a funny. Good one!

    however the elementary school injuries an darguments between players cancels out that leadership.
    Why trash ur teammates in the media? WHY????
    Like I said, we lack class.

    You gor rid of Ron good - i'll take him over any of the other players in your locker room. The Pacers need to stop blaming other things such as the refs, bad calls, or the NBA doesn't like us conspiracy (nto so much the Pacers with that one, but this board).
    You have got to be kidding me.
    Donnie and Larry need to start from scratch. The one keepable player = Eddie Gill!!!
    You made another funny.

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    econd of all he'd be the best back to the basket player.
    The **** outta here,just because Jermaine knows how to hit a jumpshot doesnt mean he cant back a player down.

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    I'm done here.

    I just re-read this thread, and quote of the year for 2007 is right here.

    This man seriously said Artest was the most classy player we had.

    I mean, who doesnt want a guy that skips team meetings, takes his own private jet, and requests time off to work on "his cd". Not even mentioning his constant suspensions.

    Pss, if thats not class then I dont know what is!

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    Carlisle lost his team because the Pacers play liek a highschool team. Everyone wants to be the star. That is not a coachable team. And are you saying Ediie Gill isn't the one bright spot? Granger is also keepable. NEways...JO is soft! He hits jumpers because he's scared to bang bodies day in and day out. Etan Thomas would help the Pacers tremendously.

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    I'm done here.

    I just re-read this thread, and quote of the year for 2007 is right here.

    This man seriously said Artest was the most classy player we had.

    I mean, who doesnt want a guy that skips team meetings, takes his own private jet, and requests time off to work on "his cd". Not even mentioning his constant suspensions.

    Pss, if thats not class then I dont know what is!
    I never once said he was the classiest. I said he was the best and i would take him over any others on the team.

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    Like the Washington Post says, "If you dont get it, you dont get it"!

    RC lost his team because managment wouldnt cut ties with the cancer, and now all of our organs are damaged (thanks Jay!)

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    I never once said he was the classiest. I said he was the best and i would take him over any others on the team.
    And your team would fall right down the gutter, just like we did.

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    And your team would fall right down the gutter, just like we did.
    So how do u explain the sudden resurgence of the Kings? He didn't damage them, I believe it was the reuniting of he and BMill, but it could be the management.

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    So how do u explain the sudden resurgence of the Kings? He didn't damage them, I believe it was the reuniting of he and BMill, but it could be the management.
    First of all, he is on his honeymoon.

    But that isnt saying much, since he was suspended during the playoffs.

    But hey thats not damaging them at all.

    come back to me when he decides to retire half way through next year, or when he gets mad cause the fans boo him.

    Of course, Im sure it wont be his fault, again. It could be the managment.....

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    First of all Thomas would be better than any big man you have except for JO. econd of all he'd be the best back to the basket player. Now on to the leadership thing - the team has leadership, his name is Rick Carlisle, however the elementary school injuries an darguments between players cancels out that leadership. Why trash ur teammates in the media? WHY???? You gor rid of Ron good - i'll take him over any of the other players in your locker room. The Pacers need to stop blaming other things such as the refs, bad calls, or the NBA doesn't like us conspiracy (nto so much the Pacers with that one, but this board). Donnie and Larry need to start from scratch. The one keepable player = Eddie Gill!!!
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    I'm done here.

    I just re-read this thread, and quote of the year for 2007 is right here.

    This man seriously said Artest was the most classy player we had.

    I mean, who doesnt want a guy that skips team meetings, takes his own private jet, and requests time off to work on "his cd". Not even mentioning his constant suspensions.

    Pss, if thats not class then I dont know what is!
    Stop quoting him!
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    Carlisle lost his team because the Pacers play liek a highschool team. Everyone wants to be the star. That is not a coachable team. And are you saying Ediie Gill isn't the one bright spot? Granger is also keepable. NEways...JO is soft! He hits jumpers because he's scared to bang bodies day in and day out. Etan Thomas would help the Pacers tremendously.
    lmao @ your life

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    Ok ok - i'm dumb, I get it! But i know this much u only tied us in this year's series!!!!

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    Perhaps I am the only one that is intrigued by this, but in the Mike Wells article it mentioned that Danny would be working on his dribbling this off season in order to play some shooting guard. Personally I really like this. It gives us the capability to start both Peja and Danny, which is perfect if you ask me. Thoughts??

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=21135
    For those that understand the fundamentals of Basketball......why would increased workouts with dribbling make him a better SG?
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    Ok ok - i'm dumb, I get it! But i know this much u only tied us in this year's series!!!!
    Yeah, and we got swept by the freakin' Hawks. If that doesn't tell you something about your team, nothing will.

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    I dont understand why everyone thinks Danny's boards would dry up if he spent most of his time at SG. At the defensive end it is not vastly different to SF. Bonzi Wells is a great example of a SG being able to rake in huge rebounding numbers.

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    I dont understand why everyone thinks Danny's boards would dry up if he spent most of his time at SG. At the defensive end it is not vastly different to SF. Bonzi Wells is a great example of a SG being able to rake in huge rebounding numbers.
    The problem is Rick's system. He doesn't want guards crashing the boards, he wants them back on D to prevent transition opportunities. That's why you rarely see our shooters follow their shot.
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    I believe 95% of the folks on this forum suffer from tunnel vision when it comes to our SF/SG situation.

    J_2_Da_IzzO has stated exactly what I've been saying for the past 3-4 months. This team needs Danny on the floor and it needs a more consistent SG. We would also like to see someone with better distribution skills as our starting PG, who is able to play defensively even better than AJ.

    It makes a lot of sense to start Danny at SF. But, provided we have a very good defensive PG to complement Danny's defensive efforts at SF, there is absolutely no reason why Peja could not man our SG slot.

    Mourning brings up a point that Peja cannot guard many of the league's SGs. However, when we had Artest, we always allows Ron to guard the opponent's best perimeter scorer. I see no reason why we cannot do the same with Danny... if Peja cannot defend the SG, then switch them out.

    If we have the players available to us to solve our problems, I think we should do it. That makes for fewer players that we need to acquire, and it also means that the players we would really like to trade only have to be traded for 1 or 2 positions, rather than trying to acquire 3 or even 4 starters for next season.

    Go with Peja at 2, Danny at 3, JO at 4 and use Tinsley, Jackson and Saras to get the best PG that we can.

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    Here is my one and only offer.

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Peja Stojakovic
    6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
    18.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 36.7 minutes
    Incoming
    Jarvis Hayes
    6-8 SF from Georgia
    9.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 24.6 minutes
    Etan Thomas
    6-10 PF from Syracuse
    4.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -4.2 ppg, +1.7 rpg, and -0.4 apg.

    Washington Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Jarvis Hayes
    6-8 SF from Georgia
    9.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 1.3 apg in 24.6 minutes
    Etan Thomas
    6-10 PF from Syracuse
    4.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Peja Stojakovic
    6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
    18.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 36.7 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +4.2 ppg, -1.7 rpg, and +0.4 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana and Washington being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Washington had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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