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    LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

    News from USC's pro day, which apparently Pete Carroll is turning into a circus, as well as his #1 recruiting tool:

    LOS ANGELES -- Scheduled to be the guest of honor at Petco Park on Monday, Reggie Bush strongly hinted that the first pitch of the San Diego Padres' 2006 season will be a curveball.

    An interesting choice by the Southern California tailback and Heisman Trophy winner, since he delivered nothing but fastballs during the Trojans' "pro day" workouts Sunday afternoon, a session in which Bush clearly cemented his status as the first overall selection by the Houston Texans in the April 29 draft.



    Working in front of about 150 scouts and personnel officials, a group that included four head coaches and several general managers, Bush was surgically proficient in every drill in which he participated. He posted an eye-opening 40½-inch vertical jump, performed a very solid 24 repetitions on the standard 225-pound bench press, and was clocked in the 40-yard sprint in 4.37-4.41 seconds, according to a few scouts. The electronic times for Bush were a little quicker, in the 4.33-4.37 range.



    In the on-field drills, Bush demonstrated burst out of the backfield. And while there weren't as many balls directed to him as he had hoped during Matt Leinart's throwing session, he caught the ball well.

    "Probably not the absolute perfect day that everybody wants to have at one of these things," Bush told ESPN.com after the nearly four hours of drills. "But I felt good. I feel like I came in here today as the No. 1 guy, and I think I'm leaving the same way. So, in that sense, it's pretty satisfying. Now I can kick back and go to the beach for a few days. For me, well, I think I'm walking out of here a winner for the day."



    Probably not the biggest winner, though, since Bush's draft status wasn't going to change at all based on Sunday's audition. Unless, of course, he fell on his face in every drill.



    Looking for winners? Well, try these two, for openers: The USC machine, already one of the premier football programs in the country, came out looking good. Coach Pete Carroll had 200 potential recruits on campus for the weekend, and the presence of so many NFL scouts certainly didn't hurt him when he delivered his sales pitch to possible future Trojans stars. And the Southern California offensive linemen who are draft eligible, in particular tackle Winston Justice, obviously enhanced their stock.


    "Pete said that he was going to do his 'pro day' bigger and better than anyone has ever done it, and he succeeded in that," acknowledged Houston general manager Charley Casserly. "More and more schools are starting to use this kind of event as a recruiting tool and, if you're a kid considering coming here, how could you not help but be impressed by this?"



    Carolina Panthers coach John Fox termed the scene "a spectacle," and that captures the essence of the buzz that was created on campus, with 1,500-2,000 fans on hand, cheering on the players. Some personnel men did feel the overall scene -- one called it "a zoo" -- was over the top and distracting to players and scouts. By nature, scouts want more control and a sterile environment when auditioning players.



    As for the on-field spectaculars, Justice, who still must resolve some old character issues for scouts before the draft, was the player who inarguably helped himself the most. He checked in at 6-foot-6¼ and 320 pounds, carried his weight well, and performed admirably in every drill.


    In the vertical jump, Justice did 39 inches, an incredible mark for such a big man. He registered 38 "repetitions" in the bench press. Justice pulled up toward the end of the 40-yard drill, clutching his right hamstring, but one AFC scout still said he clocked him at 5.03 seconds.



    In the pass-block drills, Justice, who has the kind of wing span scouts love (34½ inches) in pass protectors, looked very agile and naturally athletic, despite the sore hamstring.



    "Happy with what I did and happy it's over," said Justice, who missed time during his career because of two off-field incidents, one of which included pulling a pellet gun on a USC student. "We'll just have to see where it goes from here."



    Where the talented Justice could be going, according to coaches and scouts, is perhaps into the top 10 in the draft. Fox noted that there are teams that like Justice a little better than they do D'Brickashaw Ferguson of Virginia, the consensus No. 1 tackle in the draft pool.



    "On tape, he's a player, a first-rounder," Fox said. "And that's ultimately what you're looking at when you make the final evaluation. But, yeah, Justice sure jumped out today. He could climb higher [in the first round] now, no doubt."



    Two other offensive linemen, guards Taitusi Lutui and Fred Matua, were also impressive. Lutui looks like a prototype NFL guard, thick and girthy, at 330 pounds, and naturally powerful. Matua, the lesser-celebrated of the two, was 301 pounds Sunday but performed as many "reps" on the bench press as did Lutui (26) and ran considerably faster (5.06-5.33) in the 40.

    As for Leinart? He displayed some athleticism by turning in a 37-inch vertical jump. He completed 36 of 45 passes by unofficial count, with three drops by his receivers. His accuracy was good, not great, and his arm strength was adequate. It appeared, at times, that he aimed the ball a bit too much and some balls sailed on him. Leinart conceded afterwards that he probably pressed a little.



    "In situations like these," Leinart said, "I think you tend to overdo it. You know, you try to throw a ball too hard, and it goes high, or you try to be too fine with your passes. I think I started off too tight."



    Not as tight as LenDale White, the other half of the USC tailback tandem, and the man who holds the school record for touchdowns. Still nursing a sore hamstring he said he sustained at the combine sessions in Indianapolis nearly six weeks ago, White looked soft and performed only in the bench press drill, where he eked out just 15 lifts. He rarely removed his track suit and, when he did, White looked soft. He weighed in at 244 pounds, six pounds heavier than he was at the combine.



    White didn't seem concerned about not being able to work out. "I'm the only true big back in the first round, and people who want the physical runner are going to have to look at me," he said.


    Several personnel directors emphasized, though, that time is running out on White, who has yet to be timed in the 40.


    "At some point, and real soon, he's got to take off that warm-up suit and run," said one of the head coaches on hand. "No one has a 40-time on him and that's not good."
    Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...532&type=story
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      Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

      Are you suggesting we begin fitting him for a mansierre?

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        Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

        Originally posted by McClintic Sphere
        Are you suggesting we begin fitting him for a mansierre?
        MAybe only a jersey. Now Tarik on the other hand might be a possibility.
        You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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          Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

          Originally posted by RWB
          MAybe only a jersey. Now Tarik on the other hand might be a possibility.
          Perhaps Polian came up to LenDale at the Combine and said,"psssst, balloon your weight up a notch or two and don't run the 40. You can be part of one of the top offenses in the NFL."

          And maybe since he already has won a championship in college he won't mind not winning one here.

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            Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

            Seriously, how does a guy at 244 only make 15 reps on that bench? Ridiculous.

            Even a skinny guy like Bush had 24.

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              Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

              Wow

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                Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

                Yeah, I'm saying there's either a reason why we let Edge go, or a reason why the Broncos let Mike Anderson go...

                LenDale is originally from the Denver metro...
                Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team. -- Scottie Pippen

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                  Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

                  Wow. I like his attitude!

                  "Well, I'm the only big back in this draft so somebody is going to want me in the first round."

                  Ron Dayne #2 perhaps. With a work ethic like that, I'm not sure this guy will make it far in the NFL.

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                    Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

                    Another White article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ite/index.html

                    I think the question might now be not "will he be there when we pick?" but instead "do we want this guy?"

                    Note: That article starts negative and then tries to end (somewhat) positive.
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                    All that fiber optic gear / still cannot take away the fear / like an island song

                    - Jimmy Buffett

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                      Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

                      if i were the colts, my draft board would go...

                      1. DeAngelo Williams (doubtful he'll fall back to colts)
                      2. Lawrence Maroney
                      3. Joseph Addai
                      4. LenDale White

                      I'd agree w/ Moses...he resembles Ron Dayne a bit too much for my taste

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                        Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

                        Thursday, April 13, 2006

                        MRI reveals USC's White has torn hamstring


                        The NFL draft's lone highly regarded "big" back may be an even bigger gamble now for any team that selects LenDale White, but at least scouts know the other half of the stellar Southern California tailback tandem had a legitimate reason for not participating in the school's recent pro day auditions.

                        An MRI examination has revealed that White, whose stock has fallen because of his inability to work out for scouts, has a right hamstring tear that will sideline him for about another month and preclude him from running. That means any team selecting White will do so without the benefit of a 40-yard time, typically an important component of the draft evaluation puzzle.

                        White's representatives on Thursday evening confirmed the MRI results, which were initially reported by the Denver Post.

                        "The problem LenDale faced was that he knew something wasn't right [with his hamstring]," said agent Eugene Parker, "but there was still pressure to try to run. But had he run just to satisfy people and torn the thing up again, then things would have been even worse than they are now."

                        How bad things are for White, who bypassed his final season of college eligibility to enter the draft and was projected as a high first-round selection, remains to be seen. Certainly it is a problem for White and for the several teams that coveted him as a first-rounder. Those teams viewed White as the lone power back with a first-round grade.

                        While the MRI result vindicates White, who told ESPN.com two weeks ago that he initially injured the hamstring while performing a Cybex test at the league scouting combine in late February, it still leaves scouts with an incomplete assessment of the former Trojans star.

                        Most teams are reluctant to invest millions of dollars in a player who has not been fully evaluated. Of course, scouts also contend that the true measure of a prospect's ability and potential at the NFL level is his body of work on the field in college and not how well he performs in predraft workouts that occur in shorts and T-shirts.

                        Dr. Randall Eldridge, a Denver-area chiropractor who specializes in treatment of musculoskeletal injuries and who conducted the MRI exam, said that White will recover but will probably be sidelined until mid-May. Under that scenario, White would not only be precluded from doing any more evaluation-type work before the draft but would also probably miss the rookie orientation session or mini-camp weekend of the club that takes him. Eldridge diagnosed the injury as a "moderate" tear near the pelvic region.

                        "I could see where he would have been in considerable pain had he tried to run," Eldridge said.

                        At the USC pro day on April 2, White knelt on one knee for much of the proceedings, dressed in a track suit. He took off the top of the track suit to participate in the bench press, the only drill in which White took part. White managed only 15 repetitions of the standard 225-pound bench press, a performance that was considered disappointing. By comparison, Heisman Trophy teammate Reggie Bush, a much smaller back, did 24 lifts.

                        Almost as concerning to scouts as White's inability to perform at the pro day was his weight of 244 pounds, six pounds heavier than he weighed at the combine. But White suggested that he actually weighed far more, 252 pounds, for the Rose Bowl national championship game against Texas.


                        "I've just got to get right [physically] and then I'll be fine and do everything they want me to do," White said at the time. "But right now I'm not right."


                        White indicated at the time he planned to return to his native Denver, meet with specialists there to gauge the severity of his hamstring problem and then hopefully work out for scouts before the draft. That will not be the case now.


                        In his three college seasons, White carried 541 times for 3,159 yards and 52 touchdowns. He also added 31 receptions for 331 yards and five touchdowns. A strong runner between the tackles and bullish when he got into the secondary, he ran for more than 1,000 yards in both 2004 and 2005 and was a perfect complement to the more elusive Bush.

                        http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...977&type=story

                        Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com

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                          Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

                          That should definitely drop him out of the first round unless someone wants to take a gamble on him.

                          I know for a fact I wouldn't be touching this guy til late second or early 3rd even though he could pan out very well.

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                            Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

                            Remember, when the Colt's drafted Bob Sanders, he was injured. A lot of people were questioning that pick, since he couldn't play for a while.

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                              Re: LenDale White at 244, yet to run 40

                              Originally posted by Moses
                              That should definitely drop him out of the first round unless someone wants to take a gamble on him.

                              I know for a fact I wouldn't be touching this guy til late second or early 3rd even though he could pan out very well.
                              Moses,

                              One thing to remember is that sometimes injuries are made up to help players avoid doing things they don't want to do or can't do the way they might want to do them.

                              Another way of stating this is:

                              Lendale knows how fast he can run the 40 in. And it might flat out be a dull speed. But he feels that he has performed enough at USC that he doesn't need to audition his 40 speed. So why would he want to run it and hurt his draft spot? So, by being injured, he conveniently doesn't have to run it...
                              "Sometimes, when you look Andy in the eyes, you get a feeling somebody else is driving." -- David Letterman

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