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    This was nearly overwhelming at the party. Will be interesting to see the result on a broader scale.

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    Voted yes. Reason is more for a new face, and new direction which is what I believe we need. However as I've said before I'm not opposed to him staying. I just think there will be a mutual resignation this offseason.

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    3 year rule. Too much has happened here. Team has tuned him out. I'm not sure he couldn't come back and coach the Pacers in 5 - 10 years, but right now we're more suited for Bo Hill.
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    I'll repeat what I said at the party. If I become convinced Rick has lost the team, then he needs to go. It is a shame, because he's a great coach. But I'm no convinced yet that he's lost the team, I want to see what happens in the next two weeks. So we'll see

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    I'd like an Indiana guy personally.
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    Just for fairness I did not cast my vote. Diamond Dave voted on my account.

    However, I think I am now at the point where I am ready to have him gone no matter what.

    I just think it's time for a new voice.

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    I voted "no, with changes".

    Rick Carlisle is one of the top coaches in the league. Good coaches are a lot harder to find than a big group of no-heart, no-passion (but talented!) players.

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    He needs to go - he has lost this team and this team needs a motivator.

    Eric Musselman - sure.

    Mark Jackson was a popular name at the party.

    Not sure there is an Indiana guy worth a shot.

    If Majerus would get his stomach stapled I would like him.
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    Default Re: Is it time to say goodbye to Rick Carlisle?

    You already know what I think of Rick

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    I voted "no, with changes".

    Rick Carlisle is one of the top coaches in the league. Good coaches are a lot harder to find than a big group of no-heart, no-passion (but talented!) players.
    You are correct. In all fairness Rick has not had a full roster of players since he has been here. (1st yr. being the lone exception)

    I am all for revamping the roster w/some exceptions (Granger,Foster,Sarunas & Harrison)

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    He needs to go - he has lost this team and this team needs a motivator.

    Eric Musselman - sure.

    Mark Jackson was a popular name at the party.

    Not sure there is an Indiana guy worth a shot.

    If Majerus would get his stomach stapled I would like him.
    You don't think his health could handle it? Stomach stapling isn't as safe as many think it is. As far as Indiana people - sure you raise a good point, not a lot of eligible candidates out there.

    Scott Skiles

    Mark Jackson would be interesting, though no coaching experience. (LB and Isiah still had some front office experience.)

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    But I guess I don't have a lot of thoughts myself on a lot of Indiana guys.
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    Rick is a very good coach in this league. He's had to put up with a lot, and hasn't exactly had the type of consistency or direction with the players that have been handed to him.

    When he actually did have a cohesive unit of guys, we had a 61 win season.

    He's shown that he can change his style and adapt, and I think if we brought in some new players with a clear direction, and Donnie/Larry communicate that direction/vision, then Rick could go do a better job. At least give him the chance with some new players.

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    He's shown that he can change his style and adapt, and I think if we brought in some new players with a clear direction, and Donnie/Larry communicating that direction, then Rick could go do a better job. At least give him the chance with some new players.
    Yup.

    It's up to DW and LB to make some player changes, and not sit on thir hands during the offseason.
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    Rick is a very good coach in this league. He's had to put up with a lot, and hasn't exactly had the type of consistency or direction with the players that have been handed to him.

    When he actually did have a cohesive unit of guys, we had a 61 win season.

    He's shown that he can change his style and adapt, and I think if we brought in some new players with a clear direction, and Donnie/Larry communicating that direction, then Rick could go do a better job. At least give him the chance with some new players.
    One thing I want to say is that I do not think anyone is saying Rick is a bad coach. I think he's a good coach too. But I just think the team needs an overhaul. All the players in the brawl including coach. Just not a healthy situation.
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    All the players in the brawl including coach. Just not a healthy situation.

    I sometimes wonder, what if the brawl never took place, how would things be different right now

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    I think the fans want to turn the page from this version of the Pacers as well - I think Indy is just fed up. Can't remember a Pacers team more disliked - ever - than this one. And we're talking disliked WITHOUT Artest on the squad.
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    Ron would be on the Pacers right now, we would have been in the Finals last year. Jack wouldnt see as hated. Danny Granger wouldnt be a Pacer.

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    I say - "fire Rick" and "make some changes". Where are no sense in firing Rick without making changes. I doubt that anyone could make a team using these players, but i'd like more flexibility at coaching position.
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    Default Re: Is it time to say goodbye to Rick Carlisle?

    Look, even at my most critical, Rick is still a top-10 coach.

    You want to fire him, that's one thing. But firing him in favor of a worse coach would be assinine.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Look, even at my most critical, Rick is still a top-10 coach.

    You want to fire him, that's one thing. But firing him in favor of a worse coach would be assinine.
    If we decide that Rick is the coach we want for this team, then we're going to have to rebuild the team in his image, and with the intent of winning a championship during his tenure here (however long that may be).

    Either way, I don't believe this team can coexist with this coach. Something has to change on one end or the other.

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    If we decide that Rick is the coach we want for this team, then we're going to have to rebuild the team in his image, and with the intent of winning a championship during his tenure here (however long that may be).

    Either way, I don't believe this team can coexist with this coach. Something has to change on one end or the other.
    ....as opposed to reboulding the team in Bo Hill's image? Mark Jackson's image? That makes more sense to you?

    Other than Nelson I dont see one coach out there with better credentials than Carlisle.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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