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    Peck's thread gave me an idea, and really made me miss Baby Al so I thought of this.

    If Peja decides to go on and sign with another team this summer, would you guys mind if we gave the money we would have signed Peja with to Al?

    I for one wouldnt mind it at all, Al can play the 4 and the 3, so if we wanted to we could still start him at the 4, JO at center and start Danny at the 3 and not keep Danny out of the starting line up for a long time.

    Just an idea, I would love to get Peja back but if we lose him getting Al back wouldnt be a bad 2nd option at all. I'm sure he would like to be back in Indy also.

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    If Peja decides to go on and sign with another team this summer, would you guys mind if we gave the money we would have signed Peja with to Al?
    moot point because you CAN'T give Harrington the same money you can give Peja.

    The most you can offer Al is the MLE, and I guarentee you he'll get more than that elsewhere.

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    Ohh yes you are right because of the new CBA, well there you go KStat you just crushed my dreams.

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    Ohh yes you are right because of the new CBA, well there you go KStat you just crushed my dreams.
    It would have been the same with the old CBA anyway.

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    I thought there was some new rule where you get to offer your FA's more money then any other team?

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    I thought there was some new rule where you get to offer your FA's more money then any other team?
    That's not a new rule.

    If you're over the salary cap (which Indaina is), you can't sign anybody else's players for more than the MLE. NBA teams didnt even have the MLE until 2000.

    The fact Al's current team can offer him more money is almost irrelevant, because since Indiana's over the cap, they can't offer Al Harrington what other teams with cap room can to begin with.

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    We could do a sign and trade scenario Jermaniac.

    I doubt Peja would want to go to Atlanta so there would have to be a lot of phone calls and cooperation to make it work.

    And it wouldn't have to be Peja that we re-sign to do the trade. Al could re-sign with Atlanta and we could trade some other Pacer players for him.

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    Send Stephen back to Atlanta. Makes it even better.

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    Somehow I doubt that would work.

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    Let Atlanta re-sign Al and then we can trade JO for him plus whatever else they'll give us.

    Now, I'm crushing Jermaniac's dream.

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    Peja will be resigned. No way will Bird, Walsh, and the Simons allow such a magnificent All-Star talent to leave. The cash will be ponyed up.

    6 years/$72,000,000

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    Then I would have to hate Al by default. Cause if JO ever gets trade who ever we get back I have to hate, thats just how it goes.

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    6 years/$72,000,000
    Sadly, I think the Pacers would actually pay that much for him.

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    HulkSmash,
    Peja has a say in this too. He might want to run from this dysfunctional mess as fast as he can unless he can get some assurances that changes are coming. And even that might not be enough if he'd just prefer to go elsewhere and leave the question marks behind.

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    Then I would have to hate Al by default. Cause if JO ever gets trade who ever we get back I have to hate, thats just how it goes.
    Be prepared to hate someone because I don't think JO's Pacer stock is on the rise.

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    I will bet you 2 dollars JO doesnt get traded

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    bball, Indiana will pay as much as possible to keep Larry Bird's dream boy. Bird will see to that.

    They'll make it worth Peja's while to stay, no matter what his vision of the team is.

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    Sadly, I think the Pacers would actually pay that much for him.
    That's market value for a multi-time All-Star small forward in the prime of his career.

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    That's market value for a multi-time All-Star small forward in the prime of his career.
    I think Peja's worth maybe 9-10 million per season, not 11-12 million.

    The extra 2 million might not seem like a big difference, but it is.

    You better be suere that JO and Peja are your championship 1-2 combo, because they'll both be making 30-35 million combined until the end of the decade, and you won't really have the cash to go after any other big names.

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    I will bet you 2 dollars JO doesnt get traded
    Traded this summer or before his contract runs out? This summer... dunno... Before his contract runs out- I'll take that action.

    JO is not getting any younger and he's not living up to that contract that is only getting more expensive. Eventually, if not a basketball decision, a financial decision will have to be made.

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    I think Peja's worth maybe 9-10 million per season, not 11-12 million.

    The extra 2 million might not seem like a big difference, but it is.

    You better be suere that JO and Peja are your championship 1-2 combo, because they'll both be making 30-35 million combined until the end of the decade, and you won't really have the cash to go after any other big names.
    I think if Peja does get that kind of money from the Pacers it won't mean they see the Peja/JO combo as their championship combo... It'll mean JO is not seen as a piece of that puzzle and the team will start entertaining trade talk. I bet they already are but it'll get more serious.

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    I can't see anybody trading for JO. He makes way too much. I think he's locked in to Indy.

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    I can't see anybody trading for JO.
    A sucker is born everyday.

    He makes way too much.
    You got that right.

    I think he's locked in to Indy.
    Don't be crushing my dreams... Stick to crushing Jermaniac's.

    (If we could trade Jalen, hopefully if JO is needed to be moved we can trade him as well)

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    I think Peja's worth maybe 9-10 million per season, not 11-12 million.

    The extra 2 million might not seem like a big difference, but it is.

    You better be suere that JO and Peja are your championship 1-2 combo, because they'll both be making 30-35 million combined until the end of the decade, and you won't really have the cash to go after any other big names.
    9-10 million is Joe Johnson money. Peja's far more accomplished than Joe Johnson, both individually and team-wise.

    Indiana has no reasonable chance at being under the cap within the next 5-6 years, so your comment about the Pacers not having the cash to go after any other big names because of the $2M~ in salary differential is null.

    If you can get Peja for $9-10,000,000, go for it. But if it takes an average of $2,000,000 more per season to keep him here, then thats just what you'll have to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bball
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    A sucker is born everyday.
    Unless you plan to trade him to the Knicks, you're out of luck.

    There isnt a player available making what JO makes that the Pacers would accept, and they aren't just going to do a salary dump.

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