This is becoming a recurring theme here. We lose & I come on here & say that I have no idea what to do.
I have been saying, for what seems like a hundred times, that you just have to forget these games & move on.
Well, there isn't that much left to move on to. We have 11 games left & frankly we are in no shape to make the playoffs. Don't get me wrong I know we will make the playoffs but as it stands right now that is all we are doing. No team needs to fear us as we are currently playing.
Let's look at this shall we.
Played with fire? Yes or No?
Played solid defense? Yes or No?
Played a well executed offense? Yes or No?
Now let's go one further, how long has it been since you could answer yes to any of the above?
If your like me, it's been awhile.
So I again come asking the following? At what point in time do we say that the Coach has lost the team?
I'm sorry but you can have players have bad games, you can even have several players have many bad games. But when you have a total failure the way we do then it's more systemic than just saying it was a bad game or set of games.
If it was just missing shots then you could chalk that up as just missing some shots but anybody who's watched this team can tell you that it goes a lot deeper than that.
I think Bird, Walsh, whoever has to make a decision & make one quick at the end of this season. They have to either give this coach a new core group of players to deal with or they have to get a new coach.
My preferance at this point would be both. I want a new core group of players & I want to go in a differant direction on the floor as well.
Don't get me wrong I still think Rick is a great coach & not everything is his fault, heck with the circumstances he's been dealt it would be easy to argue that not much of this is his fault. But no matter if it's his fault or not I do not believe the players are responding to him at all anymore.
When you have Kevin Lee, Slick Leonard & Mark Boyle all pointing out on the radio that the team appears to be sleepwalking (they didn't say these words but it was certainly my perception particularly with Lee on the post game show) somebody needs to kick someone in the @ss.
I understood those who said we had to put J.O. & J.T. back in the lineup just to see where we could get with them, I didn't agree with it but I understood.
However I think what we have is that we are clearly pounding round pegs into square holes.
This team has no flow to it at all & yes you can say that some of it is due to lack of practice time because of the heavy schedule & injuries. But guess what, good teams over come these things.
We are not a good team.
I was going to go on & on about what changes I thought should be made, but now is not the time. In the post season you can count on a position by position breakdown but for now I'll try & let it go.
But I now fully stand by my thoughts on this. Rick Carlisle has lost this team.
Can he get them back? I don't know, but he's got 11 games this season to try.
Ok, let's move on.
I make no secerets about this. I have always thought that the Brad Miller for Scot Pollard trade was the worst trade we have ever made in modern times. Yes, I know the Tom Owens trade for the draft pick that could have been for Jordan was worse but we would have picked Sam Bowie as well so who knows.
Again, that is just my opinion so please let's not argue about that here, I'm just using it to referance this next part.
I now fully believe that tradeing away Al Harrington for Steven Jackson was as bad if not maybe worse.
Talent wise it was a fair swap. On the court they produce about the same thing.
However I am now fully convinced that while Uncle Reggie was the inspirational & example leader I believe that Al Harrington was the vocal leader of that team & a player that was respected by both the young guys & the old guard.
Al was a good citizen. I don't care about the "black hole" as many of you labeled him because I wonder what you think when you see Jax doing what he does.
Al was just a good player but more importantly he was a good example of players doing what was asked of them without causing distraction to the team.
When all of the old players were out there with Reggie did you see the one player who didn't fit in that age group? It was baby Al who was there honoring Reggie.
I saw him & then I thought about Ron Artest & I had bile in my throat.
Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying what I'm saying about this trade to down Jackson at all.
I am p!ssed beyond belief that we chose Lucifer to stay on our team & sent Al away.
As the old knight from Indiana Jones & the last Crusade said "He chose poorly".
We chose the shiny jewel encrusted cup when we should have been looking for the cup of a carpenter & in the end our team was decayed into dust.
Al Harrington was no false tough guy either. I have recently read some quotes by our illustrious leader about Udonis Haslem. Ahem, well needless to say the only time I've ever seen Mr. Toughman do anything against anybody was against a Detroit fan who is as fat as me who was on his knees getting up.
Al Harrington never had to speak this kind of crap, if he had to by physical he would.
Why am I going on & on about this? I have no idea, I'm just at a loss.
BTW, to my friends from Europe. Saras got the second loudest ovation of the night (Reggie obviously got the biggest) which should make you guys happy. Because he has won over the fan base for the most part & I think it's fair to say that the majority of fans in there last night feel as though what is going on with him & Carlisle is bogus.
He also hit some good shots & moved the ball along very well. He played defense like every other guard on our team played defense so don't let them B.S. you into beleiveing that his defense was worse than Jamaal's or A.J.'s during this game.
Granger looked good. Harrison looked better than he has of recent but that isn't saying much.
Foster looked very frustrated, I think this season is weighing heavy on him.
Croshere came in & kicked @ss.
Man I wish I had something better to say about this game or this team. I don't beleive for one min. though that this is because of the Artest thing, this team has deeper problems than that.
A question for Mark Boyle, hell I don't even know if he reads my long blatherings, but if for some reason you do let me ask this. Does Slick seem as disgusted with the team as the very few min. I've heard him on the radio? From the few times I've heard him it sounds like he doesn't think much of the group. I know individually he likes the players but as a group it sounds like he's kind of given up on them. Or has he?
BTW, James Jones looked good out there. Second round draft pick in two years for him right?
Well let's end with some fruit.
ahhhhhhhhhh who am I trying to kid?
Late Edit*****
I almost forgot the one really big positive of the night, well besides seeing Dale & Reggie, I got to meet one of my long time idols on the internet. Doug from Ohio & his son were in town & I had the great pleasure of meeting them before tipoff.
Doug informed me that he not only is coming to the party tommorrow but he is going to be able to stay late & hit the Perkins thing with us. Oh God this is wonderfull, if you people thought I was biter about old buggeyes (sorry for Doug's sake I had to throw that out there) wait till you meet Doug. This is going to be fun.
I have been saying, for what seems like a hundred times, that you just have to forget these games & move on.
Well, there isn't that much left to move on to. We have 11 games left & frankly we are in no shape to make the playoffs. Don't get me wrong I know we will make the playoffs but as it stands right now that is all we are doing. No team needs to fear us as we are currently playing.
Let's look at this shall we.
Played with fire? Yes or No?
Played solid defense? Yes or No?
Played a well executed offense? Yes or No?
Now let's go one further, how long has it been since you could answer yes to any of the above?
If your like me, it's been awhile.
So I again come asking the following? At what point in time do we say that the Coach has lost the team?
I'm sorry but you can have players have bad games, you can even have several players have many bad games. But when you have a total failure the way we do then it's more systemic than just saying it was a bad game or set of games.
If it was just missing shots then you could chalk that up as just missing some shots but anybody who's watched this team can tell you that it goes a lot deeper than that.
I think Bird, Walsh, whoever has to make a decision & make one quick at the end of this season. They have to either give this coach a new core group of players to deal with or they have to get a new coach.
My preferance at this point would be both. I want a new core group of players & I want to go in a differant direction on the floor as well.
Don't get me wrong I still think Rick is a great coach & not everything is his fault, heck with the circumstances he's been dealt it would be easy to argue that not much of this is his fault. But no matter if it's his fault or not I do not believe the players are responding to him at all anymore.
When you have Kevin Lee, Slick Leonard & Mark Boyle all pointing out on the radio that the team appears to be sleepwalking (they didn't say these words but it was certainly my perception particularly with Lee on the post game show) somebody needs to kick someone in the @ss.
I understood those who said we had to put J.O. & J.T. back in the lineup just to see where we could get with them, I didn't agree with it but I understood.
However I think what we have is that we are clearly pounding round pegs into square holes.
This team has no flow to it at all & yes you can say that some of it is due to lack of practice time because of the heavy schedule & injuries. But guess what, good teams over come these things.
We are not a good team.
I was going to go on & on about what changes I thought should be made, but now is not the time. In the post season you can count on a position by position breakdown but for now I'll try & let it go.
But I now fully stand by my thoughts on this. Rick Carlisle has lost this team.
Can he get them back? I don't know, but he's got 11 games this season to try.
Ok, let's move on.
I make no secerets about this. I have always thought that the Brad Miller for Scot Pollard trade was the worst trade we have ever made in modern times. Yes, I know the Tom Owens trade for the draft pick that could have been for Jordan was worse but we would have picked Sam Bowie as well so who knows.
Again, that is just my opinion so please let's not argue about that here, I'm just using it to referance this next part.
I now fully believe that tradeing away Al Harrington for Steven Jackson was as bad if not maybe worse.
Talent wise it was a fair swap. On the court they produce about the same thing.
However I am now fully convinced that while Uncle Reggie was the inspirational & example leader I believe that Al Harrington was the vocal leader of that team & a player that was respected by both the young guys & the old guard.
Al was a good citizen. I don't care about the "black hole" as many of you labeled him because I wonder what you think when you see Jax doing what he does.
Al was just a good player but more importantly he was a good example of players doing what was asked of them without causing distraction to the team.
When all of the old players were out there with Reggie did you see the one player who didn't fit in that age group? It was baby Al who was there honoring Reggie.
I saw him & then I thought about Ron Artest & I had bile in my throat.
Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying what I'm saying about this trade to down Jackson at all.
I am p!ssed beyond belief that we chose Lucifer to stay on our team & sent Al away.
As the old knight from Indiana Jones & the last Crusade said "He chose poorly".
We chose the shiny jewel encrusted cup when we should have been looking for the cup of a carpenter & in the end our team was decayed into dust.
Al Harrington was no false tough guy either. I have recently read some quotes by our illustrious leader about Udonis Haslem. Ahem, well needless to say the only time I've ever seen Mr. Toughman do anything against anybody was against a Detroit fan who is as fat as me who was on his knees getting up.
Al Harrington never had to speak this kind of crap, if he had to by physical he would.
Why am I going on & on about this? I have no idea, I'm just at a loss.
BTW, to my friends from Europe. Saras got the second loudest ovation of the night (Reggie obviously got the biggest) which should make you guys happy. Because he has won over the fan base for the most part & I think it's fair to say that the majority of fans in there last night feel as though what is going on with him & Carlisle is bogus.
He also hit some good shots & moved the ball along very well. He played defense like every other guard on our team played defense so don't let them B.S. you into beleiveing that his defense was worse than Jamaal's or A.J.'s during this game.
Granger looked good. Harrison looked better than he has of recent but that isn't saying much.
Foster looked very frustrated, I think this season is weighing heavy on him.
Croshere came in & kicked @ss.
Man I wish I had something better to say about this game or this team. I don't beleive for one min. though that this is because of the Artest thing, this team has deeper problems than that.
A question for Mark Boyle, hell I don't even know if he reads my long blatherings, but if for some reason you do let me ask this. Does Slick seem as disgusted with the team as the very few min. I've heard him on the radio? From the few times I've heard him it sounds like he doesn't think much of the group. I know individually he likes the players but as a group it sounds like he's kind of given up on them. Or has he?
BTW, James Jones looked good out there. Second round draft pick in two years for him right?
Well let's end with some fruit.
ahhhhhhhhhh who am I trying to kid?
Late Edit*****
I almost forgot the one really big positive of the night, well besides seeing Dale & Reggie, I got to meet one of my long time idols on the internet. Doug from Ohio & his son were in town & I had the great pleasure of meeting them before tipoff.
Doug informed me that he not only is coming to the party tommorrow but he is going to be able to stay late & hit the Perkins thing with us. Oh God this is wonderfull, if you people thought I was biter about old buggeyes (sorry for Doug's sake I had to throw that out there) wait till you meet Doug. This is going to be fun.
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